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joell
✭ Freshman
DallasDawg:
J. Walter Duncan was the original owner of the Generals who signed Herschel. In a way Herschel may have been "bamboozled" but things turned out well. He was the highest paid pro football player; and he had a "personal services" contract with the owner so he would get paid if the league folded. And Trump purchased the team & gave him an even more lucrative contract.
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NewbombTurk
✭ Freshman
Other than the President not owning the Generals at the time, that's exactly how I remember Mr. Walker's departure, Dallas.
We consoled ourselves by saying he would have been crazy to give SEC defenses thirty shots at his knees every week in his senior season.
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LarryDawg
✭✭ Sophomore
If Jake stays I hope the Jake haters will stay off social media. Or, better yet find another team. Jake is a winner. He's a great kid, a DGD in every way. We will be a much better team next year with him. He will help the younger guys, like Beck, get ready to take over in 2021. Stay Jake, we need ya.
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KBP
✭✭✭✭ Senior
@budknox310, I wouldn't have considered Lawrence a mobile QB until I saw his two runs against OSU. Cardale Jones was the QB when OSU won the Natty and he's definitely not a mobile QB. I appreciate your comment. Civil discussions are one of the best things about this site.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
"Some" say that if Jake wanted to remain at UGA he would have announced earlier not later. Maybe his NFL grade was higher than we imagined. I am not sure about that cause Eric Stokes just announced he is going to remain a Dawg and complete his senior year. Very good news!!!
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Loranwhaddayagot
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Totally agree! Not sure about Lawrence, but I'm 99% sure that Fromm played fewer games than Watson.
Not sure if Lawrence's HS competition level was as high as what Jake played either.
If Fromm and the receivers / TEs will put in the work like LSU did, I know it will pay off! There's just too much talent and potential on this team.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Thought maybe we might hear something after his meeting with Kirby earlier today? Guess not....at least yet. I believe he has until the 20th.
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VenomGA
✭✭✭✭ Senior
If Kirby and James Coley will talk with Fromm about opening up the offense more like what he had in high school, we could be in for an EPIC season especially with the defense we have coming back. But this is the key....OPENING up the offense.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Thank you Kasey. That is true. Herschel was a member of the NJ Generals before Trump bought them. That was not Dallas Dawgs point...I don't think. After Trump bought the team he negotiated with Herschel...if I read about it correctly. Actually, the bigger news then was Trump signing Doug Flutie! Trump liked splash and celebrity recognition to increase ticket sales. It did. For awhile.
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DallasDawg
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I can tell you for a fact that Herschel got bamboozled by then-New Jersey Generals owner, Donald Trump. Herschel did indeed sign with an agent, who told him that he had three days to back out of the deal if he didn't like it. Donald Trump told him the same thing and said he would gladly let Herschel out of the deal if Herschel had second thoughts. (Kind of similar to how you can take a car or an appliance back within 3 days nowadays, no questions asked).
But what both the agent and Trump knew (but Herschel didn't) was that NCAA rules at the time AUTOMATICALLY made a college player ineligible to continue playing, even if said player later came back and said he was no longer interested in turning pro and wanted to come back to school. The rule was pretty ironclad. In other words, even if Herschel had decided that he didn't want to go pro (which, in fact, he did decide that about 24 hours after signing the contract) he still would not have been able to come back to the Dawgs, or any other NCAA institution. It's what's commonly known as having him by the short hairs.
As a result of that option, which was really no option at all, Herschel went ahead and announced that he was leaving UGA to go play for the Generals in the now-defunct USFL. He had no choice at that point. He did quite well his rookie year, but we all are left to wonder what might have been had he been able to return to Georgia for his senior season.
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budknox310
✭✭✭✭ Senior
No disrespect but I wouldn't put TL in that group, he can definitely run, but more of a true pocket passer than the others you mentioned. Put in Tua/Hurts in there instead. But also add the qb for Ohio state, he was also a dual threat.
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UGA66
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
Yeah, was around when Herschel Walker won that natty. He was UGA's best player, and top Dawg...won the Heisman. Interesting what he would say regarding his senior year walk out. We were all crest fallen at the time. He is often over at the practice sessions even now. He has spoken with Jake...count on it. Hershel I'm sure will agree money is not at the root of one's life path. Jake is a prayer warrior....he will get his answer!
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Classof98
✭✭✭ Junior
Maybe Fromm can speak to Herschel Walker. I don't know Walker's exact feelings about it, but he declined a senior season for a $2 million payday from the USFL.
I could be wrong, but I assume Herschel would gladly pay back the money to go back and have a chance at another Heisman and national championship, not to mention setting rushing records that would never, ever be broken.
I want Jake to do what is best for him and his family, but there are some things more valuable than money.
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MidwestDAWG
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
I cant even believe Im reading people saying they hope Jake goes to the NFL so we can "progress" our offense. Jake had us within 1 busted play of a Natty in his freshman year, and played lights out in his sophomore year. You cant lay all of the offensive issues this year at the feet of Fromm. Jake is 1000% the best chance we have to compete for a title next year. If Mathis or Beck or Stetson deserve to start, let them beat out Fromm for that honor.
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FalconUGAFan
✭✭✭ Junior
I hear ya and agree to a point but who better to learn from than Fromm on progressions, work ethic and grit. I hope he stays one more year to help the young Pups and and compete for a Natty.
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Qvox
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
My gut is 99.99% sure Jake Fromm is returning for his senior year.
Why? Because he's a DGD, great leader, and all around good man, who has some unfinished business. If he comes back it can only help him. Next season he'll have all the tools he needs to really shine, and with his leadership on offense, possibly give Dawgnation what's long overdue. If he returns his star is going to shine bright, and his draft stock will rise.
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KBP
✭✭✭✭ Senior
Decision making and accuracy is the cake. Mobility is the icing. I'll take Fromm for one more year over Beck, Mathis, or any grad transfer. There's been 4 mobile/dual threat QB's who've won Natty's in the last 15 years: Vince Young, Cam Newton, Deshaun Watson and Trevor Lawrence. The other 11 were not mobile/dual threat. I'd rather have a mobile QB but that's a preference not a prerequisite to win Natty's.
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kylnmeg10
✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
And now with tua going pro, he may just stick around. Come on back jake and go into Tuscaloosa beat the crimson tide. It may be your final chance.
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randyglass14
✭✭✭ Junior
I'm torn...for next year alone, Fromm back at QB is clearly the best thing for UGA's chances to be back in the CFP given the lack of depth at backup. However, UGA should be able to more easily open up the offense will a more mobile QB (Beck, Mathis, or transfer) which is an urgently needed progression.
