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budknox310
✭✭✭✭ Senior
I somewhat agree about Fields. About fair competition, but he could of flourished in this offense. He would of made the backside defender not crash down on the zone read handoff, or risked getting run by. Because Fromm NEVER kept the ball. Now throwing the ball, maybe not super accurate, but was Fromm? At least Fields would of gave the defense something to think about.
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E_Roc
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There's a lot to unpack with the whole Bobo thing. I do think the play calling and route running have gotten better over the past month or so. The main problem has been execution, and I find it almost comical that some are blaming Coley specifically for Fromm's inability to consistently hit open receivers.
That said, I wouldn't mind seeing Bobo return as OC. I was never among those wanting to see him ousted, and the success of Georgia's offense in his latter years here is hard to deny. I do think there's something to the notion that whoever the OC is, the success of the offense will be inversely proportionate to Smart's micromanaging. And, as others have suggested, it could be that the familiarity and trust level with Bobo would be more conducive to Smart taking more of a hands-off approach.
It's funny to me. Bobo incurred the wrath of fans on a regular basis here. Chaney's offenses controlled games while putting up points and everyone hated him. Now, one year into Coley's tenure as OC and here we are, talking about how much better Chaney was and wanting to bring back Bobo.
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
No doubt the trust between the 2 would be there.Just saying, if they consider each other family as I've seen stated in articles on DAWGNATION, thats usually not a good mix in the work place. There are exceptions, and Bobo could possibly step in, and be a perfect fit. You never know until that opportunity arises.
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budknox310
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Keep Lanning. The defense played well, forget this game. They were put in bad situations when the offense and coach is too blame. 3 plays up the middle and punt, just doesn't get it done. Until CKS can learn to turn over the offense and stay out of it, next year will be the same thing.
1SICemDAWGS1, I said the same thing after the a&m game about Cook. I can see it, unfortunately.
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Jaylittle23
✭✭✭ Junior
Give me a break....Burrows is a Great QB. There is nothing wrong with our Coaches, players, or system. We were short handed at a key position due to injuries. Take Burrow and Tua out of the equation next year in the SEC look around and see who is in the best shape to make a run. If LSU doesn’t have Burrow running that system, it would be very pedestrian offense.....HE is the reason it runs so magnificently. So get over yourselves....you don’t get to dream up every player you want on a sheet of paper with all of your wishes fulfilled....Go Dawgs.... better days ahead!
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I wouldn't be at all shocked to see the name James Cook in the transfer portal. Kid is like Isaiah McKenzie, electric with the ball in the open field..an under utilized explosive weapon that was sorely needed this season.
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RealityBasedDawgFan
✭✭✭ Junior
Just can not get over the fact that your horse finished last and you allowed Secretariat to leave for the OSU stable and headed to a Natty. Jake is Aaron Murray 2.0 and has already reached his zenith.
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
In Fromms own words.." I went out every week 100% ready to play" so if he was injured, it was kept quiet.. Very quiet
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FredBear
✭✭✭ Junior
Florida will be going to the Sugar bowl, not Georgia. After last night they will jump them in the rankings.
Georgia hired Richt 2.0 and are now just starting to realize it.
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
True.. I was referring more to the predictable play calling by both OC's.
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SmartsTheMan
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I want to see the offense improve. It's been needed for 3 years, but many are acting like GA didn't come into this game with the best RB in the nation injured, and without Cager who likely has NFL talent.
Losing Blaylock and Jackson along with Swift being severely limited was a major blow, and just bad luck. LSU came into the game almost 100% healthy. The results match the missing pieces on offense.
Also, those throwing OC Coley under the bus, need to realize what he inherited and what he lost in his receiver room. You can't make steak out of beans. I'm not saying Coley is the answer, just that it's hard to know because of the talent vacuum.
Mike Bobo may be a great fit for OC, but I remember his offense being limited (lost top 2 RB's and top 3-4 receivers) and losing the 2013 Missouri game 41-26. He had a very good QB named Aaron Murray, but he couldn't get it done without the lost starters, either...
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SAVY
✭✭✭ Junior
Bobo would be a homerun. I just don’t see it happening though. I also don’t see Kirby making wholesale changes. But it will be interesting to see how the offseason unfolds.
