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NIL deals help fuel supercharged cars involved in Georgia football speeding incidents

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  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 610 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    back in the day we had entry level V6’s with less than 200 HP. Guess what, those North Georgia country roads were perfect for doing the same thing

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    This is the collateral damage from NIL. We'll probably see more players dying and getting seriously from bad decisions in vehicles. Kirby is in a tough position, but it's the guys offering the deals to the players that maybe need to have a talking to...a 700hp vehicle given to an 18-22 year old that might not have ever driven before. Might as well have given him a loaded gun. But it's the players decision. It's really hard for guys to not want what their friends have.

    A sticky situation that needs to be somehow managed better. Hopefully it doesn't take a player committing vehicular homicide to reign this kind of thing in.

  • jamboogiejamboogie Posts: 235 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Fast cars are fun and have always been something to brag about. Only possible deterrence is to publish the possible consequence from the Athletic department and that the consequences have levels of restrictions/punishment based on the severity of the incident. May be in existence but doesn't seem stringent enough to get attention.

    The you might kill yourself reason probably doesn't work because at that age we pretty much thought we were bullet proof and invisible. Speeding fines might get attention and Parental influence might help diminish.

    If NIL is partly to blame, then maybe the removal/suspension of that for serious offenses could be an answer to be considered by NCAA or the writer of the NIL agreement.

    Pretty much going to all rely on the young men/women to control

  • NorthHallDawgNorthHallDawg Posts: 104 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Hummmm.... Perhaps it should be mandated that they only be allowed to buy and drive Honda Civics; apparently you can only speed in expensive, high-horsepower vehicles. 😉

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,819 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'll admit it's a problem and CKS has acknowledged that and has implemented measures to try to stop it. That said, I'm not sure how CKS is supposed to stop it anymore than any President can stop gun violence short of taking away individual freedoms. Take away their cars and make them ride scooters around town, see how well recruiting goes! THat's basically what you're left with.

    Nothing short of something that silly and that amount of intrusion will stop kids from speeding when they have muscle cars. What are thye supposed to do, drive them like little old ladies? Don't blame Kirby for what NIL and the transfer portal have created. Players today don't have to fear/respect the coaches like they used to because money makes them feel more important than they are and they don't even have to necessarily get along with the coaches as much as they used to because now they can just leave and head for what they perceive is more permissive pastures.

    Coaches today are increasingly going to be asked to somehow insure that 100 young testosterone driven men are going to be able to behave like angels. THat's where this is headed with all the politically correct stuff. It's the being tried in the court of public opinion by a growing body of people who say speech is violence. Don't tell Kirby that, they'll take away his megaphone.

    Coach Kirby Smart will never lose his job over putting togeher a good football product on the field(what he's hired to do) but where he could be at jeopardy of losing his job(not sayng he is now) in the future, which would truly be sad, would be due to the elites believing that somehow Kirby or any other coach is supposed to crack the whip and micromanage these guys so they become perfect people. That's asking a bit too much IMHO. They are going to be who their momma's and dadddies(grand mammas) raised them to be. THey had 18 years. But do wave that magic wand KIrby!

    Even with us adults and the threats by law enforcement of punishment by high speeding tickets and possible jail time, grown as men, do **** stuff. Maybe Kirby can fix the gun violence isse while he's at it. Just make tougher laws, right? Tell that to Chicago.

  • Oldddawg76Oldddawg76 Posts: 393 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I'm just curious. Do you know details of specific players and their NILs to know that they've bought cars at the expense of their families' financial well being? I haven't done research in that depth.

  • doubledawg1990doubledawg1990 Posts: 112 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Good article MG.

    I think all it's going to take is a successful lawsuit (Devin Willock) against the UGA Athletic Association to expose the risk this (accidents related to football players with super-fast cars) poses). Can't imagine it would take much to establish "vicarious liability" for UGA and will result in a BIG $$ payout.

    Not sure how you square players getting NIL money to spend as they like (including risky super-fast cars) and mitigating the associated risk that comes with that for all involved parties. Doesn't seem like sensible choices are being made related to spending NIL money but then again, we're talking about 18-22 males (frontal lobe issues until mid to late 20s).

