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  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    You intentionally whiffed on understanding. I was talking about lockdowns in America.

    No one has ever suggested locking down like China. Everyone knew that only worked because of their totalitarian government.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Let's just chalk it up to a misunderstanding and move on. Thanks in advance.

  • BumBum Posts: 2,710 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm not trying to play a victim, only trying to understand if what you really want is a different thread devoted to economic impact. Because my (and tens of millions of others) personal impact of COVID is economic (so far anyway)...as a direct result of government policies, so by definition political. I see no way of voicing my personal impact from COVID and avoiding topics seen as political.

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Just making sure the "liberal America hater" **** doesn't start

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2020

    No, economic impact is real and a valid topic for how we should address COVID-19. I was referring to the political aspect of "how much government control is too much" that's a separate topic.

    Edit: most democratic countries knew we would not respond the same way as china, so there really isn't a reason to discuss it as it was never an option.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I’ve noticed a trend with their reporting. They like to use dramatic verbage, such as “staggeringly high” to describe a total that represents a small fraction of the population.

    The question I would want to ask is regarding the statement

    “The number of cases with hospitalized patients with confirmed cases of covid hit an alltime high...”

    You also see this with Florida Florida reports 400 new hospitalizations a day under one metric. Then the CDC says 9400 Floridians are in the hospital WITH covid. We know the average stay was 11-14 days back in April Now it is under 5 days . So even at 400 (which is a recent growth trend) times a 14 day stay, that’s only 4800 patients if NOBODY gets released

    So this is just the media AND the dang CDC playing tricks with numbers by including all of the people who are admitted for something different but test positive. They ALL get labeled as a covid hospitalization It is an effective scare tactic

  • UGA_2019UGA_2019 Posts: 157 ✭✭✭ Junior

    So according to the article, less than one third reported headaches. Great detective work, champ. Really groundbreaking stuff.

    Also from the article: “Although headaches have been reported with the donning of objects with straps, such as helmets (8, 9), goggles (10) and brassieres (11), its association with the N95 face-mask have not been previously described”

    This just in: PPE is unhealthy because it can cause headaches. What a headline. I guess no one should ever wear PPE.

    Do you ever read past headlines? I swear this is like the third or fourth time I’ve asked you this.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Intentionally? Glad you can speak so clearly to someone else's point of view.

    A point was made that lockdowns = 100% reduction in cases. Which I agreed with, but my point was that 100% reductions can't be our only goal - otherwise we might as well be evil China and Fahrenheit 451 everyone who tests positive.

    You then went straight to Portland, and said we needed to discuss it if we were gonna talk oversight - a very direct comparison added to the discussion.

    You never said anything about lockdowns in America - which left your comment AT BEST ambiguous.

    So, I am not sure...

    Your points are usually very spot on, and great reads. I missed any connection - then looked back and there was none.

    My point was that lockdowns aren't the end-all because of unintended consequences. Pretty uncontroversial response to a stat about lockdowns. You went "Portland" with no context. My opinion - bad take for someone who usually does better.

    No nefarious undertones intended, even if it's your default thought to think so...

  • YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I also never said anything about lockdowns in china either. The term "lockdown" has been used for many countries' responses including Europe and the USA and isn't specific to china. Let's attribute this to a misunderstanding and move on.

  • Canedawg2140Canedawg2140 Posts: 1,832 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sure...

    Go Dawgs.

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 5,328 mod

    The MSDH (Ms. Dept. of Health) which is the only agency that is allowed here to release daily figures, below is a link to how they get the numbers scroll down some.....


    https://www.wlox.com/2020/07/21/new-covid-cases-new-deaths-reported-tuesday-mississippi/

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Interesting that LTC figures are included. I think that information tells a bigger story.

    They didn’t really cover the hospitalization thing. I’d like to know who is in the hospital because of Covid vs with covid.

  • dawgnmsdawgnms Posts: 5,328 mod

    Hospitalizations

    The majority of people who get COVID-19 will not require hospitalization, say health officials. As of July 20, there were 943 people hospitalized with confirmed infections in Mississippi, which is the state’s highest number of hospitalized patients. The number of patients in ICU also increased from 284 to 293. Of those, 140 patients are on ventilators, which is three less than the day before.

    Look at the chart below the above statement is all I can say. They are just being the messenger for the entire state as hospitals report directly to them and no one else.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yep. You are reading it exactly the same way as me. I’m

    I’m not asking you to defend the article. Just pointing the murky way this is being reported.

    Hospitalized with covid does not mean they went to the hospital because of covid.

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