There goes Herschel

CroatiadawgCroatiadawg Posts: 32 ✭✭ Sophomore

"If you want to work you gotta do what your boss says, otherwise you don't work."

Can't argue with that.

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  • VaBeachDawgVaBeachDawg Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    NFL kneel-gate has been covered from a political perspective. And when you put anything in the American media through a political lens...

    It was highly refreshing seeing someone instead just talk about it from a common sense perspective.

  • BamaDawgBamaDawg Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Herschel is da man... keep ot simple.

  • BojanglesInsiderBojanglesInsider Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    My favorite part of these “controversies” are the people who sit their and watch the news report on them and think they’re being educated. It’s not sad at all...

    The day I go postal, that’s probably what’s gonna be the thing that sets me off. Some jackass on television putting on a face like he’s educating people, When he has to know **** good and well he’s just titiallating them.

  • VaBeachDawgVaBeachDawg Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    My favorite part of these “controversies” are the people who sit their and watch the news report on them and think they’re being educated. It’s not sad at all...

    The day I go postal, that’s probably what’s gonna be the thing that sets me off. Some jackass on television putting on a face like he’s educating people, When he has to know **** good and well he’s just titiallating them.

    This is a very concerning comment to me, because the very situation you are describing happens literally every day. Have you watch late night TV lately? It’s pretty egregious.

  • VaBeachDawgVaBeachDawg Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @levander said:

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    The day I go postal

    Oh god that’s it. I’m done for a while. That made my day.

  • BojanglesInsiderBojanglesInsider Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 6

    @VaBeachDawg said:

    @levander said:

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    My favorite part of these “controversies” are the people who sit their and watch the news report on them and think they’re being educated. It’s not sad at all...

    The day I go postal, that’s probably what’s gonna be the thing that sets me off. Some jackass on television putting on a face like he’s educating people, When he has to know **** good and well he’s just titiallating them.

    This is a very concerning comment to me, because the very situation you are describing happens literally every day. Have you watch late night TV lately? It’s pretty egregious.

    Like trotting out a porn star on SNL as the new premier cultural icon? Yeah that's fricking retarded. It'll be a cold day in hell before I take what a literal whor3 says seriously.

  • shhmittyshhmitty Posts: 182 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @levander said:

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    The day I go postal

    Hahahaha!!!

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited May 7

    @Croatiadawg said:
    "If you want to work you gotta do what your boss says, otherwise you don't work."

    Can't argue with that.

    While that's true... the boss actually needs to say what he wants.

    The NFL isn't saying that players can't do the whole "kneel for the flag" thing. Almost none of the teams are either. They're not willing to take the step to actually say that... they're just hinting.

    If a boss isn't willing to make a statement on the issue, it's hard to blame an employee (or potential employee) from not doing what the boss says.

    NBA players (who in general are much more blatant in their social activism) have a rule to stand for the anthem... and they all do. The NFL doesn't have a rule and most team owners haven't required their players to. It's one thing to say "you have to do this". It's another to ask "are you going to do this?" and then not hiring/firing someone because they do it. The NFL has been mostly doing the later.

    You want to ban kneeling for your team... then ban it. Take whatever public outcry (or support) comes from that action. What they're doing now is kind of weak and pathetic. I'm sure if Herschel ran the team he'd flat out tell the players what is expected. But that just isn't what NFL owners are doing.

  • MarkBoknechtMarkBoknecht Posts: 356 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @levander said:
    NFL kneel-gate has been covered from a political perspective. And when you put anything in the American media through a political lens...

    It was highly refreshing seeing someone instead just talk about it from a common sense perspective.

    Everything is political, even so called "news" prograrms. I wonder how many viewers even realize news is prepared in advance and read off of a teleprompter? Even political shows. Think those comments by G. Stephanopoulos are sincere or genuine? Nah. Prepared in advance (maybe with his contributions) and read from a teleprompter.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @Croatiadawg said:
    "If you want to work you gotta do what your boss says, otherwise you don't work."

    Can't argue with that.

    While that's true... the boss actually needs to say what he wants.

    The NFL isn't saying that players can't do the whole "kneel for the flag" thing. Almost none of the teams are either. They're not willing to take the step to actually say that... they're just hinting.

    If a boss isn't willing to make a statement on the issue, it's hard to blame an employee (or potential employee) from not doing what the boss says.

    NBA players (who in general are much more blatant in their social activism) have a rule to stand for the anthem... and they all do. The NFL doesn't have a rule and most team owners haven't required their players to. It's one thing to say "you have to do this". It's another to ask "are you going to do this?" and then not hiring/firing someone because they do it. The NFL has been mostly doing the later.