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,939 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    “Mr. Judd’s article is replete with errors, unsubstantiated allegations, innuendo, and possibly even fabrications. " is part of the 9 page letter. That comment, in itself, serves as proof that there is some truth, some to be substantiated allegations and some substantiated allegations.

    The fact that the UGA attorney letter acknowledges some truth and some substantiated allegations were made would make a lawsuit by UGA a difficult one to win. This was UGA flexing their deep pocketed muscles trying to bury this story. Regardless of what the story is. UGA HAD to say something. Silence would be like admitting the article(s) is true. The LAST thing UGA wants is to go to court and have dirty laundry aired in public.

    Was Judd's article a hit job rooted in the new media standard of sensationalism based on incomplete research? I'd say yes.

    But the point was "because I don’t think what we’re doing right now has been effective enough.” CKS. 2 people died racing and speeding. And people are still racing and speeding. Anyone who says CKS didn't know his players were driving supercharged cars is full of it. What do people do with supercharged cars? They drive fast. The message hadn't gotten through. Maybe it has now after this embarrassing and very big spotlight has been put on the program. Maybe CKS is taking additional steps with actual consequences now after apparently turning a blind eye to what his players were doing w/supercharged cars. When you think about it supercharged cars were a ticking time bomb in the hands of 18-22 year old, fast and furious culture, players. It was short sighted of CKS to not more strongly address this after NIL made it reality. How many speeding tickets have been issued in the last couple years?

    "because I don’t think what we’re (I'm) doing right now has been effective enough.” CKS

    BTW, MG loves throwing this kind of stuff out there to stir the pot. I wonder if he gets a bonus on how many comments he gets? Maybe I should get a kick back?

  • BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "Was Judd's article a hit job rooted in the new media standard of sensationalism based on incomplete research? I'd say yes."

    If UGA Athletic Association and the University of Georgia were not willing to take this fight to court they would not have put out a 9 page letter which has very intimate details of situations with only 1 current player and another 2 former players.

    UGAAA and UGA would not have done that unless they had or felt they had a very strong case. So I disagree with your premise that they are not willing to take it to court. I 100 percent believe they will.

    That being said any normal person with an IQ of your average 3rd grader can read the rebuttal and see Alan Judd is a liar. Surrounding a fact with 3 other misrepresentations is still a lie.

    Retraction to come or lawsuit and retraction to follow. It is obvious Mr. Judd had approval to continue these hit pieces forever so I applaud UGAAA, UGA, the AD, and the coaches for standing up for their players when they are being castigated non-stop. The legal method I'm sure was not wanted but seriously considered and other people involved had to be contacted and warned (other named player and ex-players and their parents/relatives).

    So I'm not sure if you are really a UGA Dad but if you read the rebuttal I would hope you would be sick to your stomach with the hack job Mr. Judd is doing. It would appear to informed observor that lawsuits are in order soon.

  • Classof98Classof98 Posts: 250 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Seems to me that the vast majority of Charger, Challenger drivers are dudes who are clearly trying to overcompensate for another shortcoming.

  • Dawg_OnItDawg_OnIt Posts: 23 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Dropped my AJC subscription back in 2008 because the reporting is shifty opinion stated as fact. Today I just deleted the bookmark for dawgnation.

  • BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Even Paul Finebaum who is part of the media came out and said he tends to beleive Kirby on this one. Matt Barrie and him were discussing the situation and I think Paul was pretty even handed on this unlike some other reporters trying to get clicks. This sounds like the last gasps of the AJC who is dying anyways. Traditional newspapers are the cord phones of the past. Still around but barely.

  • UGA66UGA66 Posts: 4,254 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    FYI Only: Trackhawk generally advertised top speed is 180 mph. The 290 range is the Bugatti Veyron-type ilk. Some hyper cars now eclipse 300 mph.

  • UGADawg_1UGADawg_1 Posts: 1 ✭ Freshman

    Yep, DawgNation and MG are owned by the AJC and playing to the script. There are plenty of other Dawgs new outlets available without the negative editorializing. Goodbye

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