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BigDawg61
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Technically...at the point the decision was made....the booth had more than enough time to review the play. If it was a play susceptible to review....the booth would've initiated it.
As far as i know....The officials on the field, do not have the authority to initiate a review or reverse a call that is considered non-reviewable by rule.....after the call is made, ball is spotted and ready for play.
The Referee's "change of heart" occurred after that and the bottle shower....while they were gathered up, shooting the breeze. Minutes after the ball was signaled ready for play.
I don't know what you do about something like this....I've never seen it before. Lol...and, they thought a "Challenge & Review Process" would eliminate most of the controversy surrounding referees.
If you ask me…it's gotten much worse. Maybe the Officials they're putting on the field, these days are under-qualified.
The thinking being....'With all those extra eyes on a play, Replay Officials and Challenge Flags....you don't need a great group of officials on the field....you need a great group of cameras with a qualified Booth Official.'
Well...It ain't workin'. We've got some of the worst officiating, from top to bottom...in the history of Football, in general. Officials are making some calls, they know may be wrong....counting on the eye-in-the-sky to keep it real. If the camera, Booth or Coach doesn't catch the bad call in time.…no review. Bad call lives on.
In the Texas case....all of the protocols were bypassed, to ensure the Home Team didn't kill em over a Bad Call.
Did the Officials feel threatened?....And, then changed the call? Did they feel, they were being extorted by the crowd. Lol....Maybe, they should've cleared the stadium in the area the bottles were flying from, to finish the game, safely.
Here's a question, nobody's askin'....
[if the Replay Official is there to monitor the game for replay review and adherence to the rules......WHY didn't they buzz down to tell the Field Judge that changing that call was NOT an option.
I'll tell ya why..…the Booth Official and TV announcers, were the ones that told the field judge...."they got the call wrong". They changed the call, in direct violation of the rules governing "Penalty Review and Challenge" protocols.
Pass Interference....Offensive or Defensive....is a "Judgment Call" on the part of the official....given various checkpoints and specific criterion. That official's judgment is the final word.
That's WHY it's NOT REVIEWABLE.....even if that Official, realizes he screwed his team by making the call....and....has a change of heart 5 minutes later.
Lol...Bul'logna....if the Official had known at the time, that Texas was gonna intercept it....he would've kept his flag in his pocket, or called Offensive PI. Give him a break.…he was trying to appear unbiased. He just picked an unfortunate...[for Texas].…time to do it. Lmao
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CandlerPark
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Is there a rule that reviews must be initiated within a certain amount of time … say one minute (real time, not game-clock time)? If not, there ought to be.
I can see why they decided it was offensive interference. In fact, it's good for Georgia not to have an asterisk on this win. But Sankey's not addressing the problem that the officials have now incentivized this kind of behavior — and $250,000 doesn't even come close to disincentivizing it.
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kirkhilles
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Yeah, I mean, when tearing your OWN goal posts down (which is basically unofficially allowed by the school) is a $100k fine, saying that $250k is a "massive fine" is pretty laughable.
Not a bad idea on banning alcohol, but I would personally do something more meaningful and memorable. For their next home game vs Florida, void all Student tickets. No preventing students from attending, just void the tickets and cover the entire student section so no one can sit there.
One person doing something is unavoidable, but many full water bottles? That is a SERIOUS failure in security. We shouldn't have been the cleanup crew, we should've seen a dozen security guards actively ARRESTING people in the stands. Music should've been turned off, lighting effects and any "home field advantage" should've been removed.
If Georgia fans did this, I would be so heartbroken… just really, really awful.
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UGADad20
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Not a bad idea. But probably too extreme for most people to agree to. The logistics surrounding ticketing, scheduling and traveling would make it very difficult. But it would serve the unruly fans right.
You want to stop fans throwing trash on the field or storming the field after? Don't have the fines pocketed by the SEC. Have the fine money put into the opposing teams NIL fund.
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lucydog
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Massive fine? $250000—chump change for the University of Texas. You would make a great weatherman, Conner!
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BigDawg61
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Lol...NIL and other side interests of the Football Program...will cover this "one-time fee" for throwing a Fan'trum. Well worth it....if it gets you a win, you would otherwise, not have.
Coaches can build that strategy into their Program. The penalty is acceptable, considering the reward. Lol. Only, 1 per Season.
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E_Roc
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Have people seen the official statement from the SEC about the refs doing the "right thing" (according to the ESPN "rules expert")? Completely omits the fact that there was a four minute delay to account for the Texas-sized temper tantrum before the call was reversed. Puts the focus squarely on the crowd's reaction, as if that was the only thing that went wrong there. Nothing surprising at all about that. But it's worth calling attention to.
