Jake was rarely allowed to play to his strengths in the UGA offense. He excelled in two minute drill situations, but UGA preferred to milk the clock on three and out drives in most situations. That and wildcat plays and RPOs. Perhaps he finds a system that is a better match for his talents in the NFL. No idea if he’s good enough to make it at the next level, but wish him the best!
Let’s see how Jake tests at the combine before we anoint him with a first round grade. Not dissing on Jake but here’s what I expect they will find: (1) he’s not 6’2”, (2) his 40 time and 3 cone drill will be slow and (3) his hand size is small. I project a third round grade for him and being on a practice squad next fall. If he can do better than that, more power to him. Good luck Jake!
Not really all that on board with this comparison. Brady is probably the best QB to ever toss a pigskin. He also elevates the receivers around him, which Fromm hasn't shown he can do. He will be as good as the players around him for right now, and he can obviously improve, but not dramatically, in my opinion.
It's over now...Jake is gone and will make his way into the NFL at some juncture. Great guy and talent...wish him the best.
Guys like McShay watch tape all day and talk to scouts but, I can't see where Fromm has tools any better than what David Greene had and he couldn't make a team in the NFL.
Maybe the offense at Georgia just wasn't suited to his physical talent and someone in the NFL can see the way to make him successful as a pro. I hope so. I like him. But I've always felt he's physically limited. He throws darts on short yardage passes but when he has to go deeper than twenty yards his accuracy gets a little iffy. Plus, he seems scared to death of throwing to the middle of the field.
Agree with ShoottheHooch: McShay is no oracle. Nice enough guy, but mostly just parrots what he's told by NFL scouts (who are looking to spread disinformation wrt their team's real grades).
I doubt Jake goes in the first. But the bright side of going later: better team/situation (have fun in Cincy, Joe) and maybe a better contract situation as first-rounders are locked in to their rookie contracts for an extra year.
Andrew Thomas didn't look raw to me. Would go to war with that guy anytime.
I think JF's biggest asset is his ability to read the defense. But he lacks in arm strength, accuracy and mobility. So, he is an adequate or even good college QB but it will be difficult for him to survive in the NFL. I would predict he will not be drafted in the first 3 rounds. I actually will not be surprised if he is not drafted at all.
We all know Pittman is a great recruiter. But to have all them 5 star lineman and we cant blow teams up with the running game even though they know it is a run something wrong. Our guys was losing the line of scrimmage. That is a lack of coaching there.
Amen. Good luck to you Jake but don't let he door hit ya. Best of luck to all the dawgs headed to or in the pros but it's time to focus on who wants to be here. Its time for Jamie and the jets!
Love all Jake did for UGA, but his "football intelligence" goes out the window in bad weather. Playing half the season in Boston in cold, wet conditions would be a recipe for disaster.
Jake must of gotten some kinda of assurance he was going in the top 2 rounds or else he stays and tries to move up higher. Lot of money difference between low 1st round(don't believe it) or high to middle 2nd round(better possibility) than the 3rd round. He has to be in a position where someone convinced him that returning to UGA and putting up better numbers wan't going to improve his stock.
Hard to believe that would be in the 3rd round or later.
I've thought about this too for the past couple years. The Pats drafted Stidham last year, so what do they do with him? Is he the guy or do they move to Fromm? I would love to see Jake hand off to Sony like old times!
It would be great for Jake to get drafted in the 1st round and while I don't like the Patriots, it would not be a bad thing for him to play behind Brady for a few years while he adjusts and develops for the pro game.
I haven't heard a whole lot about Andrew Thomas being raw as a 3 year starter and two at left tackle, where if you're raw in college, you have almost no chance of success as a left tackle in the pros. I wouldn't have described him as raw as a true freshman right tackle I don't know what McShay is seeing on film and I doubt most of us who have watched Thomas play, would not describe him as raw. I would describe him as a 10 year NFL starter at left tackle. If you don't think Pittman develops players, who saw Isaiah Wynn going in the 1st round and protecting Brady's blindside? Who thinks Isaiah Wilson has not improved since he's been with Pittman. In the upcoming draft, Solomon Kinley may go in the first 3 rounds and how can Pittman not get some credit for his development?