    You want to ban kneeling for your team... then ban it. Take whatever public outcry (or support) comes from that action. What they're doing now is kind of weak and pathetic. I'm sure if Herschel ran the team he'd flat out tell the players what is expected. But that just isn't what NFL owners are doing.

    That is an excellent example of how everything political gets obfuscated by the news media. I could completely see Don Lemon saying something exactly like that.

    Can you do how a conservative news channel, like FOX, would cover the story? Or do you just do satires of how liberals cover the news?

  • Mickey_HandMickey_Hand Posts: 463 ✭✭✭ Junior

    An Alabama sportswriter named Clint Lamb characterized Herschel’s remarks as a “strong statement to Colin Kaepernick”, when in fact he was just giving the reason why Kaepernick was able to keep doing it: “I own a chicken company,” Walker says in the interview. “If the guy that I hire don’t want to do what I ask him to do, why do I hire him? And I think that’s the problem right there.”

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Not sure why you think the "news media" has anything to do with the comment. Until the boss says "stand for the anthem"... I don't blame players who choose not to stand for the anthem. You do have to do what the boss wants... but he does have to tell you.

    If my work doesn't have a "no eating at your desk policy"... I should be allowed to eat at my desk. If they start the policy... I'll stop. It's not complicated.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @Croatiadawg said:
    "If you want to work you gotta do what your boss says, otherwise you don't work."

    Can't argue with that.

    While that's true... the boss actually needs to say what he wants.

    The NFL isn't saying that players can't do the whole "kneel for the flag" thing. Almost none of the teams are either. They're not willing to take the step to actually say that... they're just hinting.

    If a boss isn't willing to make a statement on the issue, it's hard to blame an employee (or potential employee) from not doing what the boss says.

    NBA players (who in general are much more blatant in their social activism) have a rule to stand for the anthem... and they all do. The NFL doesn't have a rule and most team owners haven't required their players to. It's one thing to say "you have to do this". It's another to ask "are you going to do this?" and then not hiring/firing someone because they do it. The NFL has been mostly doing the later.

    You want to ban kneeling for your team... then ban it. Take whatever public outcry (or support) comes from that action. What they're doing now is kind of weak and pathetic. I'm sure if Herschel ran the team he'd flat out tell the players what is expected. But that just isn't what NFL owners are doing.

    Goddell has failed to provide guidance for some reason. He enforces strict punishment on players for not pulling their socks up or wearing unapproved shoes...but he is OK with guys in full company uniform demonstrating during a game. When he forbid the Cowboys from wearing a Dallas Police sticker on their helmet after those officers were killed...that's when I he lost me. I will not support the NFL until Goddell is gone. He is consistently on the wrong side of issues.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

  • VaBeachDawgVaBeachDawg Posts: 915 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    Clearly you’ve never met my wife.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I can't argue about the rules of THAT boss.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    Because he is bad for business. Nobody wants to hire him because they don't have to. That's how it works here. You do not have a right to work. Nobody has to hire you, regardless of your qualifications. If you are someone, who by professional reputation is a known problem, you are going to have difficulty getting work. No NFL team is obligated to hire him. He would automatically kill the profitability of that team simply because customers do not like him. He hasn't done anything illegal or against the rules...he's just an unlikable person. And in the entertainment industry that is a killer.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    The lawsuit is ongoing. They've deposed several teams and will be deposing Roger Goodell shortly.

  • DawginSCDawginSC Posts: 282 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @pgjackson said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    Because he is bad for business. Nobody wants to hire him because they don't have to. That's how it works here. You do not have a right to work. Nobody has to hire you, regardless of your qualifications. If you are someone, who by professional reputation is a known problem, you are going to have difficulty getting work. No NFL team is obligated to hire him. He would automatically kill the profitability of that team simply because customers do not like him. He hasn't done anything illegal or against the rules...he's just an unlikable person. And in the entertainment industry that is a killer.

    As long as the owners (who despite all being part of the NFL are in fact individual businesses competing with each other) did not leave any evidence of colluding to keep anyone from hiring Kaepernick, they're good. If his lawyers find any evidence of the league or individual teams talking with each other about not hiring Kaepernick, they're toast.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 190 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @DawginSC said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    Because he is bad for business. Nobody wants to hire him because they don't have to. That's how it works here. You do not have a right to work. Nobody has to hire you, regardless of your qualifications. If you are someone, who by professional reputation is a known problem, you are going to have difficulty getting work. No NFL team is obligated to hire him. He would automatically kill the profitability of that team simply because customers do not like him. He hasn't done anything illegal or against the rules...he's just an unlikable person. And in the entertainment industry that is a killer.