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JayDog
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there were many questionable calls and no calls in the game. Both targeting penalties were just the more devastating of them for Georgia. The suspensions should be reversed given the offensive players had time to lower their heads prior to contact. I won’t hold my breath for the league office to do the right thing.
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GtheGreek
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The fine is a joke but if the SEC is seriously interested in this never happening again, it's a simple fix…..if it happens again the team forfeit's the remainder of the years home games and must travel or forfeit the game…..now that's a financial penalty that will get instant results. A second violation results in a year forfeiture of home games.
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Dawgsfan71
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a real fine Mr. Sankey, would be to make them travel to Bama, Georgia, and Ole Miss and Tenn at home, like you made Georgia play this year.
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GaBoi69
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My comment to the University of Texas football and its fans...you cannot come to the SEC in your first year crying. There is no crying in SEC football.
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reddawg1
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I understand having the crown of the helmet rule and launching, and spearing, however I just saw 2 football players making plays. I saw shoulders being struck, and when you strike a shoulder you can't help but get some of the helmet too! Football is a tough, physical game, but they are almost making it flag football. The replay refs should consider was there intent to destroy someone or just a player trying to tackle the other guy who often times is lowering his head at the last second, which often initiates the helmet to helmet contact inadvertently.
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Robindawnsowell
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unfortunately they will pass the penalty on to students that had nothing to do with it. So the struggling student will have to pay a larger junk athletic fee next year
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Bdw3184
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Nor can you keep the receiver from turning around to catch the ball, which is exactly what resulted from his actions!
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Spdawg
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So in other words, a slap on the wrist. Why not scholarship reductions and recruiting penalties to truly impact the team?
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DallasDawg
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The fines mean nothing. Texas is being punished off the field, but the on-field consequences of these ridiculous actions were immediate and massive and potentially worth far more than $250,000 to Texas if they had actually won the game. I mean, if they had won, they would have been a virtual lock for the playoffs. How much is that worth? Also, I agree with those who are asking if there will be any disciplining of the referees themselves and if so, will that be made public. At the very least, I think we all should get an explanation of why they waited until AFTER they had announced the penalty, stepped it off and marked the ball ready for play with Georgia in possession — and after the garbage parade — did they decide to discuss whether the call itself was legitimate.
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JimWallace
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This is about like giving a millionaire a $250 fine and a strongly worded letter.
Fans identified get a tiny slap on the wrist, too, for actions which could have killed someone.
Not impressed with the SEC officials.
Go, Dawgs!
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JimWallace
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This is about like giving a millionaire a $250 fine and a strongly worded letter.
Fans identified get a tiny slap on the wrist, too, for actions which could have killed someone.
I'm not impressed with the response of the SEC officials.
Go, Dawgs!
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1SICemDAWGS1
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Not to mention it happened in front of a record crowd at a Texas home football game..I love it! I bet Matthew Maconahay ( or however you spell his last name) is sulking today lol it was very amusing seeing him shellshocked during the game. Was hoping they'd show him after the game, after his beloved longhorns played like a bunch of castrated bulls..
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David1
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A comment about the “officials” should have been included if they plan on any action against them at all.
The video review should have been enacted during the game to remove those responsible, especially those responsible for actually hitting people with the objects. -
VenomGA
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refs were so bad last night in this game. It can't be Off PI when the defensive player put his hands on the WR first That by definition is Def PI. Rewarding TX by overturning the PI from Def to Off because your fans threw crap on the field was also wrong. The officiating crew needs to be disciplined too.
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MACDAWG
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True, $250,000 is a drop in the bucket for UT, but I like to think of it as salt in the wound after losing such a big home game. You're #1 in the county, at home, Gameday is there, your'e picked by everyone to win, it's labeled one of the biggest games this year, record crowd, you have the officials in your pocket, and still get totally dominated….and think how bad it would have been if our offense had played well. It's great to be a Georgia Bulldog today. Also, the man hours identifying and tracking down all those people who threw stuff is going to be enormous. I wouldn't want that job and what if they don't follow through, who is going to check and make sure they're really going after these people? I wonder if anything will really come from that, there was a lot of crap on that field.
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reddawg1
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Not sure how it's offensive pass interference if the defender puts his hands on the receiver first. Go back and watch it in slow motion and see who initiates first contact! You can't check the receiver 20 yards down field.
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bogarttad
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A $250,000 fine may sound massive for Mississippi, but who we kidding-Texas? Far better should the referees kept the ball with GA and added a fan generated unsportmanship q5 yard penalty on top of it.