Are you kidding me? People pay to read McShay's, Kiper's too for that matter, worthless drivel about the draft? You'd think they'd be on some NFL team's payroll the way ESPN pumps them up as "draft experts". Here's a thought: take that money you'd pay to ESPN to the corner bar and ask the bartender his or her opinion about the draft. The OPINION you get will be just as "expert" as McShay or Kiper, plus you will get a drink!
I couldn't agree with you more Ugagolf80. The Patriots were the first team I thought of when he declared for the NFL.
With Jake's football intelligence he would soak up Belichick's offense like a sponge; and he would also have the advantage of being Brady's understudy for a year or two (who knows how much longer he will play).
SCEdwards and I agree on this one....Jake and the physical climate. My major point with Fromm are his cold and wet weather hands....they don't work as well. Teams have to be aware of this. It was most noticeable this past season. Otherwise, Jake was good for UGA football. His "mind" is always in the game. People respect him. Good-hearted Lad. Hope he is drafted in early round...good .for him and for UGA.
DawgOn is right...".Though Pittman is an unparalleled recruiter, he did not coach his recruits up as he should have, or we would have road graded many defenses having much smaller linemen." As some of you know, I have problems with Pittman. Great PR man, not so great coach. He is a "hale fellow well met" type. Big grin, greets you like you're his best friend. Great for recruits, yet leaves UGA's top lineman "raw," after three years? Luke has the same initial charm but produces on the field...so far!!! Glad Pittman is gone but it likely cost UGA a top recruit/commit Broderick Jones. Not sure but likely.
Good luck to Jake in whichever round he drafts in.
However, it's time to turn our focus on 2020 without Fromm. The Dawgs are loaded with talent on both sides of the ball. No matter what the outcome of the QB competition, there will be a QB behind the Dawgs that should be above average to excellent. He will have a plethora of quality receivers to throw to - better than ANY group the Dawgs have had EVER. I'm not worried about the OL, because I wasn't super impressed with their play this year other than in a couple of games. We've got enough talent there to be competitive. Our defense will be as stout or even better than this year's squad.
2020 could be the year of the Natty or certainly AT least the playoffs.
ESPN's early 2020 Top 25 has the Dawgs @ #6 and Bama @ #3. Sports Illustrated's early Top 25 has the Dawgs @ #2 only behind Clemson and before Bama (#4). In any case, there is no reason we can't beat Bama even on their turf.
From Sports Illustrated...
The top three teams in the SEC are all losing veteran quarterbacks, but the Bulldogs might have scored the coup of transfer season by landing Wake Forest evacuee Jamie Newman, who was second in the ACC in total offense at 287 yards per game. Combine that key transfer with the monster recruiting classes that Kirby Smart has stacked up, and Georgia could be next season’s LSU. (But the offensive line will have to be largely rebuilt.)
“Although he will occasionally give up some ground to bull-rushers, he shows initial pop,” McShay penned. “His game is raw, but the athleticism and potential are there.”
This statement by McShay says it all concerning Pittman. After three years under Pittman, why is Thomas still considered raw and his potential unrealized? Why did UGA's O linemen, though collectively having enough stars to fill the heavens, always seem to under-perform? Though Pittman is an unparalleled recruiter, he did not coach his recruits up as he should have, or we would have road graded many defenses having much smaller linemen. This frustrated me. I loved how Luke came in and, using many who were not starters, did a terrific job. Under Luke, I see good things ahead that will benefit the team as a whole.
"Fromm is the type of QB who will always find a way to win
I like Jake. But if he had done that in a couple of his biggest games. He would be Jake the "Legend".
Not sure how cold weather teams playing in an outdoor stadium will grade Fromm. I don't know if his hands are small or not but he really struggled in bad weather games with his grip and accuracy this year. I hope he does go in the first round. Great qb and ambassador for UGA.
I think he'd actually be a perfect fit for the Patriots. He's very much like Brady: not the most physically gifted QB, but he's wicked smart and would fit right into Belichick's offense.
I literally don't know. He's one of those non-typical QBs kinda like a Tebow (but certainly NOT Tebow). I have no idea whether his strengths are strengths in the NFL or not. I guess we will see and whether drafted 1st round, 3rd round or undrafted, we'll see how he does in the NFL. Best of luck.