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ReddenBlaque
✭ Freshman
"Of course, Williams will likely want to make a decision before Georgia shows off the offense with Newman. That makes things tough to sell to Williams, given he won’t be able to actually see what a player of his skill set might look like in the Georgia offense."
Doesn't this mean that he would also be making the decision before he sees what LSU's offense looks like without Joe Brady in the coaching booth?
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Maybe the most important thing to consider is can the O-line get coached up so that we have a more consistent running attack. If so, then whoever is the QB will be fine. Better receivers, a QB who can take off and pick up a 1st down a few times a game, and a more aggressive running attack and the skies the limit. Too many times we couldn't get a yard when we needed it. LOL!
Not saying we'll be an LSU averaging near 50 a game. But no reason we can't be upper 30's. One thing that drove down the points per game last year was when we got the lead we went into running the clock out mode and taking away the offense, and it certainly made what should of been a couple of easy wins , nail biters.
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Tom1111
✭✭✭ Junior
It would be nice to have an OC who would call plays that would showcase the new qb’s talents.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
reddog & ByrdMan....We talkin' about the same QB...Vand..a...griff? Just askin'.
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ByrdMan
✭✭ Sophomore
No doubt Georgia will either play with Vandergriff or play against him. He has gotten better every year.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Having watched the film on Willams, Vandergriff, and BEck. Willams kid is a force to be reckoned with with the ball in his hands running. Like the best runner on the field type, ala Deshaun Watson or (Jalen Hurts). Threw one pass 66 yards on the money. Shorter kid listed at 6'1" Looks more like 6 ft. but built solid like a RB. Takes one look down field and if he doesn't like what he sees he takes off(at least on the film I saw). Not sure about him going through progressions. Kind of like back yard ball.
Beck appears to be the most college ready pure passer with amazing "touch" on the ball. Knowing when to put something on it and when to take a little off. If he was our best option I wouldn't feel bad about it to be honest.
Vandergriff looked like the best athlete(big kid by comparison) on the field among a pack of private school white kids(little and slow). 2nd best scrambling ability of the 3, not as fluid as a Joe Burrow running. Hard to judge him by the competition he played against. Least impressive of the 3 to me.
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AirmanE
✭✭ Sophomore
No he wasn’t joe burrow was a four star and the number eight dual threat qb in the nation. Where do you guys get this information lol. You could’ve easily looked that up please be better.
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tommielee
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Burrow was a 2 star recruit when he left high school, couldn't see the field at Ohio State, transfers to LSU. First year, had a 9-4 season, then with a new QB coach named Joe Brady, he won the Heisman, he passed for 60 TD's, he ran for 5 TD's, he won the SEC Championship, and to put icing on the cake he won the National Championship. Hollywood should make a movie of this story.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I just read back-up QB Chas Brice of Clemson may or has jumped into the cramped transfer portal. Clemson never started him except for one game and he did fairly well. I believe he is one of those brides maids and never a bride types. Why would UGA be interested?
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Much can transpire twixt the cup and the lip the saying goes. Vandagriff came home so to speak...20 miles from Sanford Stadium....home seems to mean something to the boy....OK was not home. I believe that puts UGA closer to him as a commit. Williams is being heavily courted by LSU...tough to beat. The top program now in the nation. Burrow is gone. But Williams is showing interest in UGA as well....daily messages from the Dawg coaches. I would pursue both and try and commit both...even though UGA said Williams was the only QB for them. Always have options. Kirby's been around...he knows the drill....keep all your options open..much can happen between now and then. Who knows....Carson Beck may be the top signal-caller by then?
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diesel_7
✭✭✭ Junior
Looks like UGA coaches are recruiting out-of-state more & more each year. One of the main points of the UGA job is the location to an incredible in-state rich talent pool. Tennessee built a national championship team in the '90's by recruiting Georgia; Auburn did it in 2010, & Clemson & Alabama have done it several times in the last 6-8 years. ALL of these mentioned teams have done this with GEORGIA HS RECRUITS.
Richt did not consistently recruit Georgia, but when he did he came close to winning it all. Greene & Pollack were from GA (Richt inherited them) early on as well.
Think about it... Deshaun Watson, Trevor Lawrence, Fields, sCam Newton, all came from Georgia.
