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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I think you are spot on with your comments!
Also, playing into the ruse was that if they put BAMA in, (which they were always going to do if they beat us) then how do they justify leaving Texas out who beat Bama? So, IMHO, to save face, and not have to listen to the moaning and ridicule, they put Texas in and dropped FSU and UGA.
Of course they could have argued that UGA was #1 for virtually all season and a 3 point loss in a SECC game to a better BAMA team that played Texas on September 9, with a new QB shouldn't drop UGA all the way out of the picture. But that wasn't what they wanted. Texas lost to Oklahoma and we lost to the team you are putting into the playoffs. Which is the better loss? Duh! But obviously the Committee got the matchups they wanted, and they don't have to try to reason anything out and give in depth answers.
We all know how hard it is to beat a good team twice and it would have been hard for BAMA to beat us again with our receivers given what amounts to almost a month to heal up. Michigan wouldn't have beaten us and Washington either, it would have been a UGA-BAMA repeat and us taking a 3rd straight NC.
Seems like they would have wanted to give us the chance, but the end result wil be more parity like the NFL and more people can root for their team. I suppose UGA and BAMA one more time was just too much for them.
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riddleville
✭ Freshman
Fav comment: this is "Invitational" not Playoff. Saw it since beginning when "experts" pushing PAC12 as most exciting conference. Does anyone believe their QBs would have same stats if playing SEC defenses all year?? Reluctantly experts forced to keep GA #1 most of year & FSU #4. Last narrative was "what if bama beats GA?" ad nauseum using power of suggestion or leaking their plan or simply needing chaos to perpetrate their plan (SEC refs?) to justify keepin FSU out - im sur players & fans got sick of hearing this constantly. My theory "UGA fatigue w/ 3 yr dominance and desire to have 4 new teams n last 4-team playoff, i mean invitational". They couldnt keep GA out w/o keeping FSU out and visa-versa, as if to say "see GA, we're screwing FSU too", "see FSU, we're screwin GA too". As a 68 yo Dawg Momma, how dare these full grown adults abuse mentally/emotionally these student athletes at GA & FSU. LASTLY, even tho i like Milroe, bc of Jermaine Burton's classless f.u. gesture to GA fans, ill b rooting for the other SEC team TEXAS!!!
Dawg Momma
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navydawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Bravo !! Bravo !! Well Said !! Very Well Said !! On that Bogus horse collar Gene Santorie a retired Chief Review Official said it was Very Ify and probably shouldn’t have been called !!
I would Never complain about Injuries alone and on their own merit. But when you Couple injuries with the Unfair and Very Biased officiating it was just to much for our Dawgs to over come. Bama had only One Key player injured coming into the game. And to their credit they were a very improved team. They shouldn’t have got help from the Refs, but they Did !!
And as you did a great job of stating this has happened over and over playing Bama. So one can’t help but wonder is there $$$ involved ?? It’s a natural question because just how far does “ coincidence” stretch ??
We were cheated plain and simple. And FSU was cheated by the Committee even more so in my view. Undefeated. Won their Conference Title by 10 points yet They get kicked out and #8 Bama is promoted to a Playoff spot. It’s just Wrong on every level. But I believe Allot of $$$ swapped hands to make Absolutely Sure Bama would be in there.
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Lamardlee
✭✭ Sophomore
I do hate to be a whiner, but man, I am tired of the officiating every time we play Alabama. Has Alabama ever had a game where 90% of the bad calls went against them? By my count on Saturday, Bama committed two blatant pass interferences, one blatant facemask, completed a 4th down incompletion, and were the beneficiaries of what I consider to be a very iffy horse collar penalty called against us. Yes, we had opportunities to overcome it and made our own mistakes with the false start and the fumble primarily. However, when the bad calls and non calls by the officials never balances out over the years, it really makes me wonder if the refs aren't getting a little extra in their paycheck from either Saban or bama boosters. I just don't think that it can be bad luck or coincidence every time we play them. If we had been able to play bama with neutral refs over Kirby's tenure, we would already have 3 National Championships and a shot this year at a 4th. I think that it is time for the NCAA to do some investigating. Buying refs would be a much bigger deal than illegally stealing signs. There, I said it since no one else would.
