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The virus incubation period is on average 4-5 days and sometimes extends to 14 days or can be as short as 1 day.
"For persons who are exposed, the standard of care is observation and quarantine." second sentence in the background.
That dosing of chloroquine is actually pretty aggressive taking it every day at that level. You can't compare it to other medications like that.
There is no strong evidence zinc is going to stop covid in its tracks. Most studies on zinc show it has some beneficial effects for immune cell differentiation and it may have some effects on viral replication.
I thought this was interesting for the vitamin D/CV discussion. I sorted the states based on deaths per million (column three from the right). This is down to the US overall average of 443 per 1M. Notice how many southern states are in the higher than average states in deaths per million--only two. Another way of looking at it is deaths per positive cases. MS is ~ 2.99% and LA is 3.6%. NY has a whopping 7.4% of cases who died. NJ is at 8.6%. CT is over 9%! Most of these states with exceptionally high death rates experienced them last winter. They all have younger populations than FL and the Sunshine State is currently less than 2%! Most of the northern states that aren't in the higher stats region have very low case loads and the virus just hasn't flourished there.
Updated Florida testing for the last 7 days
The highlighted area are the daily change in cumulative numbers provided to JHU and CDC.
Pure coincidence, right?
“Some beneficial effects for immune cell differentiation and it may have some effects on viral replication.”
Seems like those would be helpful, especially the part about reducing viral growth.”
Pharma needs something they can turn in to big profits, not stuff you can buy OTC.
Some beneficial effects isn't a treatment especially when it's in a dish of cells.
SMH.
What is the current outpatient treatment for Sars-Cov-2, per published CDC Guidelines?
Would it be responsible to make the current outpatient treatment something that hasn't been proven to be effective?
Keep this in mind when reading about potential "treatments"
I bet it would be **** funny watching you try to shoot a petri dish with a firearm.
The reason you don’t have an answer is because the answer is NOTHING.
The CDC does not recommend any kind of outpatient treatment for this virus. The only thing they recommend for hospitalized patients is a steroid to help with inflammation until they are REALLY sick. Then remdesivir.
Think about that. They won’t even suggest something as simple as making sure the patients body is up to speed on something as basic as Vit D.
That’s after “studying” it for 6 months.
All they GAS about is finding a vaccine. There are many examples of doctors around the World using various treatment protocols to help people, but they all get poo-poo’d by the medical and academic community up there in the NE.
Why is that?
A: Capitalism.
Because nothing has been shown to be effective yet. Clinical trials are being done with zinc and other supplements that have been thrown around. Making sure you have the proper amount of vitamins and minerals is important for overall health but its irresponsible to say it's a treatment or prevents disease without solid evidence to back it up. Vaccines have been the most important advancement in public health of course they are going to for that. That's the best way to stop a virus.
Capitalism is not the problem. This scenario requires human beings who are not good people. In a socialist World, those same people would control which products the Government approved. Same outcome.
Here's hoping Jonas Salk 2.0 is on the vaccine case
What you mean to say is that nothing has met the incredibly high and ever moving invisible bar set by “them.”
Treatments have shown success, but they’ve kicked it down the road every time. Meanwhile, the vaccine trials progress at warp speed with advanced contracts to purchase more doses than we have citizens.
The Pfizer deal allows for up to 600 million doses. $2 billion for the first 100 million. I assume the plan is to give away the rest to some other poor undeveloped country that doesn’t really need it because their people will already have immunity.
It's at least a two dose course.
I'm part of "them" and there isn't a moving invisible, bar. The gold standard for medical treatments has always been a large RCT and drugs aren't considered effective until they go through that process.
What is your threshold for evidence that a treatment is effective?
I’m gonna assume this was a joke.
Only partly. if they make and sell a vaccine that is going to be $$ so that has more than likely incentivized the making of a vaccine rather than other treatments other posters have been touting. High demand, low to medium supply (i'm guessing)...another great american business success story.
Or...capitalism.
You don’t see the utter and complete failure of your efforts, being part of “them?”
You don’t see the complete hypocrisy of fast tracking a vaccine for the next phase after only 45 people, after making such a statement regarding the “Gold Standard.” Why are the vaccines being pushed through so quickly? Because this is a pandemic and a major World medical emergency, right? One problem - treatment protocols are given the same priority. Instead the suggested remedy is....NOTHING! GIVE THE PATIENT NOTHING!
There was a study involving more than 45 people in which ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of all patients in the ICU were Vitamin D deficient.
Found to be statistically insignificant and (I believe you said “weak”). 100%? Vitamin D is freaking basically FREE, but those greedy people in the “them” category have to roadblock even something as simple as that because we need to VACCINATE every living person and capitalize on all of the pharma stocks they’ve been buying.
I can imagine the conversation, “Well gosh. There are just too many variables with this vitamin D thing. I mean...what if we administer the D and the patient dies? Or worse yet...LIVES!!! “(Laughter all around the room.)
I guarantee everyone on this board that if YOU tested positive for Covid, you would immediately start taking vitamin D, Zinc, and probably NAC before you would just wait around to see if you get sick enough to be hospitalized. You may already be taking them.
Yeah, we agree then that CDC is steering toward a vaccine. That’s govt doing that, the complete opposite of capitalism. Any “private” company in bed with the CDC has nothing to do with a free market either. But from what I’ve seen it’s the NIH and their affiliates that probably get the widely produced vaccine for US. I’ve been saying for months, let’s just get Fauci and his boys their money and move on with our lives.
The vaccines are going through clinical trials as well. The first two phases don't involve many people and the third phase is the large one.
I get it man. You're scared, frustrated, and don't understand what's going on and you want to believe that this is a conspiracy orchestrated by evil people to make money and hurt certain political groups. That means there is order in the world and you wouldn't have to accept that the world is messy, chaotic, and dangerous and sometimes things like pandemics just happen.
Don't worry. We're all gonna get through this.