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Bubba Bill you don't have much faith or trust in the UGA OL. I think they can and will play better. The beauty of JTD is that he makes the 2nd read before the ball is snapped. He already knows what he has before the ball is snapped. In the time it takes SBIV to do his read and react, JTD makes 3 reads. Navy, What happened to the D vs Bama won't happen vs MI. MI will be tried and true to what got them this far. THAT'S where Saban is different. He saw how UGA played vs formations and routes and then changed those routes. Saban had the UGA D completely confused. Guys were running open all over the field. UGA D especially DB's must step up big the rest of the way. MI will be a tough game. Top OL and good QB. Hate to think AAnderson's immaturity/poor decision making will cost UGA a championship.
"A deeper dive into advanced metrics shows Bennett has six first-down runs on 11 third-down rushing attempts vs. SEC teams. Bennett also has been sacked six times on the 65 third-down plays he didn’t handoff in league play."
I'm sorry, but this is too favorable. They mention his rushing on third down, but don't mention his passing on third down. On third down, against all opponents (including the patsies), he's 26 of 51 with 15 first downs, 4 TD, and one Int. Rushing on third down against all opponents is 17 attempts for 60 yards and 6 first downs.
So, his combined 3rd down conversion rate is 21 (22 including the TD) first downs out of 68 attempts, or less than 1 out of 3. That's not good.
Compare that to the quarterback for upcoming Michigan, Cade McNamara. His passing on third down is 50 of 80 for 30 first downs, 6 TD and on Int. Rushing he has twelve attempts and 4 first downs. The total is 54 of 92, or 58.6%.
Nobody is out there talking about Cade McNamara being a top tier quarterback. He's a game manager, too, with only 100 yards more in passing than Bennett, hence the comparison.
To see what "good" looks like, check out Bryce Young. On third down, he is 81 of 113 with 60 first downs, 14 TD and 4 Int. In rushing, he has another 28 attempts with 7 first downs. So, his third down conversion rate is 72.3%.
I'll repeat what I've been saying since the middle of 2020: If Stetson Bennett is the best option UGA has at QB, there is something seriously wrong in that quarterback room.
"If Stetson Bennett is the best option UGA has at QB, there is something seriously wrong in that quarterback room."
Truth.
Even with Fromm / Eason / Fields, the QB situation did not dominate all discussion boards and comment threads. The QB situation dominates now because it is obvious to everyone that the gameplan defies logic. Compounding the issue s CKS's refusal to show his cards. Is JTD still injured? Why keep SBIV in every blowout after half instead of getting reps for Beck and Brock? All the eggs in one basket just does not make sense to us, the football audience - we recognize that we are not coaches or even experts, but we have a clue about the game. CKS may need to keep the edge of mystery for his opponents . . . if so, we'll understand as long as he explains after the season. In the meantime, we'll speculate and gripe and grumble against a strategy we don't understand. If he never explains, candidly, the skepticism will only grow.
OK. Let me ask you a question ( No sarcasm at all just asking). Assuming the Dawgs get the W vs Michigan which I have a gut feeling Will be a very tough game. And ( Nothing is impossible) I Sure don’t see Cincy beating Bama !! CAN Kirby FIND Some way, Some how to Finally beat the “Ole Fox” Nick Saban ?? I’m gonna ask You and anyone that wants to chip in their deep and completely Honest trying Very Hard to lay aside all homerism. WILL our beloved Dawgs beat both Michigan & Bama ?? If Yes then Why ?? My humble Take is the Dawgs will beat Michigan in a Tough, Hard Fought, Nail Biting, Hat Slinging contest. Bama ?? I’m just not sure. I WANT to Believe, I Really do. But I’m starting to think Saban has Kirby’s number Much like Kirby had Dan Mullen with the exception of one loss. Thanks UGADad for your response and take !! Look forward to Yours and Any Dawgs fan response & take on my questions.
NDawg Saban has EVERYBODY's number. Dabo only beat him because he had the best QB's in CFB. AND THEN it took an illegal pick play on the last play of the game for Clemson to score a TD and beat BAMA. As long as Saban is at BAMA recruiting #1 classes (AND now cherry picking the TP for 5*'s) everybody else is playing for 2nd. IF UGA had Gilbert, TSmith, AAnderson, TRatledge, GPickens AND could convince more of their best players to stay 4 years (a la BAMA) then UGA would have a better chance. Sunshine beat BAMA because he was able to pick them apart. Maybe JTD can do that to this AL D. The UGA we saw vs AL is not the real UGA. The AL we saw vs UGA is the real AL. Margin for error is extremely small. It will take no mistakes and better play all around especially at QB.