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latemodelray
✭✭✭ Junior
We need an offensive coordinator with a good system
Bobo is that in spades
Watching LSU it was like playing a UGA offense led by CMR/Bobo and a defense prepared by CKS/ Lanning ….. That's what Bobo could bring to the table
The man over thinks things at times, like 3rd and 1 on the goal line and deciding to throw a pass instead of handing it to Gurley …… Hey he was right everyone was surprised lol it just didn't work …. Overall he has a great offensive system and a few years back he went into AL with an out matched Col ST team and scored 24 points in a loss however that turned out to be the second highest amount AL gave up that year
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Bobo being Kirby's best friend makes him the perfect fit for OC because Kirby will trust him to open the offense without selling out the defense. As the QB coach, Coley has to take responsibility for Fromm's regression. It's not just the receivers. Bobo should be coaching the offense for the bowl game. As much as fans don't like it, any bowl that is not a playoff game is nothing more than an exhibition and the practices are preps for next season. That's just the way it is in playoff era football!
Texas was "back" after last year's win over the Dawgs and the same people on this very same web site that are crucifying Kirby this year were saying the same things last year! Herman was the gold standard; Kirby trash. Texas 7 and 5! UGA 11 and 2. How can so many be so wrong, so often!
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Dallas1862
✭✭ Sophomore
Well that sux buttermilk! They handed us our head on a platter ta say the least.
CKS has some sole searching to do tonight. Clearly he needs to take a hard look at the truth that was the season, not just today. Yes, the team played very well most of the year. Yes, there were/are areas that need addressing. Especially the offense.
I'm not trying to poke a sharp stick into an open wound. But the truth is this team has had issues on offense All year long! Certainly injuries have played a part in things. Guess what. All teams have injuries to deal with. SCjr sure showed us that. But then we got back up an by the FL game we were for the most part happy with the team's performance.
But there always seemed too be something amiss. Fromm was either late on throws or over throwing wide open receivers. Was he hurt or just pressing? I doubt we ever are told the truth about any lingering injury issue.
The O-line. Hell it was being heralded as the best in all of college football. Better even than most NFL teams have. That didn't exactly pan out. Yes, injuries, I know.
On the defensive side of the ball Kirby has assembled one of the great groups anywhere. Baring injuries they could rewrite the record book by the time they are gone.
Post game BA & Jeff postulated on what happened. What did happen? Was it all about today or the season as a whole. Yes. It's a good measure of both. But if we're being honest, it's also about CKS himself. His dogged determination that we are a ground an pound team. Or are we? If the likes of Pickens, Blalock, Robinson etc. are as integral to our success as we say, then the answer is No. If that's true, then stop saying we're RBU. Because that implies we still line up in the I and the fullback belly play is central too what we do. We don't and it's not.
Tomorrow we find out whay bowl an who in it we play. Time for the players who could opt to leave via the draft need too say whether or not they're playing in the bowl. Strike that. If you put on the Red helmet with a black G on the side in week one, then **** it! You better be all in for the bowl!! Too hell with this "I need to asses my draft position" Crap! You weren't assessing your draft position then.
I know we're hurting as a fan base. I know the players are too. Let's see what bowl we get too participate in and Go Win the **** thing! Go Dawgs!!
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Suggestion: Take a look at Saban's and Sweeny's first four years as a HC. Kirby has them both beat by miles! How many other coaches today have gone to a NC game and three conference championships in their first four years? I'll save you some time...Zero! Kirby has some growing and soul searching to do, but anyone else would be a step backwards. A HUGE step!
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WestAshleyDawg
✭✭ Sophomore
James Coley can't be the OC next season. The defense didn't look great today, but maybe Burrows will hang at least 30 on every team in the playoffs. We had a "no name" defense this year, and it was pretty darn good. The offense is a shadow of what it was the last couple of seasons. You can't blame the loss of players to the NFL, because the defense had the same problem.
We need to get a creative OC, and Smart needs to turn over the offense. He's always going to be a defensive coach at heart, and that's fine as long as we have the right OC.
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BoulderDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
Laughing...an argument for the 8 team playoff....If you lose out of the four team playoff any bowl feels like the loser bowl...can anyone see this team getting exicted about playing the Baylor Bears
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rtparkeriv
✭✭✭ Junior
The plays were there tonight, they just weren’t executed. I don’t see how that can be blamed on Coley. Fromm missed open receivers to kill the first two possessions. There was a drop by Simmons during the first possession. And Matt Landers had two drops in one drive, one for a touchdown. Beyond frustrating.
Another commenter said Fromm is hurt. I have thought he either has an injury or some sort of personal problem. Something has caused the regression. Maybe he is trying too hard to guide the ball and not just making natural throws.
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Vetdawg
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question I have:
1) what percentage of scoring drives ended in td’s vs fg’s?
2) what about the havoc rate in games against ranked opponents this yr?