In closing, I hope that Michigan beats bama in the playoff game on an incomplete pass called a touchdown on the last play of the game after the Michigan receiver shoves a bama cornerback to the ground to get open, right in front of a ref who conveniently leaves the penalty flag in his pocket, and that there is not conclusive evidence to overturn it. Then, two years later, Michigan's win in the semifinal and the Championship game are vacated by the NCAA because of their sign stealing scandal. Ultimately, no one wins the National Championship during the last year of the 4 team playoff.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Biggest loser was JERrmaine BUrton caught on camera ranting at the UGA crowd yelling F.U. over and over again. Making momma proud!
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Doggone
✭✭✭ Junior
The Committee had to pick 4 teams. There were 6 or so teams that could have been considered. But they had 4 spots this year. Bama proved that it was one of the top teams by the way it played especially at the end of the season. They did what they had to do to win albeit with providence. We (Dawgs) cannot complain, as we had shown inconsistency throughout the season (granted our best two games being against the Vols and Rebels) but we had an **** win at Tech and then fizzled in Atlanta. Our strength of schedule was also suspect. The folks that were hard done by was FSU. Their defence won the ACC championship for them. But clearly their offence is struggling without their best QB. Texas performed well at the end, 12-1 record for anyone no small feat. Apparently the "Committee" thought that FSU's performance against the top teams without their starting QB would be affected so much so that it was better to select a team that did not have that severe loss at that critical position. It is one thing to be down a player in another position, however with your starting QB out, that changes the whole offensive dynamic. You still have to hate it for FSU as they showed great courage and ability in winning the ACC championship. The Georgia - FSU game should be interesting. If Alabama's defence was able to stymie us like they did, imagine what FSU's might do. But may the Dawgs begin a new series and chapter and make it past 29 this time. Even though we lost, the Dawgs 12-1 record speaks for itself. This was another "elite" team.
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RedPantsDawg
✭✭✭ Junior
After the first drive, two major things happened. One, Mims got hurt. Two, Alabama started playing high cover so Bowers and the other WR's wouldn't beat them. When a defense plays high cover, the offensive adjustment is to run the ball. The problem was Alabama's front 4 whipped our OL and stopped the run. When our offense can't run, you lose the play action passing game which is our bread and butter. Bobo didn't get out coached our OL got beat in 1:1 match ups. Credit Alabama.
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DallasDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
@reddawg1 I don't think @Eastmandawg was talking about you there, I think he meant Conor, who wrote the piece? I mean, I'm speaking for him, but I don't think that was directed at you, based on what he said in it. And I do think what you wrote is very true. It made a difference. Many folks have made good points here, but I do want to point out one thing with regard to the big miss by the replay officials. It was an egregiously missed call. No doubt about that, But, and this is a noteworthy "but," the play BEFORE that Alabama faced a 3rd and 21 and we allowed them to complete a pass for 17 yards. That, in turn, allowed Saban to even think about going for it on fourth down. If we break up that pass, or even keep the completion to say, 8-10 yards, Bama is very likely punting. Again, this does not excuse or absolve the referees for blowing the fourth down call. It's just to show that had UGA done a better job of playing defense, that call would have never been an issue.
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navydawg
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Thank You So Much My Brother !! Please see my reply on the other thread where you had reposted your comment. God Bless You !! Wish You and Family a Very Merry Christmas !!
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deputydog
✭✭✭✭ Senior
The strength of the offense all year was a maturing QB in Carson Beck. I don't understand why they took the ball out of his hands during the game. Why we did not throw the ball more? I just feel UGA did not play its best ball on Saturday and that is a a shame because I think UGA is better than all 4 playing for the title.
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Georgia67
✭✭✭✭ Senior
I respect Bobo, but I’m on the fence about him as OC. My 85-year-old mother, who has been a Dawg fan since before I was born, asked me on Saturday, “Why are they still trying to run between the tackles?”. I replied, “You, me, and everyone else is wondering the same thing”. She replied, “Well, Coach Kirby should know better than that by now, he better tighten up”. Got to love it folks!
Go Dawgs!