@Hemingwey...There is some truth to that, BUT right now the FCS is in the middle of their expansive playoffs (semifinals this weekend), so I don't see their education or holiday activities as any less important than in the FBS world. A little reshuffling of exams, schedules, etc. may need to be done when our playoffs inevitably expand.
Like I said. Saban has everybody's number. Richt ain't coming back. Saban will probably retire in 3 years. How many championships did Saban and Spurrier win in their 1st 6 season? CKS is growing in knowledge and experience. He is a great recruiter in a talent rich state. He is in his dream job (remember LRiley?). Who are you gonna get that is better? This is CKS team and I am happy to back him. I believe CKS will get Saban before Saban retires. If not UGA is building the belief that UGA is the 2nd best program in the country. It could be worse.
Thank you UGADad and tcs59 for your responses. In different ways y’all said similar things. The main take away is that At Least at this juncture Saban has Kirby nailed. And the Only way that Kirby can shed that is to Beat Nick Saban. UGADad you described very accurately what I had Hoped for and Expected to See in the SECCG. A very close game with No margin for error. Instead I saw Kirby and Dawgs destroyed !! And Not Only was Kirby unwilling to make changes In Game at the QB position he apparently wasn’t willing or Didn’t Have answers for adjustments to the Dawgs Defense either. To tcs59 Yes I absolutely believe Mark Richt could have Won 1 possibly 2 National Titles in the Earlier part of his tenure under Two conditions 1) That the powers back then at UGA threw all the $$$ at him as they Have with Kirby ( though Yes I’m Very glad that they have ponied up the $$$) 2) Had there been a Play Off system back then Instead of the Heavily Biased Bowl Committees at the time. Georgia was blatantly Cheated by those Bowl Committees of at least One National Title Opportunity possibly even Two. I challenge any HONEST Dawgs fan to go back and Look at Mark Richt’s first Seven years and give an Honest take. PLUS Richt beat Saban when he was at LSU and at Bama though only one game there. Am I trying to just bash up on Kirby ?? NO !!! But in my humble opinion he Does need to look in the mirror at HIMSELF and ask I demand Elite and the ability to be flexible and adapt from my coaching staff and players what about ME ?? Am I placing the Same demands on myself ?? I cannot think of ANY Logical reason that he didn’t give the backup QBs more time in Many of those Blow Out wins in regular season. And When Ever JT was found to be pretty much fully healthy Why No playing time for him ?? If Kirby honestly believes Stets ( with ALL due Respect to Stetson) is The Man, Period, what would happen, past and future tense if Stets got badly injured ?? It just doesn’t make sense in any capacity to Not have another one of your QBs BETTER Prepared in the event of injury to the starter. Also as has been pointed out repeatedly Saban has beat the Dawgs Twice by changing QBs IN GAME ( which really rubs the salt in). So once it looked like it was pretty much game over what would have been the harm in bringing in JT just to SEE what he could have done ?? If JT came out there and was a total flop then the vast majority of Dawgs fans would have said Well guess we see now Why Kirby is sticking with Stets. But if JT came out and did pretty good, then what is it ? Kirby to proud to admit he made a wrong decision ?? For the record I have defended Kirby on here All regular season for playing Stets in front of JT !! But in the back of my mind I always had the haunting question WHY are the backup guys not getting more snaps In Particular JT ?? In conclusion of this novel IF being Stubborn is Kirby’s Achilles heel he needs to Recognize it and Change it or some where down the road (waaay down the road) it could lead to his Leaving UGA in a very bad way !! Saban is NOT stubborn and will take High risks to win. And it seems that 99% of the time his (calculated guesses) risks have paid off !! Still very thankful for Kirby. Still trust him. But he Needs to recognize that Something is broken and Needs repair regarding his playing against Nick Saban. Let’s Hope he gets another shot at Saban on Jan 10. And let’s Hope that Kirby has it figured out and This time gets the W !! Gotta a Big handful with Michigan first though.
