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There may be sports where women could compete well against men or even dominate. I can't think of any, but I'm not trying hard.
Tennis? You've got to be kidding. No woman tennis player has a chance to beat any male professional tennis player. Ace. Ace. Ace. Ace. Game. Set. Match.
That said, I'd much rather watch women's tennis. The men are so good I can't imagine having ever been able to stay on the court with them even back when I was a good tennis player. I played with pros but I always knew they were taking it easy on me so we could keep the ball in play and enjoy playing.
There are several women's sports I enjoy. Number one is competitive cheerleading but beach volleyball is close. Those women are truly great athletes.
Not sure this video is relevant, but maybe it is.
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dawgforever. Your description fit men's tennis during the serve and volley Sampras era, not today's game though. Long rallies with amazing shots are common at the highest level.
TNDawg. No doubt women deserve the same proportional share of the pie as men get.
Denman. I don't think it matters whether a top woman could beat a top man. It's business, the bottom line is how much money is brought in. If women outdrew men and took in more money, they would deserve to be paid more. Just keep it proportional for both sexes. If women bring in 40 million, pay them 40% of that 40 million. Both are made up numbers, just pay everybody the same percentage of what's taken in.
I will also say, if you watch lower weight classes in Boxing and MMA, then that's similar to watching women's sports. Heck, even things like alternate swim strokes in the Olympics is similar.
I think that most people would agree with the intent of this, but in practice there are issues with overhead costs. Staffing a stadium to support an event is a flat cost. The percentage argument ignores that there are some costs that are not a function of revenue.
Please start a roll call if you watch the USA men's team soccer. Bet the roll call is longer for the Women's team. Yes, Men are better athletes, my whole thing was who would you rather watch? You all just take it to another place. Think hard. Who wears the pants in your family? Who sleeps on the sofa if things don't go her way? Need I say more. Puff out your chest all you want. You know.
And I’d bet your wrong on the roll call. I’d rather watch the men’s team. Maybe those that don’t understand soccer would rather watch the women play.
If you sleep on the sofa....turn in the man card. Reason I bought a king size bed a large pillows. Not a man if you can't stay in the same room....
With this said, I'll stick to the topic and regardless of gender, pay should be equal across the board...
The nice thing about message boards are the differing opinions where sometimes there isn’t a right or wrong. THIS is not such an example.
I’ll take your bet. TV ratings for US soccer were down drastically for both men and women in 2018 - 47% for men and 20% for women. Yet, even with a much bigger drop, the men’s team still averaged @130,000 more TV viewers per game than the women.
I can't remember the last time I voluntarily watched a women's sporting event of any kind, other than my niece's softball games, and that is an act of love.
The reason USWNT dominates on the world stage is Title IV. That changed everything. Americans put way more money into female sports than other country's do. By law. And the results prove it works.
Womens tennis was bigger than the mens game for a time.
But you are correct sir. Its basic biology. Men are faster and stronger.
That can be built in without a doubt. The difference in pay, when you exclude market factors was still 10 fold.
ugax. The only reason a flat percentage of proceeds might not be transferable from men's to women's events would be profit margins. Otherwise the same staging expenses apply to both, other than larger crowds costing more to manage. That would likely be more than offset by larger crowds producing more revenue.
There are too many references to what posters like and don't like in this thread. It's a quantifiable issue .
It's a business/accounting issue, not a social issue. Just like you do other businesses, pay in accordance to profits generated.