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tommielee
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Is the grass greener some where else for Johnson and his dad? Hope it works out for you, but I believe the NFL would see your film at UGA, as much as Podunk U.
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Max
✭✭✭ Junior
Really disappointing and, at least to me, highly flawed logic from Jermaine's father. First saw Jermaine on Last Chance U and was excited that the number 1 JUCO player was coming to UGA.
Then, went to ND game in Athens last year. Jermaine was in on the last play pressure that caused Irish QB to throw incomplete. Met he and 2 other men he was with after the game. Seemed like maybe an older brother and the father. Really nice people, but father didn't say much. Brother wouldn't stop talking. He was really excited and promised me that Jermaine would help UGA bring in a Natty. Guess it was just talk.
Although he may get more snaps somewhere else , he would have been one of the key leaders if not the ONE next year. I don't know what gives you better NFL credentials than playing on an annually good defense against the best competition in the country and being one of the key players on that defense. I think an NFL team would take a really good UGA defender over someone who racks up a bunch of great plays on a team with less internal competition and likely a weaker competition base. Finally, just like with our running backs, Kirby rotates. It not only creates depth and therefore helps you play better, it also keeps your body from being completely destroyed. I'm sure that, just like running backs, any football player has only so many plays in his body. It seems to me the UGA way of rotating helps a player have a better and longer NFL career due to taking fewer hits in college.
Reconsider Jermaine! Remember Roquan Smith? He's doing OK in the League.
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charliew
✭ Freshman
Noticed some "I don't like rotation" comments.
When CKS arrived one of his first statements was there is little to no difference between UGA and Ala first 22. But a huge difference in the second 22. A team that is going to compete for championships must be deep and able to play full strength for 60 minutes. Rotating running backs and receivers has long been the norm in order to keep fresh legs on the field. Defense is no different. Having players that can come in and you never notice the difference in how the team is playing is a GOOD THING.
Watch the SEC Championship Game and notice which team will have there hands on their hips in the second half. My take is it won't be Alabama and how many championships do they have?
Just one man's opinion. GO DAWGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I don't sweat any player that chooses to leave Athens. The way Kirby and staff recruit, we can use the scholarship space and, especially this year, the room to admit early enrollees!
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Some typical good reasons players go the JUCO route is they had problems with their grades and needed a smaller classroom environment to become successful students, image rehab, and just plain missed by college evaluators. Some junior college players: Cam Newton, Alvin Kamara, Joe Horn, Terrance Cody, Leonard Little, Keyshawn Johnson, Mike Rozier, Nick Fairley, Aaron Rogers, and Josh Heupel. These players may not have become Dawgs, but clearly, Kirby would not be doing his job if he wasn't looking closely at the talent at the JUCO level.
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DallasDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I'm sorry, I just don't believe losing Johnson is going to prove that detrimental to us. And who knows, maybe Olujari's baby brother is planning to transfer out of Baton Rouge, too, and join the Dawgs. But even if not, we've got people who can do what Johnson did for us. Go Dawgs!
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Billy21
✭✭✭✭ Senior
I think everyone has high expectations for next year. With all of these top tier recruits coming in there is going to be a lot of pressure (not that there already is) to win a National Championship. If GA does that, I think player transfers will decline and the program will recruit for itself in the future. I believe I speak for all of us that we are running out of patience, but I wouldn't want anyone else to be HC; maybe need fresh blood with some supporting staff? New rushing schemes?
Whatever it takes!
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Tripp
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Will be interesting to follow his journey next year. Dad is wanting him in the league quick and that is exactly what would have happened if he would have stayed at Georgia. Not saying it won't where ever he goes. Georgia is going to be a top program next year and he was going to play a major part of that. All them snaps his Dad wants may work out for him or may work against him. Maybe Kirby is protecting his weakness on certain downs and situations. Anyway, the more snaps when you are tired the more risk of injury.
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rtparkeriv
✭✭✭ Junior
Something wore Missouri down in the second half Saturday. look at their second half offensive performance. Three first downs, no points. Georgia was fresh. Our guys have a lot less wear and tear on them going “into the League.”
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I think he saw how the Chase Young's and Bosa's got paid, Young had 98 tackles and 21 sacks last year. No one on UGA's DL is even going to approach those numbers. Hard to prove you're worthy of a 1st round pick if you can't stay on the field. Not saying KIrby's method is flawed, not saying it's best for the individual either, it is what it is. But let's be real, David Pollack isn't a legend at UGA and a 1st round draft pick under Kirby's system.
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ftworthdawg
✭✭✭✭ Senior
I figured he'd go pro next season. It sucks to lose him to another program especially when we don't know what Azeez or A Anderson will do. Hopefully, he'll reconsider we need him and like Kirby says he's becoming a leader for us.
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Dawg365
✭✭✭✭ Senior
“Anytime you go through the junior college ranks, you want to get a phenomenal player that can impact your team immediately,”
Have we EVER had a player transfer from JUCO that is a "phenomenal player" that has impacted our team "immediately?" If so, who!?
All do respect to any previous JUCO player(s) on the team or may be on the team in the future (De'Jahn Warren), there is typically a good reason they were at the JUCO level to begin with!
I believe Johnson is making a BIG mistake and I also believe the counsel he is receiving that has led to this decision is suspect, even if it is from his own father. You think it is better to learn an entirely new playbook and prove yourself under new staff with one year of eligibility left? If he is truly as good as he believes he is, then the NFL scouts already have all the film they need to see!