Amen to that !! Things Can be much, much worse !! See the Ray Goff years !! Great guy, terrible Head Coach !! Just wish Kirby could make adjustments and beat Michigan ( which is Not a given by any stretch, Dawgs better take care of business), then beat Saban and Bama Finally. Man you talk about a bunch of Happy Dawgs Fans !!! Wow !!! This whole state would be rockin and rollin !! And the SECCG would be in a Very large part Forgotten bitter memory. Thing is there’s Still plenty of room for Hope. But Kirby has Got to be willing to pull out all stops AND be willing to Step Out of his “Normal” thinking. He and Saban spent so much time together. Saban is his mentor. The Only way he’s gonna beat Saban is to catch him by surprise by thinking out of the box. Let’s all Hope. It would be just Awesome if Kirby could pull it off !! Go Dawgs !!
Jimbo beat him and a couple of teams you wouldn't thave thought would give him problems did. WE didn't.
@navydawg @UGADad20 ...
Bama's Saban does have everyone's number but remember this....Ole Miss has beaten Saban twice, Texas A&M has now beaten Saban twice, and LSU has beaten Saban....as you'll note, not a single team from the SEC EAST has beaten a Bama Saban team.
And the last and funniest thing is the one head coach that has beaten a Nick Saban Bama team more than anyone.....Gus Malzahn @ Auburn....3 times...and they fired him!!
Though he’s not a current HC, Mark Richt beat him at LSU and at Bama. I’m not sure on this next part but Richt Might be the only SECE coach to beat Saban at Both LSU & Bama. Course I bitterly remember the payback Saban gave Richt and our Dawgs at the infamous Blackout game to. Kirby needs to break the cycle and beat Michigan ( I hope our fans don’t underestimate the Wolverines, that’s gonna be a very tough game) Then beat Bama. You know the Ole Christmas song All I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front Teeth ?? Well I’d bout be willing to give up one of my crowned teeth to Kirby if he can beat Both and bring in the National Title !! Can he do it ?? Will he do it ?? Sure hope so. I’m Way Beyond Sick of Saban, the Tide, and their Arrogant fan base. I might have to go to the hospital with cardiac problems IF Kirby can pull this off !! Go Dawgs !!
LSU? You mean LSU's all time greatest team from '19 that only beat BAMA because they had the ball last? That LSU team? aTm did not beat the SECCG BAMA that UGA played on 12/4. The BAMA team that got shutout for 3Q's vs AU was not the BAMA team that rolled up 300 offensive yards IN THE 2ND Q vs UGA in the SECCG. You might catch a BAMA team overconfident or flat during the season but when it is the SECCG or playoffs you can expect a well prepared and motivated team to show up. And a team that has more blue chip players than its opponents. The Saban that coached at LSU is not today's Saban. He has evolved, improved and so have his teams. Coach Youst to Coach Boone, "he's on to your game. You gotta throw something at him he's not ready for."
That IS True that Saban wasn’t nearly as experienced when Richt beat him once in Athens when Saban was at LSU. Then again when Saban was in his first year at Bama. I was just saying that from a hysterical Lol oops historical standpoint. But you are spot on UGADad. To beat Saban Kirby MUST think out of the box. Have a game plan that doesn’t look at all like the “normal” Kirby. But the Big question is Is Kirby Willing to do that vs Saban ? If he’s Not then he probably will Never beat a Saban coached Bama. Ole Saban knows what Kirby is thinking all the while. Sure would be Awesome to see Kirby beat Michigan using the Normal Kirby way. THEN totally surprise Saban with a completely different approach !! UGA has Very talented players in all areas of the game. So IF Kirby could come up with a Competent but New or maybe just Different twists that Saban wasn’t expecting. Saban CAN be beat. It just takes the right recipe. Auburn came Very close with inferior talent as compared to Both UGA and Bama. Kirby has challenged his entire program to be Elite. Perhaps it’s time ( past time actually) for Kirby to take a hard look at HIMSELF !! NOTE: I am Ultra Super Glad and Thankful that Kirby Smart is the HC at UGA. I think there will be Numerous bright & wonderful days, months, and years ahead for him and UGA. I just would dearly LOVE to see him win it All THIS year !! Maybe it’ll happen. I sure Hope so !! Thanks to all y’all for the feedback on my questions and comments. God Bless & Protect yall and families. My family and I wish You and yours a Very Merry Christmas !!
Unfortunately, the only way we will see a change in QB is if one of Michigan’s defensive ends injures SB. Otherwise, wash, rinse, repeat.