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Defins
Posts: 29 ✭✭✭ Junior
BS. The penalty was marked off. Ball was put down. Players were lined up, then came the bottles..Before the bottles,NO refs were getting together to talk about play.
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BigDawg61
Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
To beat a cheat....you have to annihilate them...not, just beat em.
You have to make the victory so obvious & complete...that it would be impossible to win, with a few blown calls or a blind eye being turned to the opposition's effort to cheat...or adding/subtracting yards on virtually, every spot.
You can see these shenanigans going on, all the top weekly games...if you know what to look for.
And, let me just state....the cheating was far more obvious with the Texas Game, than it was with the OSU game, in the Orange Bowl?, in '22.
Kirby put the world on notice, in 2021....Ya can't get away with it, anymore...not with the Georgia Bulldogs. They ARE much better than most people are aware.
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Makdawg
Posts: 34 ✭✭ Sophomore
Texas got killed and the score did not accurately reflect what happened that night ....cheating bs ...fu tx...we will beat you 3 times
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BigDawg61
Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Lol....hell, I agree. It's more "investigative reporting" than we've seen from any of the Media giants. Guess they're too busy scanning Twitter for a majority opinion.
It's simple....if your team is out of timeouts, when a critical call, is blown...and, you are home team,....It's Fan'trum time. Give the officials time to come up with an out....by allowing everybody, to watch the blown call over and over on the Jumbo-tron and smartphones.
Somehow, knowing the call was blown, should make it easier for Fans to digest. Right!? BS....Lol.
It doesn't help to have every Booth announcer and expert, acting like the play was under review....rather than reporting that coaches, players, cheerleaders & sideline personnel were under attack by a barrage of debris "coming from the student section". That seemed to be a secondary consideration. FAILURE.
They think THAT justifies changing the call. And, that is the true FAILURE, cause it ensures it will happen again. Maybe worse, next time.
Who answers for that failure to act, when somebody loses a life or winds up in a Coma? Who cares? I haven't heard much from the people that should care the most. Why Not?
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CTD
Posts: 180 ✭✭✭ Junior
Shaw….just another bureaucratic answer which is a nice way of saying a Kamala Harris Word Salad Parody
Mumbo…..Jumbo!
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SufferinginAtlanta
Posts: 184 ✭✭✭ Junior
In other words, Kirby Smart nailed it when he said they just set a new precedent for fans to follow. Throw things, delay game, get call overturned, can't be penalized.
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BrettGarr
Posts: 153 ✭✭✭ Junior
Steve Shaw should be a politician, because that was about the most idiotic non-answer I think I've ever read. And to go out of his way to say he wasn't speaking specifically about the call we're all concerned about — well, politician.
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Beachwagon
Posts: 772 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
This is BS. The review had already been announced and the ball placed for play when all the spoiled UT snowflakes started throwing their bottles onto the field. The chief official is Texas through and through and his son is a UT graduate. Why did the SEC allow this guy who turned out to be really biased to referee the UT-UGA game? It seems that eveyone including the SEC and ESPN had already decided that UT would win the game and take Georgia's place as the nation's premier team. Thankfully, we have the best coach in college football and he didn't allow it. Everything he said was true; he was courageous to be so candid and forthright. My fear now is that UGA will be "punished" the rest of the year by the officiating teams. I do not trust them at. all these days…
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UGADawg
Posts: 140 ✭✭✭ Junior
yes a call can be changed anytime before the next play and there’s no time limit blah blah blah BUT no one went to the calling official and said I saw this ….THE CALL WAS ANNOUNCED. Then, the delay (caused by trash throwing trash) allowed the refs to see the replay and changed their minds. Please don’t try to change the truth. We are not ****. Enough BS. Let’s man up and tell the truth.
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jrmdvm1
Posts: 155 ✭✭✭ Junior
I posted this comment on YouTube video:
2024 NCAA Football Rules, Rule 10, Article 1, Section c: says "c. When a foul is committed, the penalty shall be completed before the ball is declared ready for play for any ensuing down". Video clearly shows the ball placed on the yard line of the spot of the foul. I don't have access to video of the officials spotting the ball, but checking times shows that the tackling of the intercepting DB stops the clock at 3:00 minutes left in the 3rd quarter. Later in the broadcast ( during the throwing of the bottles), the clock is down to 2:40, and then is at 2:48 when Texas has 1st and Goal at the 9 yard line. This indicates that the clock was started which would not happen unless the ball was declared ready for play following the penalty spot. Thus, according to the rule above, the penalty was completed, and cannot be changed. Bad call or not, that is the rule. Though I couldn't find it in the rules (yet), I am sure that the throwing of objects on the field can carry either a "delay of game" or "unsportsmanlike conduct" penalty. Though not in the rules, the only fair thing to both teams would have been to replay the previous down, after assessing either a 5 yard delay of game or a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty. And, like Kirk Herbstreit, if the PI "didn't happen" then I want to know why the official threw the flag in the first place. And, the "discussion" among the officials should have happened BEFORE the penalty was announced on the PA system. Actual events indicate that the penalty was completed, and therefore could not be removed. And in case you didn't figure it out, I am a UGA fan.
