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Agree. I think Bear really put his own foot in the trap. He’d have fared By Far better at UGA in terms of NFL draft stock. I sure don’t get his decision. By all appearances it looks like he chose the easy route like you said. Oh well he’s gone. I’m hoping Big Baby can learn quicker and ramp up his game. We’ll see……
@navydawg
Yeah, figuring out ways to get Delp involved that opens things up more for Bowers - or because we really don't want Bowers to be half the passing offense and 1/3 of the overall offense like Saturday - will be Bobo proving his worth.
I am not concerned about the DL. We knew that coming in. Clemson won a national title without a dominant DL in 2016. LSU did the same in 2019 as did Alabama in 2020.
I am concerned about the WRs. The guys aren't getting separation and aren't making plays on the ball. UGA has to evaluate Lovett, Thomas, Rosemy-Jacksaint and Bell to see which one has the most potential and just go with him as the third option after Bowers and McConkey. Right now trying to spread it around is just giving too many opportunities to guys who aren't making plays with them. Not just failing to get open and make the catch, but failing to get big yards after the catch the way Bowers did. If the WRs aren't getting separation and aren't getting yards after the catch, then it means you are requiring the QB to make all the plays ... to throw 6 or 7 perfect balls on every single TD drive that isn't set up by a turnover or big special teams play.
Hey guys, I don't know why you are running with the "UGA gave up 200 rushing yards" thing. It is misleading.
First, 61 of the 220 rushing yards came on one play.
Second, 110 of the 220 rushing yards came on 4 plays.
Third, only 95 of the rushing yards were by tailbacks. (102 of UGA's rushing yards were.)
Add it all up and the idea that Auburn had a consistently effective rushing attack against UGA just isn't true. Instead take away the 4 first down runs and Auburn had under 3 yards per carry. So the idea that Auburn was dominating UGA up front, sustaining long drives on the ground, controlling the time of possession (Auburn only had the ball 30:09) is wrong.
Finally, how about giving the defense credit to holding Auburn to 88 yards, 0 TDs and 1 INT passing? That's right.
Take away the 2 turnovers and Auburn scores 2 field goals. 1 of them set up by a 61 yard run.
The Kentucky game isn't going to be easy. UGA playing at home instead of in Lexington may be the only reason they win. But the reason won't be UGA suddenly having a bad or even average rushing defense.
I pretty much agree with you. Except on a couple of notes. With the exception of the INT it looks to me that Rosemy-JackSaint has done pretty well.
On another thread you said he gave up to easily to a defender on the INT. I missed allot of the first half Live TV and haven’t had a chance to get back and see my recording yet. I’ll trust your analysis on that. But that’s only one play.
From what I’ve seen he’s made pretty good catches in traffic. So To Me he’s a guy you want in there. At this particular moment unfortunately we need Bell at RB to much to make him solely a WR again. Hopefully that will change soon. I have a feeling in my very ample gut he Could be a go to guy deep. So essentially I agree with you there.
Lovett initially had a bad case of droppsies. Hit right in the hands an dropped. But he seems to have shaken that off and is doing pretty well at catching short to intermediate passes. But I’ve not seen enough deep balls thrown to him to get a decent idea of what he could do in that capacity.
Same for RaRa. I wonder how bad RaRa’s injury is ?? I’ve not heard anymore on it at this point.
I don’t know what to make of Arian Smith. Some fans blame his deep drops on Beck. Some fans blame it on Smith. Some fans say he’s just a high speed sprinter posing as a WR. Some fans say he’s a legit deep threat WR. I just don’t know how I feel about him This year. I Sure don’t have anything personal against him. And I deeply appreciate his contributions.
I’ve not seen enough of CJ Smith to get a good idea. And even more so on deep balls. Meeks is a stout guy that as best I can tell would be good at short to intermediate passes and you would Hope to see good yards after catch due to his size. I might be missing some guys. So I think you and I are on the same page after all !!
1)Bowers,2)NcConkey,3) Rosemyjacksaint 4) Bell as soon as possible when the RB room is healthier 5) ??? Don’t know I have a feeling, sort of, it’s Lovett, but if RaRa is not seriously injured he will be breathing down Lovett’s back for those throws as the season goes on.
