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Do you think its okay for a player to opt out midway through the season?
deutcshland_dawg
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Miss St RB Kylin Hill has decided to forgo the rest of the season in order to prepare for the NFL Draft. A coworker and I just had a little disagreement on this. I was shocked and appalled that a player would do this to his team while my coworker said he has no problems with it. I completely get my coworkers point that he is protecting himself and his possibility of earning life changing money for his entire family. To me it just isn't right. If you want to opt out it should be before the season starts. You don't quit on your team, ever...
Do you think its okay for a player to opt out midway through the season? 69 votes
Yes, gotta get mine
24%
17 votes
No, being a team player still means something
65%
45 votes
Who cares? It's not a UGA player
10%
7 votes
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I'm not going to say they can't do it. But I'll sure think a lot less of someone that does without some extreme circumstances.
I'm not saying take away the option. A person should be able to make their own decisions on what's best for them. I'm just wondering if i'm the crazy one for still believing being part of a team means something.
You can't force someone to play a sport. If they want to quit, they can quit.
I think a better question is can and should the school immediately cancel their scholy? Send them a prorated tuition bill for the remainder of the semester? Or just let it go. I imagine most would just let it go to avoid the headache. But if it became common enough you might see something like that.
My nature is always “there’s more to the story...wait for facts.” I don’t know this guy’s family situation, current health or things he’s had to do to get to this point.
that would be a can of worms imo. Could see a major negative impact in recruiting but it could effect the transfering as well. Send the bill to the new team if they transfer before the semester is over.
I say let people do what they want to do... Now, I know it hurts his team. But isn't going to college, in general, about securing your future? If this young man thinks he's secured his future, who am I to tell him what to do regarding his future?
This really doesn't matter to Miss St. in the long run, if they were competing a little better I believe he'd finish the season out (but they are 1-4 and only Vandy has a worse record in the SEC). A player at UGA, Bama, OSU, etc. with championship possibilities still in front of them will keep playing. Notice how UGA players didn't opt out during the '17 run, but did opt out during Sugar Bowls? It all depends on what the players have left to play for in college. If it isn't much and they see millions waiting on them in the NFL, then they'll work to secure their future. That simple.
Need another button that says need more info. In most cases I’d say play and I think players want to play. But if there’s lingering injuries that could get worse by playing or the team or coaching staff has “quit” then I think you can make an argument for it.
Obviously a player can quit the team at will, but saying that doesn't mean they should.
Every individual has their own story to which we are not privy. There could be something going on that makes this "more understandable."
But, the "q" word applies in this instance. Doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. Doesn't mean it's not the logical choice. Doesn't mean it's not in the best interest of the kid. Doesn't mean there isn't something in the program or staff that has changed.
It's still that word. And I realize that is a "trigger" word. Doesn't change the definition of the word.
If you lie, you're a lier. If you cheat, you're a cheater. I you quit, your a quitter.
If you don't like the narrative that YOU have created through your OWN decisions, wake up tomorrow and change the narrative. That's your freedom, that's your choice, and you have to power to do it.
But don't blame the narrators for calling it as it is. Too many people want to claim the details change the definition of these words that have always meant something. They don't.
Do better next time and fix it, don't complain about the commentary on it...
He also is dealing with a new coach and leach doesn't care about making friends...
He probably didn't like the new scheme and once the **** hit the fan, he didn't see much reason to stay
not to mention the BLM movement that he spoke out strongly against his states response
no point to potentially ruin your NFL career for this Miss St team
Who's complaining about the "q" word? Just curious. Either way, if I'm set to make millions you can call me a quitter all you want. haha
My guess is that he might not stay in school this current term - especially if he has eyes on the league. No need to drop his scholly in that case. If he does finish out the term, I'd let him keep it and then move on to the next stage of his life. The school can't "stash" the money and save it for a rainy day....they only have 85 scholly's and those are around every year.
There is a lot of upheaval at Mississippi State with Leach this year. He's already stated that he would get rid of players that are not doing what he wants. As a RB I can see Hill's point in an air raid system. It looks like Leach is doing the same thing that Morris did at Arkansas, change the entire system without the players suited for that system and then blame the players for your system not working. Look at what Sam Pittman has done at Arkansas by playing a system better suited to the players he had in the program. If you want to totally change your system, do it slowly as you bring in the players you need for that system. So in this sense I really don't blame Hill for opting out in the middle of the season. Especially since the coach has already publicly stated he would dismiss any player that couldn't play his system.
It's not about being called a quitter.
What if, in one hundred years, God let me watch a movie of my life and I was at the scene where I was given the option to leave the team for financial ambition or remain with the team which would postpone and risk my potential millions? Would I be proud of the protagonist?
It's not a clear cut answer to make for myself; What was my true motive? Was their a coach or teammate having a positive or negative influence on my life? Was I a positive influence for a specific person? How will it affect my friends/ family? If money is my primary motive, should it be?
I'm sure I couldn't possibly know if it's right or wrong or even "okay" for someone else to make a complicated life decision.