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Pat Dye wants to move Auburn to the SEC East and Missouri to the West....

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    dbrown7494dbrown7494 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I personally don't like the whole let's get 16 teams. Honestly 8 is enough. Until someone can find me a 16 seed that is actually really good and can compete with a 1 seed. I think 8 is just enough and typically the top 8 are very competitive and close in ranking only separated by a few things. I would be worried about not having competitive games. I think playing bowl games should be eliminated and it be home field advantage for playoff. Could you imagine a Sanford stadium having to host a Ohio st., Texas, or a USC on a Saturday in Athens. This would give great match ups. Also makes the regular season matter more. I would allow 1-4 to host and hired seed after that. I would do tickets like pro teams with season ticket holder get first dibs and then open to public. Not this split the stadium in half junk. I would also say let's have playoff games every weekend in December. Not this take 2 weeks. Do the 2 week thing for national championship game.

    Now conference wise I would have the Big 12 dissolve. So we only have 4 power conferences. I would add Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC. Move Auburn and Bama to the East. Also probably swap Missouri and Mississippi st. ( MSU is similar to Auburn in closeness to the East. Probably move a 9 game conference schedule and 3 non conference which 1 would have to be a power 4 team. (Tech) The 9 game would be across the board in college football, along with the one power 4 team. The other 2 games can be whoever. Which I would hope would be "cupcakes" games because they need the big schools money to keep their programs a float. (It would be for the good of college football.)This would preserve many rivilary games. Even would allow Texas to play either Texas Tech, TCU, or Baylor. They could even rotate them if they want to. Also this would renew Texas vs Texas A&m which needs to happen for the good of college football. Then this would allow Oklahoma to play oka st.
    Now I do believe for the guys outside of the top 8 should be in bowl games. They could even play these games during the week we could easily move these to the week after Christmas and the week before the champion game.

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    JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dbrown7494 said:
    I personally don't like the whole let's get 16 teams. Honestly 8 is enough. Until someone can find me a 16 seed that is actually really good and can compete with a 1 seed. I think 8 is just enough and typically the top 8 are very competitive and close in ranking only separated by a few things. I would be worried about not having competitive games. I think playing bowl games should be eliminated and it be home field advantage for playoff. Could you imagine a Sanford stadium having to host a Ohio st., Texas, or a USC on a Saturday in Athens. This would give great match ups.

    App State can beat Alabama on any given day. The saving grace of a 16 team playoff is the winners are conference champions. The potential for great match ups would abound.

    The weakness of 8 team playoff is it still involves rankings and would shut out a lot of FBS conferences. So it would still yield a mythical "national" champion.

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    JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dbrown7494 said:
    Now conference wise I would have the Big 12 dissolve. So we only have 4 power conferences. I would add Texas and Oklahoma to the SEC. Move Auburn and Bama to the East. Also probably swap Missouri and Mississippi st. ( MSU is similar to Auburn in closeness to the East. Probably move a 9 game conference schedule and 3 non conference which 1 would have to be a power 4 team. (Tech) The 9 game would be across the board in college football, along with the one power 4 team. The other 2 games can be whoever. Which I would hope would be "cupcakes" games because they need the big schools money to keep their programs a float. (It would be for the good of college football.)This would preserve many rivilary games. Even would allow Texas to play either Texas Tech, TCU, or Baylor. They could even rotate them if they want to. Also this would renew Texas vs Texas A&m which needs to happen for the good of college football. Then this would allow Oklahoma to play oka st.

    I like the conference realignment you propose. While it is noble (I think) to want to help the FCS schools (by beating the crap out of them), I'm not sure continuing that is best. I lean toward having one such game to begin the season as a tune up with the other being a classic rivalry.

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    dbrown7494dbrown7494 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @JayDog when I said 2 "cupcakes" this was also meaning teams like Georgia Southern (never will be a cupcake), FIU, FAU, and schools like that play in non power five. The FBS schools also do fall in this category. Plus in the SEC how I would have it aligned you would want 2 easier teams just so you can relax a couple weeks out of the year.

    Also I still think 16 is too many. You want the best in college football 16 is like letting anyone in. At the end of most years the 16 seed has four loses. Which to me means they have been beaten by the best in their conference in most cases.
    The "Cinderella team" still can get in with 8 teams but I prefer having the best in college football going at it. Typically the top 8 are the best and will be competitive with each other. If you take out rankings then the regular season wouldn't matter. You got to have rankings. 8 also allows a case for a Georgia vs Bama when both are ranked in top 4 someone not to get screwed in a conference championship game if they lose with 8. A lot of those conference don't deserve to be in a playoff due to strength on conference. Their chance comes with being a 8 or 7 seed if you want them in their.

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    JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @dbrown7494 what I think ruins college football is the rankings. Often they are unfair. They don't always get it right. Competition head to head is the only way to name a true champion. Maybe there could be divisions of teams currently called FBS--like high schools. Though I don't see what criteria they would use.

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    dbrown7494dbrown7494 Posts: 1,372 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think you got to have rankings but redo the rankings. Where 85% of the value is strength of schedule and head to head. Which strength of schedule slides every week based off the teams on your schedule perform. Which makes teams winning matter through the whole year. With another 15% going to performance in game like blowing them out or closeness of game.

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    Silver_BritchesSilver_Britches Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2017

    No! Leave everything as is. And good grief, PLEASE do not add anymore teams to the conference! I still can't get over the fact that we added Missouri and Texas A&M, two non-southeastern schools. If you MUST add other teams, get them from the southeast, for crying out loud. But yeah, I like things how they are. Leave it as is. :)

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    levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited May 2017

    Expanded playoffs is a dumb idea. What makes college football different is the pride and rivalries. Focusing on championships takes away from those.

    One of the greatest games I ever saw was Arkansas defeating LSU one year that LSU already had a spot on the SEC championship game sewn up. If they had had the current playoff system, much less a ridiculous 16 team playoff system, the smart thing for LSU to do would have been not to even play their starters. Just let the benchwarmers play.

    If you want a strict championship system, watch pro football.

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    JayDogJayDog Posts: 5,558 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What I think is dumb is playing any kind of championships--especially a MNC--based on rankings of the news media. The current system is broken and has been broken by big TV money. Many of the sports at the college level play tournaments. College football should be no different. It is silly sentimentality to hold on to a broken system. With a playoff, many old rivalries would be maintained. If we really want to hold on to the status quo, then we should drop any pretense of a national championship and just play for pride. That's not going to happen either.

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