    As long as the owners (who despite all being part of the NFL are in fact individual businesses competing with each other) did not leave any evidence of colluding to keep anyone from hiring Kaepernick, they're good. If his lawyers find any evidence of the league or individual teams talking with each other about not hiring Kaepernick, they're toast.

    what he said....and as long as winning makes teams $ (and in a world where being popular is worth more $ than winning this theory may be flawed) but if winning still = the most $...then talent > sins (or perceived sins by public)....also the definition of news is constantly up in the air no matter what team your on....news now is finding a person that has a large social media following and asking them gotcha questions until you can corner them into a polarizing answer...then blast out that sound bite...then ask other people who have large social media followings to respond to said sound bite...for or against ....then... blast that out with words like "destroyed" and "owned"...thats the news now.....instead of people telling us stuff that happened its kinda like pro wrestling.

  • pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 2,598 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @pgjackson said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    Because he is bad for business. Nobody wants to hire him because they don't have to. That's how it works here. You do not have a right to work. Nobody has to hire you, regardless of your qualifications. If you are someone, who by professional reputation is a known problem, you are going to have difficulty getting work. No NFL team is obligated to hire him. He would automatically kill the profitability of that team simply because customers do not like him. He hasn't done anything illegal or against the rules...he's just an unlikable person. And in the entertainment industry that is a killer.

    As long as the owners (who despite all being part of the NFL are in fact individual businesses competing with each other) did not leave any evidence of colluding to keep anyone from hiring Kaepernick, they're good. If his lawyers find any evidence of the league or individual teams talking with each other about not hiring Kaepernick, they're toast.

    Correct, if there is evidence the individual teams got together and blackballed the guy he would have a case. However, that wouldn't make sense. Teams make money by putting butts-in-seats. Kap makes people stay away. Hiring him would be catastrophic to any team that brings him on. The goal of every NFL team owner is to make money, plain and simple. It's a business venture no different than owning a concrete company, a chain of golf courses or an airline. If one employee is so polarizing that it turns customers away and effects the bottom line....well, he's gone no matter how good he is at his job.

  • levanderlevander Posts: 2,867 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:

    @DawginSC said:

    @levander said:
    @DawginSC I will give you a hint. Nobody has said Kapernick isn’t on an NFL roster because he lacks the talent.

    Yes, and nobody has said he's not on a roster because he's broken a stated rule of any team.

    Herschel is right... if you want a job you do have to do what your boss tells you. But the boss has to actually tell you. The NFL teams aren't doing that... because they don't want to admit to the public that they're requiring their players to stand for the anthem for some reason.

    The last sentence you got right.

    The second to last sentence you got wrong.

    As someone who has dealt with wrongful termination lawsuits before... I can tell you that you're incorrect. If you fire someone for cause and that cause is not communicated... you'll lose any wrongful termination suit. The boss is the boss, but the employee isn't required to read his mind. He actually needs to communicate what he wants. The teams aren't creating policies about this. They could easily. the Yankees didn't allow players to have facial hair forever. The Falcons could require players to stand for the anthem.

    Until they do that... the players are fine not standing. You have to do what the boss says... but he does have to say it.

    So then why isn’t Kaoernick on an NFL roster? And why hasn’t he won a successful lawsuit against the NFL.?

    The lawsuit is ongoing. They've deposed several teams and will be deposing Roger Goodell shortly.

    The lawsuit isn’t about not being told he had to stand for the flag. They couldn’t make it that simple. Which apparently you knew, because you’re talking about it being about collusion later in the thread. You’re trying to find a backwards way to wedge legal arguments to make it sound like what Hershel said doesn’t make sense. Much like the American news media does consistently with their political coverage. You’re either Andy Kaufman who never comes out of character no matter how badly his gag fails. Or you’ve just been doing this lawyering stuff way too long and have decided you don’t need to look at things in common sense terms any more.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 4,888 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @BojanglesInsider said:

    @VaBeachDawg said:
    If you take a certain polarizing figure and a certain professional football organization out of the it and look at it from a random person wanting a random job, what he said made an astonishing amount of sense.

    Truth, but if it were laid out that simply then it wouldn't be a controversy. Everything has to be a controversy nowadays so that just wouldn't do.

    Well, there is a whole other side of the work equation, the men and women doing the work.
    This region has gradually lost it's mind when it comes to the proper balance between worker and employee.

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