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I don't think anyone is saying bench SB, but I do hear a lot of people (self included) who are saying give Beck or JT some playing time(if we can keep from having a nail biter against Kentucky) and just see how they look. Start developing another guy.
I am saying that if SB is better(more talented) than Beck and JT then something is wrong with the rating system and nothing should be trusted (or CKS is simply going with old reliable in his mind). I believe he did the same thing when he stuck with Fromm over Fields.
I am one who has watched tape of JT at USC and came away impressed with his poise and ability to find the open receiver(something SB didn't do against BAMA) go back and watch the tape and freeze the moment SB gets set to throw. See who is uncovered and who he ends up throwing to. It's an eye opener.
I've gone on record saying the same thing that Hunter Mason said(before he said it), that we should win out the East with Bennet. We just won't beat BAMA with him.
If that's the case then we just as well start giving the most talented guy(s) some meaningful playing and see how they respond or we just kick the can down the road til next season and start afresh with a QB with ZERO experience.(unless you're ready to roll with SB again)
Would Saban do that? No never... he certainly didn't put in a Freshman backup QB in the 2nd half of the National Championship game to beat us. Nope, never done that before.
A very talented freshman quarterback that had the benefit of enrolling early, going through spring drills and practices, summer workouts, fall practices, and an entire college football season. A very talented freshman QB, by the way, that about the only thing he did right in the NC game was hit a wide open receiver that was running free due to a busted coverage. Lord, how people have short memories when they are bent on making a point that is apples to oranges!
If Bennett is the guy, so be it but again, you have to play to his strengths. I get that he is smart and prior to the alabama game did his check downs but he does NOT have the long ball in him. You can win every game with 5 - 15 yard passes that go for completions. I like high percentage better than a heave and a prayer.
I would, however, point out that at the beginning of the year Kirby said he would have packages for D'Wan (or whomever was next) but we have yet to see those. Every other team does them and it breaks things up. If we have talent, they don't have to start but do something, ANYTHING, to mix it up. Especially when it is going bad.
I'm not so sure it's time to panic about losing any current or future roster members. With Vanadgriff slated to come on board, then with Mathis, Daniels, Beck and yes even Bennett, there will indeed be some crowding that will more than likely lead to one or more of these guys leaving. But we still don't have a clear sense of where each individual player is at with respect to injury recovery, development, contentment to stay and grow in the program, how the 2021 competition will shake out and what specifically it would take for each to decide the transfer portal is his best option. Even with departures, we may still see an overall improvement in the quarterback situation a year from now.
I keep going back and forth on how concerned to be about all of this with respect to the decision-making element. I can accept that Daniels and Mathis simply need more time, considering the severity of their injuries. The thing that gets me, though, is why not try Beck in that case? I get that he might not be showing an ideal readiness as a true freshman, but he probably never will until he starts getting significant first-team reps and/or real game action. Yeah, as a fan I'm kinda observing by candlelight here. But it seems like it will always be hard to say with any certainty that Beck isn't a better option until a side-by-side comparison can be made. I do believe there are games left on the schedule that can still be won while making such an assessment, at least for stretches here and there, and despite taking some of those first-team practice reps away from Bennett.
I hear what people are saying about trusting the coaching on this. And I do want to. I might feel better about it all if we were getting complete explanations, but I understand that will always be a long shot. Might as well sit back and hope for the best. After all, what else can we do?
Love all the "Kirby knows best" comments. To each his own. But one point on JT Daniels : You're totally off base. He started and played a full season at USC (having come out early - he should have been a H.S. senior - the kid is razor smart). Then, he passed for over 200 yards in the 1st HALF of his first game of Year 2 before suffering a severe knee injury. His replacement came in a played lights out and JT didn't come back (note he's only NOW cleared to play). Top three QBs coming out of H.S. same year? Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields, JT Daniels (and JT a year younger). Hey, maybe he's not healed (though the docs say he is) but to suggest he's just not good enough is laughable.
I think the problem is determining what is meant by "best" QB. Of course Bennett is going to be considered the "best" in Practice because practice doesn't simulate a game like playing Bama. I guarantee you that in the past 2 weeks, the practices haven't adjusted to our failure points. I'm sure the D wasn't pushing Bennett hard, reaching up and trying to deflect balls and I'm sure Bennett made lots of easy, accurate passes to the middle and Bennett showed off his knowledge of the plays and his accuracy and "won" practice as always.
Bama showed us the reality and if/when we play them again they'll have adapted even more to ensure we don't get a lead on them in the first half.
Look, all of our games have been decided by 20+ points. There's no excuse that none of our backups have thrown a single game pass since Bennett has taken over. Not a single pass. Mathis deserves more time. JT deserves time. Heck, even Beck should get some cleanup time.