3) percentage of incompletions that we’re from drops?
these are all questions that we as fans are owed answers to. It seems to me our coaching staff is full of crap! We were told they would air it out and spread it around and we saw a starting qb that was below 50% completion rate in the last 3 games! Ladies and gentlemen we are owed better than that!
Also, I never have seen swift as an elite back, he was a great complimentary back to Chubb and Michel. Chubb and Holyfield were the ones getting the tough yards and softening the defense. Swift has finess, but a between the tackles back he is not and we have needed that this yr. do not be surprised if Cook transfers.
We as fans are all really mad right now because we have been sold a ketchup lollipop that gave up in a game when the first drive had 2 drops. I just hope Kirby takes his own advice:
change is inevitable, but progress is optional!
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randyglass14
✭✭✭ Junior
Enough about this tonight's performance....I'm now more concerned about the future. 1) Kirby appears to have little urgency to make a necessary change in offensive philosophy/system - we will continue to lose ground to elite teams (btw-we're not one), 2) Recruiting will take a hit especially with top WR/TEs...we're already seeing it, and it may eventually affect defensive recruits, 3) Our program is now officially trending down. 2020 is a crossroads year and if we don't reverse it, we'll be a 2nd tier team for the next 5 years. Will Kirby be bold, brave and humble enough to make the needed changes?
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Birdie_Num_Num_Dawg
✭ Freshman
Signs of a program in decline
- Smart year 2 - leading NC game late and ultimately losing to Bama in OT
- Smart year 3 - leading SECCG late and ultimately losing to Bama on late score
- Smart year 4 - reaching SEECG and getting blown out by LSU
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Birdie_Num_Num_Dawg
✭ Freshman
So what type of brilliant coaching changes will we see in the offseason? Will we actually see ANY?
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Birdie_Num_Num_Dawg
✭ Freshman
"Get rid of Mark Richt" they said.
"Kirby will win a National Championship within 4 years" they said.
"Kirby coached teams won't get blown out in big games like previous coaches" they said.
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RedPantsDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
Guys, Fromm is hurt. Look at how he is throwing the ball this year vs last. An injury will mess up your mechanics too. I suspect something is going on with his shoulder.
The game was over when Blaylock went out. Simmons, Landers, and Robertson is not the WR crew you want to depend on winning a championship. The defense held as long as it could but the offense couldn't do anything.
2020 starts now. I'm sure some guys won't play in the bowl game and I don't blame them. The window to earn that kind of money is more important than a non-championship bowl game.
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ypcreg
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The result is more or less what I expected. When Mel Tucker and Jim Chaney left, Kirby had an opportunity to significantly upgrade his staff. But he decides to stay put. It worked out OK on the defensive side, but definitely not on the offensive side. The fact that the offense regressed over the course of the season is really disturbing. Entering the fifth year as UGA head coach, Kirby's career is really at a cross road. He is facing the challenge of making good decisions on his assistants as well as some uphill battle on the recruiting trail because of the on field result. Where our program goes from here, we just have to wait and see. I would really hope he makes some "Smart" decision, and would really hate to see a promising start of his UGA coaching career going downhill from here.
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HunkerDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
That's unfair to Schottenheimer. He didn't have a pro quality offensive line and a returning 3rd year starter at QB who had taken the team to the championship.
PLEASE BRING BACK BOBO!!
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kirkhilles
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I think Fromm and Smart should talk. Get Georgia to get him and insurance policy for injuries and commit to finding some WRs at any cost as well as a new OC focused on passing.
I heard 3rd round for awhile and this loss might push him to 4th. Couldn't imagine it'd be best to go Pro finishing like this, but we needs support or he would be better off just heading off.
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Silver_Britches
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Certainly hate the way this game went, but crying about it won't do any good. Still have a quality bowl game to prove how good we are. And to play for pride.
GO DAWGS!
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MontanaDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Mike, I disagree with you completely! This team's 'trajectory' has plateaued and is slipping backwards. Smart's best years may be behind him now. Our offense is a mess and has no identity. Our defense has kept us in a lot of games but was torched today. Coaching is questionable at best and Fromm should NOT be our QB next season even if he decides to return. His best days are behind him too.
Bama and LSU now OWN us.
I'm not sure where this team goes from here, but we MUST evolve from this conservative run-heavy offense to a more dynamic explosive style that emphasizes the passing game.
Evolve or DIE.
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kirkhilles
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Definitely a bad loss and bad luck and execution. Just a fail. Bad enough to where even if we had won to SC, we'd still be out of playoffs after that loss. Now we see how far we drop. I'm worried we might no longer be considered the best non-bowl SEC and might drop below Florida and possibly Auburn and even Bama. Ugh