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doubledawg1990
✭✭✭ Junior
SEC and Josh Brooks (UGAA) are losers for pulling the Oklahoma game AND then replacing it with such a lame replacement - to go along with the many other lame games we had on the schedule this year. Required us to be perfect this year through the SEC championship. The lame games won't matter as much in a 12 game playoff, and, the 12 game playoff should allow scheduling better opponents because you can weather 2 (maybe 3) loses and still make the 12 game playoff.
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robinsdawg
✭✭✭ Junior
First, Bama didn't beat us; we beat ourselves, by just a few mistakes mostly mentioned all over the place - fumble, penalty, a busted coverage, and one i'll cover more later - specific defensive coaching. Second, Bama had to play, easily, their best game of the year while our game was mediocre. (sound familiar, osu last year). Third, as someone alluded to below about Bama's pass defense. They started the game with zone on the back and we tore them up. I mentioned to my sons (who i'm always texting during games) if they stick with zone, we'll tear them up; they didn't and we didn't. Finally, from a frustration point of view, i got to reminiscing about Kirby's tenure and wondered "how many of the 15 losses came from just a couple simple mistakes, be they by player, coach, or ref that altered the course (not always result directly) of the game." Player - a dropped pass on the first offensive play in SECCG vs LSU or a fumble on the ten yard line allowing a short field for the opponent. Coach - not putting Lorenzo Carter in deep coverage on a Hail Mary from Tenn or not knowing that Milroe was gonna run every play on Bama's game killing drive. (again i texted that to my sons; not gonna risk turnover). I would have loved getting a stop and watching Carson take us down the field to a potential game winning score. Ref - calling offside on a blocked punt or not reviewing a fourth down catch. I'm not saying these types of mistakes cost us a game, but they shouldn't occur, and the course of the games would have been different. Sometimes the opponent (team or player) is just better, but that wasn't the case Saturday.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I never labled anyone a loser. Maybe you're a loser for trying to say somebody said something they didn't say. Everthing I said was true, tell me where I'm wrong instead of trying to put words in my mouth.
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Eastmandawg
✭✭✭ Junior
@Connor Riley
So Mike Bobo is a "loser"???........let me guess, he should have called for a pass when we ran and ran the ball when we passed.
Is that about right??
If so:
1) what defense was Bama in on those occasions?
2) what was the offensive game plan going into the game & did it change when Mims went out?
3) did Bobo call those plays, did Beck call them, did Beck audible out of them??
4) Did the receiver situation affect the play calling??
All basic questions you should know the answers to before you label someone a "loser".
From my seat, plays work when they are executed......and all plays do not work. Pretty sure you got most of this right when you said this;
"Georgia lost on Saturday for a number of reasons. It couldn’t get stops late. It couldn’t score early. It couldn’t block Alabama and the Bulldogs couldn’t get open downfield."
It's a LOS game, sometimes the ball doesn't bounce your way, sometimes the man lining up across from you is just better, sometimes you need a little luck and sometimes the better team wins that day/night.
Labeling Bobo a "loser" is just a lazy narrative. You should at least know what you are talking about if you do.....if you do indeed know what you are talking about, answer the questions above.
Pretty **** good run.....29 & 0, 45 of the last 46 and two national championships. Proud of the dawgs and staff win or lose, they all fought for 60 minutes. They are no losers here, but labeling Mike Bobo one makes you certainly look like one to these eyes.
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reddawg1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
The game was a very even game in terms of all the stats-total yards, time of possession, 1st downs etc.
The game basically swung on a few key plays not made . THe penalty that backed the FG try up 5 yards. We couldnt cover the weheel route by our young LB. THe 3rd and 1 we couldn't convert by running Dajon. The fumbled exchange by BEck and Bell, a false start by Brock Bowers and of course the incomplete pass by BAMA that was ruled a catch that the Replay Booth couldn't be bothered by to review! And then we couldn't contain Milroe the last possession of the game.
Bobo came out guns blazing with 4-4 passing for 57 yards the first drive. THe next possession it was 0-3 passing and punt. The next possession was 3 straight runs and punt. Very imaginative,right.