Keep in mind this:
Look at 2015. Lambert had a decent year for decent talent (reminds me of this year): 63% completion rate with 12 TDs and only 2 INTs. Even so, Ramsey (4 star recruit) was allowed 35 attempts and Bauta (3 star recruit) 33 attempts.
Zero attempts at just about the halfway point for who was considered the 3rd best QB behind Fields and Lawrence who will be the Top 2 draft picks?
" . A very talented freshman QB, by the way, that about the only thing he did right in the NC game was hit a wide open receiver that was running free due to a busted coverage"
You obviously watched a different game. Tua entered the game trailing UGA with all the pressure in the world on him. It was his poise and his playmaking that brought BAMA back from a seemingly sure loss. UGA tried to run out the clock, the Tide gained momentum behind their young phenom and shall we say the rest is history. He not only went 14-24 for 166 and 3TD's (that's right 3! ) in the 2nd half alone to Jake Fromm's 16-32 for the game and 1 TD and 2 Int.
No UGA fan will forget how he somehow escaped a for sure sack to get a 1st down when he managed to dodge about half the defense.
Just a little revisionist history there. Yes the last throw was wide open but give the young man credit for looking off the safety and then executing a perfect pass.
How many times did we see Fromm miss open receivers when the pressure was on?
Laughable, but entertaining for comic relief! Brock would prefer UGA have their QB of the future in the house that has led them to the NC game? How’d that work out for Fields at UGA? Vandagriff probably can’t wait for January to get on campus to begin preparing for his college career since it will be his job to lose. He is obviously a golden boy five star high school QB? But wait! Those stars and golden boy status go away in college! Please reference Bo Nix, Jacob Eason, Shay Patterson, etc! All former five star golden boys who were very average college QBs. I am pulling for Brock to be the next Lawrence, but he better hit campus ready to compete! If Kirby has proven anything, he is going to play the QB that gives the team the best chance to win regardless of HS accolades! Personally, I wouldn’t want it any other way!
Putting aside your ax to grind for Smart, I'm glad someone said this. I made a very similar point yesterday (I think?). It's weird to me that so many could be familiar with the fact that Daniels went from being a starter to not being a starter, yet apparently somehow remain oblivious to the widely known reason that it happened. Really threading the needle with that, and it's just an incorrect argument.
Expectations - that is the word I can't seem to shake when I read these responses. I have a lot of them for UGA and CKS, but I also try not to set myself up for the let down. I believe that CKS wants to win, wants to win every game and that includes the playoffs and NC. I also have to believe that he understands what he has to work with, from the players, to the coaches and all the distractions that come along with it. I was hoping to see him improve as a HC from year to year and yes, even game to game. I haven't been disappointed with any of it. I did listen to Buck and Hutson the other day and they talked about how Kirby treats every position the same, "You win the chance to get on the field, during practice" and they believe that QB is a different type of player and maybe he should treat them differently. It made sense to me and excuse me if I butchered how they said it. BUT, it is still what the players do at practice and even though my expectations are really high, maybe just maybe, "The Mailman" is our best choice at this time. So I am keeping my expectations of winning the East, the SECC and a slot in the playoffs to get the job done! This is suppose to be my fun and stress relief every week, during some crazy times it is needed. I am not going to screw it up by thinking I know better than the guy who wants to win everything.
Go back and reference the articles written about his transfer. He was demoted...at USC! The only reason JT has just been released to play was because of further surgery on the knee in January which wasn’t part of the equation when he lost his starting job and decided to transfer. It’s all documented. Besides, Stetson could very well be starting at USC if that joke of a conference ever plays any games!
I'm not sure about Mathis (maybe it's his attitude) but I believe (admittedly without evidence) that CKS is upset with Daniels because he apparently didn't tell them about the second surgery on his knee. Again, I admit I have ZERO PROOF to back up my theory, but I just don't believe that the way the Alabama game was going, the fact that you took the kid to an away game BEFORE he was cleared to play, then seemingly rushed that clearance after the game, that he wouldn't have played by now if Kirby wasn't upset with him. Because Kirby is obviously stubborn, I just think he's taking a, "you screwed us, now we're going to screw you" approach with Daniels and as long as Bennett and Mathis can remain upright, Daniels never plays. Just one man's opinion. Go Dawgs!
Need to offer Brock VanderGriff's pint sized receiver extraordinaire a scholarship or at the very least a preferred walk-on. He ain't big as nothing but no one can cover him. all he does is score. Can't be worse than some of our 6'4" receivers who never seem to catch anything.
I'm done making comments about Bennett and the QB situation for now. We'll see how he does against KY and FL. I hope he shines and surprises everyone.
The main things we need to improve on offensively is 3rd down efficiency and Red Zone scoring. We don't improve those stats then my bet is we won't be going very far...
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