Answer to your question: Recruit Vandagriff & if Williams isn't afraid of competition, then it shouldn't make much difference to him. History says that UGA would be just fine with an in-state QB.
P.S. Also, don't use the 'expert' recruiting services to build your team, but evaluate them with your own eyes.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I'd lean toward going after the guy with the "it" factor. Who plays the best when the game is on the line. There are loads of QB's coming out of HS who can spin the ball, but who is going to fight to the last second with an undeterred will to won and pull off some magic? Give me that guy.
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Sometimes it's like the people that do the classifications base Dual vs. Pro on skin pigmentation. Burrow was classified as a pro-style coming out of HS by the 247 composite.
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BubbaBill
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I’m sure Brock’s bailing on Oklahoma had to do in a large part with the distance from home, but I’m also confident that Spencer Rattler (Sooner’s pre-season Heisman candidate) only playing in 3 games this past season helped the decision. Rattler has 4 years of eligibility remaining because he was able to redshirt and the other QB (Mordecai) has 3 years left.. Sounds like Oklahoma has a situation like UGA had a year ago so Brock may not have seen the field. Also, I have concerns that Brock has put up great statistics, but he plays in the class 1A (private school) division.....the smallest region in Georgia. On the flipside, Caleb plays for Gonzaga HS in Washington DC which is a big time program. With this said, our buddy Herschel Walker played for a small HS and the last time I looked he did pretty well in college. My vote is to recruit both and take the first one to show us the love and commit. Go Dawgs!!!
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BoulderDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
I will say that I liked that tweet that Vandagriff put out.....no talking about how great OU was and how he was devastated to be de-committing...No talk about how he had hours of one on one talks with god about his decision....Just a simple statement
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Dawg365
✭✭✭✭ Senior
The modern college QB must be mobile, not necessarily a Dual Threat. If we take another high profile QB in 2021, one or two of the QBs currently on scholarship will enter the portal-guaranteed.
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kylnmeg10
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
This could go either way for me. If we pursue Williams, we could open up the offense more for a dual threat type. Like qb runs, more actual RPO, design roll outs, etc. If we pursue vandagriff, we could go to more spread and take bigger shots down field while he stands in the pocket. And runs/scrambles when he has to avoid pressure. But that's where kirby needs to figure out the real path he wants uga to go. Also with vandagriff, kirby could go back to "locking down the state", or trying to at least.
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dawgfan623
✭✭✭ Junior
Did you watch any of his tape? He moves like Burrow of LSU did. Tell me how that isn't enough?
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dawgfan623
✭✭✭ Junior
People need to go watch his film. He moves like Burrow. He is no statue back there like Fromm was. He moves and avoids pressure extremely well and can run it too. Either would be a great fit for UGA and either would allow for the QB to be a part of the RPO game running the football.
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BoulderDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
Williams of course......dual is the future....Let's make our best case and see what happens........of course take a look at Vandagriff but I don't think he would be a good fit...I still say give Beck the benefit of the doubt and let him compete for the job....that said his senior season really raised a lot of eyebrows
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Ugagolf80
✭✭✭ Junior
Smart has to recruit all the best players at every position, QB included. You can't assume the top choice will come to UGA. You have to have more than one guy targeted in case your top choice goes elsewhere. Smart knows this. We'll be fine.
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1SICemDAWGS1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Seems Carson Beck is being overlooked.. Not quite as talented as Williams, or Vandagriff, but the young man was talented enough to gain a scholarship at UGA..GoDAWGS!
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Tripp
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Watched a considerable amount of video on both. Talent wise I don’t think Georgia could go wrong with either. Vandergriff labeled as a pro style qb is a little confusing because he is definitely a threat to do either very well. One of these guys is a slight more proficient passer and the other is a little better runner. Hard to determine their pre snap read capability but I think Georgia should offer both equally and whichever one commits to Georgia first be done with it.
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maconexpress
✭✭✭ Junior
Brock Vandagriff rush for 1001 yards during his sophomore season but they have him as a pro style qb? He moves around in the pocket like Joe Burrow.
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ShoottheHooch
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Elite QBs are the foundations of elite recruiting classes. I'm for whichever is the most accurate passer that can escape trouble and get the ball downfield, a la Burrow. There will be no shortage of runners at RBU. The main thing is for one of these guys to commit and help start building the class.
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