The next possession was going splendidly with CB running for 8 yards for a 1st down to the Bama 19 after CB had gone 3-4 passing for 31 yards. Here is where Bobo went back to default mode when we had them reeling, 2 straight runs by Milton for 0 yards! How many time did we see this all year that stopped good drives when we had been passing it? Now it's 3rd and 10 and BEck gets sacked. Then the false start on a FG try? Seriously?
We spent over 7 minutes on the clock and came away with nothing! Ouch!
Our RB's averaged less than 2 yards per carry if you take out the one MIlton run for 16 on the first drive. A smidgen over 2 yards if you factor it in. Our passing game averaged 10+ yards per completion. We ran the ball 29 times by design and threw it 29 times! BAlanced yay!
Without the misques and the bad call by the ref perhaps we find a way to win.
I said days ago we wouldn't beat Bama by playing bully ball running it. Our best bet was CB throwing it around. We needed less mistakes and about 6-7 more Beck pass completions and 5-6 fewer runs. IF Beck goes 27-37 for 310, we win. He wasn't given a chance.
He was supposed to be a top 5 or 6 Heisman finalist but he didn't even get to have 30 attempts. Shame.
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David1
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Ok people, I understand freedom of expression, but if you vote down that they can’t beat Georgia without help from the refs, you must be a troll fan of some other sorry school or don’t know the facts. I know Georgia played awful, but a game shouldn’t be decided by the zebras, only the players on the field. Go Dawgs!
And this group of playoff committee members should all be fired for not following the guidelines and rules. 4 best teams? Please. Not even close. If any fsu fans are on this sight, you can blame the refs from our game as another reason they were left out. If Georgia had won, fsu probably would have gotten in because the Texas win over that team to our west would not look as good.
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MobileDawg
✭✭✭✭ Senior
@ Navydawg
God be with you Brother, enjoy the one thing you can still do and enjoy it. Until people have walked in your shoes they sometime don't understand, yes the world has changed, lot of folks like us understand sacrifice and commitment. Sadly there are a lot that don't. Trust me, there are a lot of us out there, they call us the silent majority, so long as we're here and faith is present we are in good hands.
Thank you and every other Veteran and their families for the sacrifices you've made. I know it's off topic so that's all I'm going to say. Have peace navydawg and others in your situation.
Back on topic, Go Dawgs!
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MobileDawg
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Winners are the UGA Alum and Fans who support this "Great Program". Perfection is hard, I see many things in the prism but whining won't change a thing. I personally don't like the 12 team playoff, it adds two additional games for teams 5 thru 12. I believe 8 teams would give the best programs a fair shot, but, there will always be unknowns in the game, officiating, coaching, turnovers, etc.
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dawgfromduluth
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Very politically correct decision from the committee. In so many ways. It's probably what the TV execs wanted. Always follow the money.
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MontanaDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Too many close games against Bama over the years that could or should have gone the other way. Too many spoiled dreams and goals crushed by Saban. They are our nemesis, no doubt about it. Maybe we'll get a little revenge in Tuscaloosa next season. I'd rather have lost to Vandy.
I said last week that this game was going to be the biggest test so far of Kirby's career as head coach here. I just knew how battle worn we were, and how hungry those Saban boys were.
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jdatl3
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Loser, Kirby. Vanilla defensive alignment that allowed milroe all the time in the world. Forget the rest, it was coaching this time.
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SmartsTheMan
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I said before the game, Georgia will have to beat Bama by more than 10-points because the SEC officials are always worth at least 7- 10 points for Alabama. Georgia will never beat Alabama in a one-score game as long as the SEC officials keep giving Bama extra possessions and allowing their DB's to maul Georgia's receivers. When they finally did call PI, the announcer said, "they didn't get away with it that time. "
I felt that Georgia was in trouble after the Georgia Tech game - with Bowers and McConkey out it was the first game when Beck passed for less than 250. That showed that without them, as well as Rara Thomas, it was a vastly diminished offense.
I put no blame on Bobo. Look at the first drive, Bowers came out and the Bama defense had to defend the whole field - as far as they knew, Bobo had all of his weapons. Then McConkey comes in and catches a pass. As the game progressed, McConkey starts limping around, and it was easy to see that Bowers was not close to 100%. After that there was no need for the Bama defense to fear the passing game, just key on the run, because knew the offense wasn't strong enough in the passing game.