That’s MY thoughts and opinions, but the coaching staff might go with Arian Smith at 4) possibly even permanently and put Bell at 5). To them they might figure Arian is a known commodity. I’ll close by saying Kirby might have to dip his net in the TP for WRs in general including the deep threat variety.
Hey nice job of putting a different but good perspective on that !! Auburn having not one but Two QBs that could run good and threaten with the pass had the Dawgs perplexed. Even though they knew that coming in and practiced for it, at least should have.
They kept rotating the two in and out and it seemed to confuse the Dawgs for some reason.
Now facing Kentucky will be different but a challenge. Davis their RB is a Load !! He’s a certified **** Hog !! I realize he’s not Kentucky’s Only weapon on Offense, but he’s their Primary weapon. And they don’t seem to try to do so much about confusing you, they just run Davis right at you !!
Even though our Dawgs will Know he’s coming he’s gonna be a load to contain. Here’s my Hope though. Playing them in a Rare ( Don’t know WHY that is ??) night game will give UGA an opportunity to showcase their multimillion $$$ lights system they installed a couple of years back but have used very little. Dawgs fans will be absolutely going wild !!! Place should have an electric atmosphere so I think that helps.
Then as Kentucky will be using a more traditional Offense, really it boils down to our Dawgs stopping or trying to stop that Beast RB of theirs. So I would think confusion for the Dawgs wouldn’t be an issue.
If for some reason toward the end of the game Time begins to be an issue. To get a quick score. Dawgs should be in a better position passing the ball to Bowers than they will be running the ball with Davis.
This game is gonna be a tough one, but I think the Dawgs will have the edge and get the W. The “experts” say by 14+ points. I’m not sure if I can be that optimistic. I’d Love that to happen but I’m not so sure that’s realistic. I’d Gladly take 14 points win only, keep the Plus. Your take ?? P.S. Laying that info. out the way you did Does make me feel Some better about our Defensive front. For some reason they’ve had troubles with running QBs this year. I don’t know why.
This might be the first time I almost 100% agree with you. Good post! 🤣👍
Do you think, maybe, it is the lack of deep shots? Beck missed on the throw to Delp to open the game, then, seemingly, we abandoned the deep ball until late in the game. Delp was wide open. Why not try again?
Second, there seems to be an unnatural reluctance on the part of Beck to attempt throws down field that require some touch and some air under the ball. If so, why is that, do you think?
Glad you said this! And I think it was a significant factor in Auburn being able to hang with us for so long. I have never seen a UGA multi-game starting quarterback stare down his receivers so often, and for so long. It's amazing to me that we didn't have multiple INTs.
The odd thing is that I can't recall Beck doing this too often in the past. Certainly he does it more than SBIV, Murray, etc., but not like last Saturday. So, what changed? I'm guessing the environment/crowd-noise was a factor.
As many pundits said after the game (including Herbstreit), Carson Beck "grew up" this game... my big hope is that part of that growth is putting the receiver-staredown habit away. If it doesn't go away, Top 10 defenses (maybe even Top 25) are going to make us pay, especially with a relatively weak defense 🤔
@thadec...you are nitpicking the stats. We had 2 turnovers and gave up several big running plays! You can't dismiss those and say we really didn't play that poorly on run defense. 219 yards rushing is just that and involved the Dawgs giving up big plays. Kirby has said time and again we've got to stop the big plays...and we did not. We hadn't given up over 200 yards rushing in a game since 2018...against a team where we knew they would run the ball but still couldn't stop them. Dawgs are ranked 114th in Red Zone defense. Pitiful.
We need to get real. THey were never going to beat us passing. THey were a one trick pony, and they almost whipped us. Why? Because their QB kept running and we had no answer for it! THis wasn't Bryce Young or Stroud back there throwing darts.
We are over 1/3 way through the season and people are still saying not to worry, we will get better. After 5 games in, I'm not so sure. We may have run out of time to "get better".
After watching Kentucky on Saturday, I can't believe we are a 2 TD favorite.
"Up the middle on 3rd and long" Bobo, is still too predictable. He needs to grow a pair. Maybe Air Raid would loan Bobo one of his.