Notice that the rule does NOT refer to the next snap, but , rather "before the ball is declared ready for play for any ensuing down". The penalty was assessed, the ball was placed, and the game clock was started as the drinks started. Check the video of the time when the objects were being littered onto the field. Notice the timeline in my post.
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FishingDawg
Posts: 66 ✭✭✭ Junior
No review after a delay of game. No changes after a delay. A delay = everything (fan disruptions, injury, etc.).
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JBMDawg46
Posts: 944 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Here’s my response to Shaw: BS!!! I have never seen a non-reviewable call reversed after the penalty is announced, marked off, the ball placed, and ball indicated to be in play. What’s wrong with these people? Can’t they simply say “We blew it.” The more they attempt to tell us nothing wrong was done the more we know they’re not being honest.
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BigDawg61
Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Right?! That's why teams have to call timeout or throw the Red Flag [if they have one]....to give officials time to reconsider the call.
That didn't happen. The Fans called a timeout, instead.
Therefore....everything that took place in the official's huddle after play was stopped....was inadmissible evidence and should not have been considered.
THAT...in and of itself, is a Rule Violation. But...they did it anyway, cause they were afraid. They can go ahead and admit it...we all know. Lol
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BigDawg61
Posts: 3,629 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
"Shaw made it clear he was not speaking specifically to the situation at Texas -- the SEC issued a statement -- but his explanation of rules provides clarity on why things unfolded the way they did."_____DawgNation
If he's not speaking to this particular...[unprecedented situation].....THEN....his words don't matter. I could've told you everything Shaw said...in fewer words. But....when blowing smoke, it works better, with more words than necessary. Lol
The question people should be asking, is....
If not for the fans throwing projectiles on the field and at various individuals.......Would the ball have been snapped BEFORE the change was even considered? I say, YESSIR!
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railroadtrack1
Posts: 297 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
Shaw is a bama grad, and is the biggest reason why bama has had all of the game winning calls or no calls, as it may be in UGA's recent championship losses to bama. I have absolutely NO use for anything he has to say on the matter.
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GoodOlDawg
Posts: 862 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
"Fans proceeded to litter the field and cause a delay, after which, officials announced that “after discussion” there was no pass interference and Texas would get the ball at the UGA 9."
Even if it was "after discussion", it was also after the replay had been shown on the video board. The option to reverse the call should expire on a non-reviewable call once the replay has been shown regardless of it being prior to the next snap.
GO DAWGS!
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1SICemDAWGS1
Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
The question to the problem is still not answered, only gives a blanket statement covering every offense. That would be fine, if all situations that arise are due to the same mistake..
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osmosiphobe
Posts: 710 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Garbage, backtracking, and gaslighting…
As long as it's "before the next snap…" Sure. Ok. Except the next snap in our case was about to go off and those officials were done with any conversations. NOOOObody was trying to talk about the call until after it started raining bottles.
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WoodstockDawg
Posts: 301 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
Circling the wagons! Would have more respect if a mistake was acknowledged and a statement we need to develop a way to effectively deal with this moving forward to prevent future incidents that affect player safety.
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flemingislanddawg
Posts: 673 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Obviously the refs used a replay when they shouldn't have. Obviously the refs and talked it over and had nothing more to give because the ball was spotted. Due to the babies throwing their bottles the refs watched the replay of a non-reviewable call.
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MobileDawg
Posts: 354 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
Of course no one is going to admit any wrong doing. It seems the Dawgs have been getting the shaft from the SEC for years, from the lost home game with Auburn to accommodate other's schedules, losing the quality game with Oklahoma, to the blatant questionable calls at Texas. Would a game and win against OU possibly have put the Dawgs in CFP last year?
The Dawgs need to play the rest of the year with the same chip on their shoulder they played with at Texas!
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rambo
Posts: 30 ✭✭ Sophomore
As I stated in another forum, $250K is "chicken feed" to a well-funded program such as Texas and well worth the investment if the home team benefits in any way from a delay of game action. The officials have discretion in many areas so to determine the home team fans are actively working to delay the game should absolutely be grounds for a penalty on the home team. I feel confident that the implied threat of penalty greatly motivated Texas' coach, team, cheerleaders, etc to clean up the field and plead with the fans to stop.
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ShoottheHooch
Posts: 1,627 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Shaw offered up a big smelly crock! I suppose technically he is correct that the reversal was made before the next snap.; however, the ball had been placed down ready for play and UGA was at the line ready to snap the ball when the officials stopped play due to **** people throwing trash.
I can’t wrap my mind around that in football the SEC has the best of everything: the teams, the fans, the coaches, the quality of play, the venues, and on and on, but the worst officials that should be dressed in clown outfits rather than striped shirts!