I too wish him the best. I also wish the younger generation would put the team first and trust the truly wise counsel in their life. If coach Smart has proven himself trustworthy, then trust the man when he says you will be best served staying or going.
Proverbs: "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths."
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DJG76
✭✭✭ Junior
I wish Jermaine well. He'll soon discover the stupidity of his move. More snaps, higher potential for injury at a lesser school with less exposure...the NFL is looking for team players not prima donnas.
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1CobbDawg
✭ Freshman
I'd rather have 8 guys 1/2 played than 4 guys fully played in the 4th quarter. The second half defense (with a couple of painful exceptions) has been incredible. The rotation keeps more high quality players able to run all night.
PS - watch rotations in an NFL game... they are very similar set on down, distance, and game time.
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
That's a very good possibility, senseless to transfer during the early signing period when most schools sign the majority of their recruits now. Unless, as you stated, he has been almost guaranteed a starting spot on a different team.
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E_Roc
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I think it's a consequence of recruiting at the same or a better level than those programs without having a recent national title to point to. If/when we get over that hump, I'd expect the transfer numbers to wane (though will never drop to zero).
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GoodLife
✭✭✭ Junior
I wonder if programs like OSU, Clemson, Alabama have the same amount of players opting out into the transfer portal? We seem to have had alot over the past several years.
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EricDawgs1
✭✭✭✭ Senior
The constant rotation is not good for rhythm. Some guys should never come out unless they're tired. But at the same time alot guys get to play. Double edged sword
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I agree, his dad seems to have some bad blood with UGA. He was doing well here...probably not as many snaps as he would like..and that is a personal thing. Hey, it's part of playing college football. They transfer in and out for sometimes no substantive reason. I wish him well and more snaps wherever he lands. UGA has depth.
You will see more of this....!
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WCH
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Jay Johnson's quote "You can’t get to the league without film, and the constant rotation for no reason, that’s not going to do it.”
It looks like dad wants his son to get rich enough to buy cars and houses for the family. Hope he stays injury free for 2021.
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Lowcountry
✭✭✭ Junior
Seems like this kid's dad has some personal issues with CKS. Saw some screenshots of some comments that he made on Facebook that indicates poison in the well. I'm pretty certain that the father is driving this bs... I mean bus.
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E_Roc
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Welp, didn't see that coming. I'm sure wherever he goes, it will be with the stipulation that he gets the lion's share of the snaps; not much sense in transferring a second time - away from a program like Georgia - if you don't have some such assurance.
I'm personally not a big fan of the constant rotation either, but it comes from a very superficial viewer's perspective. I'm sure there's an intelligent debate on its pros and cons to be had. And I'm sure Smart has his reasons, so to me, the "for no reason" remark comes across as kind of snide.
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KBP
✭✭✭✭ Senior
1SicemDawgs1- your post leads me to believe he's already been assured he's at the top of the depth chart at his new school and the transfer portal is just the process. I think he already knows where he's going. Publicly Coaches and Recruiters say you have to compete for playing time and I believe that's true for most players. I do not believe it's true for all. This kid has had big time impact with limited snaps. I can't imagine him going somewhere else to "compete". But what do I know? I'm an insurance man not a coach or recruiter.
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Dogman912
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Georgia has so many guys no one gets a chance to get hot. Where is #, 19 and #4 both 5 stars?.. Recruit the wr position like we do defense
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10DAWG
✭✭✭ Junior
Wow, not sure that's in his best interest, but if he feels like he can improve his stock elsewhere, more power to him.
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KBP
✭✭✭✭ Senior
I don't understand the constant rotation either. As pass rushers in a league that passes as much as the SEC does now, he and Azeez should only come off the field when they're tired. Constant rotation may keep pass rushers fresh but it may also keep them out of rhythm. Why rotate your difference makers just for the sake of rotating them? Keep them on the field at least 75% of the time.
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kylnmeg10
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Well, I understand the "film" part, but he also has to understand wear and tear. So that part makes zero sense. So yeah, go ahead and go somewhere else to play every down. Then you will definitely get passed over for "the league". OLBs are like RBs this day in time with spread offenses. They're used, but not like how they used to be. I hope he does change his mind, but need a better reason than that.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I've wondered myself about the way Kirby rotates guys in and out if that wasn't why we haven't really developed that monster sack type of individual. Roquan was an every down type of guy because of his speed and the position, but when you have guys 3 -4 deep at one position, they only get so many opportunities a game , then you aren't going to have impressive numbers.
Now I'm sure the astute NFL talent evaluators can see past the limited number of reps and therefore stats, but I'm not sure a young athlete can feel good about himself without having the numbers. If I have 12 sacks my senior year going into the draft then I certainly feel much better about my chances than if I had 6 and hoped someone understood I was underutilized.
We may be running back U but I doubt we ever produce a Heisman RB because there will always be someone at another school who gets a boatload of carries.
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BubbaBill
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Bummer, I hope he changes his mind. He’s a great Dawg and we will miss him big time!!! Go Dawgs!!!
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vann
✭✭✭ Junior
I hate to see a great player leave. I thought he was having a great year and I was expecting him to be a stand out for us next year. Maybe he'll have a change of heart. Best of luck and thanks for all you did for UGA. Go Dawgs!
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Best of luck young man. But what happens when you transfer and possibly see the field even less than you did at UGA? A possibility, unless you transfer to florida or a FCS School..GoDAWGS!