If this were true (being the next great one) then he wouldn't have left. He was never going to be the next great one here.
I think Hall or Jarrett will start flashing and they both will be great. Plus we got some studs coming in next year and maybe more if Breland and McCray join the fun.
Hot take. Beck looked great. I can't believe how many people are nitpicking a kid who is literally a top 10 qb in the nation this year. Is he perfect. No. Is he da ng good yes. Maybe I'm watching a different game then you guys but he looks like he has ice running through his veins and the only pick he had really was on the receiver who never should let a db take that.
Beck is awesome. You guys need to stop clowning yourselves.
We analyze this D to death. But why? It is obvious that our D line is far less talented this year. It’s also obvious that we are not very good at stopping any run on the perimeter. Nobody seems to have the responsibility of setting the edge on perimeter runs. That’s a major problem.
Fortunately, Auburn is not a very good football team. They basically have no passing attack and their O line is not very good. Nevertheless, Auburn consistently gained significant yardage simply be running wide. We appear to be at least one step slow pursuing perimeter runs.
Now, here comes KY! Guess what, they have a very good O line and a stud at running back. Auburn has neither of those. Unless a major improvement occurs this week, KY will be able to run both inside and outside. KY’s passing attack hasn’t shown much, but Leary is a decent QB.
Conclusion: we better open up the offense and try to out score KY. This being conservative on offense and relying on the defense is not a good plan for the KY game. Come out firing on offense from the get go or watch KY dominate time of possession and wear down a less than stellar defensive front.
We can win this game, but not by running up the middle three times and punting like we did on the first drive againstAuburn.
@dawgfromduluth
First off, the reason why people are saying that the team will get better is because so many guys are injured. The presumptive starting tailback has barely played and neither has the #3 tailback. The #1 WR played for the first time this year, was clearly limited and yet still made big plays. Javon Bullard also missed several games, played clearly not 100% and still led the team in tackles. If you have a case for why having your #1 and #3 RB, your #1 WR and the leader of your defense doesn't make a difference then let's hear it.
Also, I remember 2021. The UGA team that played Auburn and Kentucky early that year would not have beaten Alabama in the NCG. This year, in addition to getting guys healthy, I keep telling you that considering what Bobo wants to do on offense, having a third guy step up in the passing game - whether it is Bell, Delp or one of the transfers - will make a lot of difference because if you can play a guy on each side that defenses can't get away with essentially ignoring then that (plus the running game) opens up a whole lot of space for Bowers. Bowers made a ton of plays on Saturday but they were difficult plays. For UGA to score the points that they need to in order to win this year, they are going to have to become easier plays.
Finally, Beck was a lot better Saturday than he was earlier in the season. I don't have a problem with saying that the Beck who played UT-Martin, Ball State and South Carolina would have lost Saturday. Beck made real strides against UAB and continued to improve against Auburn, particularly when you consider that neither of the turnovers was his fault AND it was a double digit comeback in a conference game on the road with the hostile crowd doing their level best. What evidence is there that Beck won't keep improving? Beck was clearly "throwing guys open" who weren't getting separation and making some very risky passes Saturday. He was also rolling away from the pressure and making plays out of the pocket (unless I am mistaken, he wasn't sacked either). Not saying that the guy is going to be a Heisman Trophy candidate, or at least not this year. But if he stops staring down receivers - which I personally rarely see him doing but everyone else insists is a problem - and starts to connect on vertical passes (some of the misfires were the fault of a young and not particularly exceptional WR group!) wouldn't that be huge?
So yes, teams certainly get better during the season. (Teams also get worse but another story for another day.) I don't see why so many are discounting the possibility - other than not liking who Kirby Smart chose as QB and OC. And this is hilarious ... normally I am the one who dislikes Kirby Smart's decisions and comes on here to criticize him. The one instance where Kirby Smart did something that I agreed with - hiring Bobo to run a pro style offense in an era where virtually everyone else is running the spread which gives UGA an advantage, and were UGA to start recruiting fullbacks again even as part time players it would give them a bigger one, and going with a dropback passer with a strong arm that teams used to defending the spread rarely see anymore in Beck - no one else has confidence in.