Georgia still did enough to win the game. Take that 7-points off the board on the non-catch 4th down (that always gets reviewed) and it's still a game that Georgia can win.
The Bama DB's were hitting Bowers and McConkey early on many pass plays, and the officials allowed it. The horse-collar call was complete BS, also.
I'm still proud of this team, and I know they are good enough to deserve to be included in the 4-team playoffs.
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GtheGreek
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Mike Bobo is a very good OC......carrot cake is also very good but to make it GREAT you got to top it with real cream cheese icing, again I say hire Buster Faulkner as co-offensive coordinator to add creativity and a roll the dice attitude.....plus we have the position covered when Mike decides to step away.
Proud to be a Dawg.....B/R in Athens, class of 76.......BEAT The Noles and refocus on 30 straight! I for one can't wait to see MORE of AE3...Anthony Evans III !
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87dawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Loser was the coaching. We started very strong and had a fired up team and then changed what we were doing. And when you can’t run up the middle, stop trying to run up the middle. Who among us wasn’t hollering the question “Why?!”.
Our defense did nothing to stop runs to the outside for the 4th straight game and the most egregious of all, how do you not call timeout to review that non-catch? Even close it should have been looked at. Were you saving the timeout for some secret reason? You can’t take them with you. That was bad, bad coaching and yes, it did make a difference. You can say “Oh, they played better than us” but a stop on fourth down that prevents a touchdown was the difference, regardless of what else happened.
Bad offensive and defensive coaching and game management.
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LawDawg23
✭✭ Sophomore
I agree with doubledawg1990, blaming Bobo is a cheap shot. When the opposing team is controlling the line of scrimmage, success with anything in the playbook will be limited.
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doubledawg1990
✭✭✭ Junior
Silly to say Bobo/Bobo playing calling is a "Loser". Look at the breakdown of recent recruiting classes. Bama actually has more potential for talent than Dawgs when you look at 5 star and 4 stars. These were really evenly matched teams and it showed with the edge going to Bama along the offensive lines of scrimmage - particularly their O-line vs our D-line. CKS always says that any play, if executed properly, can result in an explosive. ANY play. Bama out executed us slightly more than we did. It's just that simple. I do believe/think the 4th down "reception" was a huge bust for SEC crew. Probably one of top 3 reasons we lost. However, we still had our chances and didn't get it done.
Blaming Bobo is a lazy analysis to be sure.
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kylnmeg10
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I think an * should be put on Bobo/offense, blame the injuries if you want to, but yet again play calling went extremely vanilla yet again against Bama. Bamas defense is not superior by any means, but yet we seem to want to go out and try to run the ball at them, ALL GAME LONG. Yeah I know it hurts with the injuries, but why did we go after Lovett, and why do we have the fastest WR in the country that we don't use? Either there's zero extra reps between Beck/Lovett/Smith, or Bobo didn't want to show his hand too much just-in-case we snuck in the playoff. Either way, it makes no sense. We can't ride the injury excuse bus like Bama does. This was poor play calling. "8-9 guys in the box, yeah let's run it". I want to so badly blame the whole ref situation, but we also shouldn't have been down to those 1-2 plays to begin with. Either way, I'm proud of this team. They beat 1 Bama record that saban will never top, didn't come close. Feel nothing but disgust for these guys and the FSU guys. Lay it all on the line just for CFP(bama/osu) committee to slap them in the face and say "you're not good enough".
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GoodOlDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I believe the biggest factor was the number of injured starters:
-When Mims went out of the game with his injury it changed the dynamic of the offense.
-With Bowers and McConkey unable to go full speed and the absence of Thomas, it seemed like no one was able to get separation to open up the passing game.
-The fumble happened on a play where McConkey normally gets a pitch while sweeping around behind the QB, but it looked like Bell was looking for a hand-off when Beck pitched it back. If McConkey was healthy they would have run that play with him.
-Mondon was limited by injury and Sorey had to come in and play a lot in the second half, so there was a lot of inexperienced linebackers playing.
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ScoreCheck
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Alabama ALLWAYS get the majority of the calls / no calls no matter who they are playing. Saturday was no exception.
