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Tragic on so many levels. I also see plenty of assumptions and innuendo cast about... I agree it doesn't look good from here, and it breaks my heart; but believe we should save conclusions until all facts are assembled and shared publicly. At that point, it might look even worse, who knows. Fortunately (and sadly), there are several witnesses who are surely cooperating, not the least of which includes Ms. Bowles and Mr. McClendon. Prayers for all.
Lol...assumptions and innuendo have become part of the American Media fabric. Social media, just adds gas to the fire.
We live and breath on a 24 hour news cycle. In order to keep the public entertained, a certain amount of speculation is used to fill in blanks, left by missing facts. And, some facts are omitted, to maintain the original narrative. So, take what you hear in the news with a grain of salt.
I suspected there might be a "racing" fad going on in Athens, after the Dumas-Johnson announcement. We did the same thing when I was young, back in the '70's. We stopped, after one our best friends, was nearly killed in a nasty accident, with about 30 spectators in attendance.
Nobody was charged in that incident...but, it didn't matter. We learned our lesson, the hard way. The time for charges and arrests is...BEFORE there's an accident. I'll be willing to bet anything, this has been going on in Athens for quite a while, right under the noses of the Police and University.
Probably, going back to the Pandemic...when our Youth across the U.S. we're rioting, burning, killing, maiming and destroying government and private property...with no repercussions. Kids think they are invincible and above the law....and, rightfully so. That's the visual message that was put out there by the "mostly peaceful protests" over the last few years...by ALL of your favorite News outlets.
I don't know if you all have noticed...but, these sort of shenanigans are going on at the HS and College level, in pockets across the Nation. Maybe it's a cumulative effect of "Lax Parenting", going back to the '60's. Each generation becoming a little more lenient and "accepting". It's hard to tell the Parent from the Child, anymore. Lol
Kirby needs to get a grip on his Program??? LOL. No Sir...you need to get a grip on your kids. By the time Kirby gets em, they should already know right from wrong. It's going on across Georgia, right now....including, at the HS Level. DO something about THAT. Maybe Warlock...I mean Warnock will help...I know Herschel would've.
If we're gonna speculate...I just wonder if Bennett was involved in the Dumas-Johnson or Carter incident. Or, maybe a separate racing incident. A guilty conscience provides it's own justice.
Bottom line is it's not the end of the world...but, the beginning. Now, UGA and Athens Police can put a lock-down on this situation. The only thing they have to worry about is...what will these kids think of "next", to get the ole adrenaline glands pumping. Afterall...that's what being a kid, is all about.
And...there WILL be a "next". Like many parents across the Nation...all we can do is, worry about what we're teaching em and pray that God will watch over them.
My heart goes out to those kids and their Parents...all of them. Unfortunately...or, fortunately, depending on your point of view...we are human...meaning, mistakes and death are inevitable.
God Bless all Georgia Students...no matter the school. 🙏
This entire situation is sad and quite disgusting to me from many aspects.
First, Chandler having a BAC of over twice the legal limit is truly heart-breaking. A 24 year old making a decision like that, to get behind the wheel of a car that has 3 other friends, people that she obviously cherished and cared about and had known for 5 or more years, is explained in so many negative ways and there is no getting around that one decision that cost not only her life but the life of another and possibly the careers of countless others not to mention the sorrow and pain for everyone related to or friends with every single person in that vehicle.. Wreckless, Selfish, Irresponsible, and brazenly immature are just a few words that come to mind. All of the talent that she had that people wrote about and boasted about, her close to 6 figure salary (At the age of 24!!!) as a recruiting analyst and the perks that came with that job, all of the good things that she did and the thousands she influenced on social media at her position with UGA are now completely thrown away and meaningless because she made the conscious decision to consume alcohol to the point of a tipsy or inebriated state and then get behind the wheel of a car with 3 other passengers at the mercy of every decision she makes after turning the keys and putting that vehicle into motion. I will also make the point that the “racing” or driving over 100 mph while clearly drunk are secondary matters that would not be part of this tragedy if not for her decision to drink (enough to have a .19 BAC) and get behind the wheel.
Second, there is a lot of blaming going on with these boards and elsewhere with Jalen Carter’s and Kirby Smart’s name getting thrown around mixed in here and there. A point I want to make about that is a noticeable action I have witnessed with the last 2 generations of young people in our country, me being a Generation Xer. What I have witnessed that is alarming is that in a large majority of cases/ events, I do not see a lot of accountability taking place when people make bad decisions/ selfish and stup1d mistakes. And then the public/ media get ahold of the information and that add to that alarming occurrence by also blaming others or secondary blame depending on their particular worldviews.
Why are we attacking Jalen Carter and/or Kirby Smart? Did those two make the decision for Chandler to drink enough to register 2x the legal limit and also make the decision for her to get behind the wheel and drive Carter’s friends and teammates? Did Chandler “have” to drive over 100mph and “have” to race Carter in a separate vehicle, if in fact that is what occurred?
Why can”t people hold Carter’s feet to the fire with their opinions of the events that happened that evening, once the facts do come out, separate from the tragedy befallen Chandler and Devon Willock? What about the other passengers in the vehicle? What prompted them to get in a vehicle with someone they knew, were drinking with earlier that evening, and let her drive and also not make the 2 second decision to put on their seat belts?
Is anyone accountable on an individual basis anymore for their own actions? There was over 80 football players celebrating with alcohol, probably some drugs, and partying all thru the night that evening. There were over 16 coaches, 12 graduate assistants, 25+ support staff plus another 20+ assistants, not to mention the spouses, girlfriends and boyfriends of those 153 people I just mentioned partying their tails off that evening less than 6 hours after the parade.
There is absolutely no way, no culture stereotype, no rational plan or method of this earth that would have prevented something tragic from happening that evening in Athens with that many people involved, except for MAYBE ONE.:Do not, under any circumstances, get behind the wheel of a car AND/OR get in the car with someone that you know has been drinking. Get on your smartphone, that EVERYONE HAS, and you call an Uber, a friend, a parent, a parent of a friend, a coach that you know doesn’t drink, a staffer that you know doesn’t drink, WHATEVER!
And that ONE thing, that teeny weeny little thing, would have prevented all of the other things that people are slinging around like daggers trying to blame on everyone and everything else, including Jalen Carter possibly being partly responsible because he may have raced with/against the other car that evening while drinking and driving and now may lose millions of dollars in future draft capital on top of the million other tragic things that people lost that tragic night.
I'd also like to point out that Kirby Smart stopped being responsible for these grown people, on January 9th. They are off to the NFL, now. They are former Dawgs as far as the UGA Athletic Department is concerned and free to do as they please....Just to put a little perspective on all this hullabaloo.
Except for Dumas-Johnson. You have to wonder about his judgement...and the judgement of the guys that led him....such as, Quay Walker and Jalen Carter. What's going on with the LBs at UGA? IS Schumann too young to provide the type of leadership these kids need? I don't know...just asking the question.
I pray you never lose a child or loved one to a bad decision they made, a decision no dummer than many you and I have made. How about showing as much respect for these grieving families as you do Kirby Smart?
"I pray you never lose a child or loved one to a bad decision they made, a decision"___
If I were you...I wouldn't presume to know someone else's experience and pain. I have a feeling @Gibroni88, is speaking from experience. I recognize the words. In fact, most people have experienced at least one senseless death of a young loved one, in their life...if they lived long enough.
BTW...If you're gonna call "somebody" or a "decision", "d.u.m.b"...it's probably not a good idea, to misspell it. Lol...jk