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Closer look: ESPN draft rankings love Jalen Carter and Arik Gilbert, snub Stetson Bennett

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edited August 2022 in Article commenting
imageCloser look: ESPN draft rankings love Jalen Carter and Arik Gilbert, snub Stetson Bennett

ATHENS — The 2022 NFL Draft process was a four-month commercial for Georgia, sending the message that Kirby Smart and his staff can choose and develop talent.

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  • BubbaBillBubbaBill Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree that Bennett doesn’t have the traditional “eye-popping” stats that we routinely see with Heisman finalists and NFL draft picks. BUT, I find it interesting that little attention is given to the QBR which rates the Mailman among the top 3 or 4 QB’s and it doesn’t even factor in his running and leadership abilities. It will be interesting to see how this all pans-out in January. There’s a real possibility that Stetson finishes the season as the #1 or #2 rated QB according to the QBR….especially now that he has (finally) been practicing with the starters for a year and is surrounded (in my opinion) by more offensive talent than last season. Also, what if he picks-up at least 1 more win and MVP in the playoffs to add to his 2 last season? Look up the definition of the Heisman Trophy and you will clearly see it would be quite difficult to not have him as a finalist even if he doesn’t throw for 10,000 yards or rush for 2000. Of course, more eye-popping stats wouldn’t hurt his cause, but then some fans would be complaining that Kirby didn’t play the back-up QBs enough to get them more experience. Oh well, we need to worry about Oregon and not all the “what ifs”. Go Dawgs!!!

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2022

    @BubbaBill...QBR is an ESPN invention. It's not perfect, and it doesn't take into account intangibles and tangible things like height and weight. If Stet makes it to the NFL, his arm strength, accuracy, and decision making will be paramount factors in his success. I agree with you- Stet is surrounded by a better and more complete offense this season as compared to 2021. He's setup for more success.

    Let's just look for a moment at how Stet compares just to past UGA QBs: (remembering which factors are most important in the NFL)

    Bennett is eighth in program history in passing yards, 2,031 yards behind Mike Bobo, 2,146 yards behind Quincy Carter, and 3,430 yards behind Matthew Stafford. Bennett is sixth in program history in touchdown passes, 12 behind Matthew Stafford, 28 behind Eric Zeier, and 33 behind David Greene. His 160.6 career passer rating is the best all-time in program history among quarterbacks with 400 or more pass attempts. In touchdowns accounted for, Bennett is seventh at 43 touchdowns, three behind Carter, 14 behind Stafford, 28 behind Zeier, and 36 behind Greene.

    This is not even looking at other teams or the entire football landscape. It will be interesting to see where he sits at the end of this season.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Mike Griffith at it again. Last year KMilton was "the most skilled RB on the team" being "held back" by ZWhite . This year it's KMcIntosh.

    UGA had 4 RB's to feed last season. They all needed touches. You don't throw to ZWhite when you have JCook and you don't run JCook up the middle when you have ZWhite. That is just smart coaching. Playing RB in the UGA O is much more than running "skills" or receiving "skills". Protection (watch a replay of SBIV's 40 TD pass in the CFBCG), ball security, knowledge of the O, durability, toughness are all very important "skills" needed by RB's in the UGA O. Face it MG, ZWhite was the best (most skilled) all around RB in the UGA room last year.

    ZWhite was the most dependable, consistent, best prepared, toughest runner on the team. Had he not been he would not have gotten the game reps he did. KMcIntosh will be very hard pressed to surpass ZWhite's 856 rushing yards as RB1 this season.

  • MikeGriffithMikeGriffith Posts: 3,661 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @UGADad20 interesting take, let's see how it plays out! Should be a fun season

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  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,360 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The Heisman Trophy and NFL Potential are two completly different things, which explains why there are so many Heisman Winners that wind up as NFL busts or perpetual Back-up QBs.

    The Heisman is supposed to be given to the Most Valuable College player that exemplifies good sportsmanship and classroom achievement. In other words,, a role model. Since there isn't always a clear cut leader in that department, it usually goes to the STAT Leader...which has very little to do with value to the team.

    Bennett deserves consideration for the Heisman as much as anybody on the list. Can he, or Young, or any of the other QBs on the list, be successful in the NFL? It's impossible to know for sure, but, this season will answer that question.

    If Bennett can't succeed with all the weapons at his disposal and the support of possibly the best offensive coaching staff in the Nation, his career as a Football Player is probably over after 2022. However, from what I've seen, that won't be the case.

    He has one of the best long balls and touch-passes, I've ever seen. He hits his target over the middle, in tight qtrs, consistently. He has a knack for putting the ball where only his receiver has a realistic shot at catching it. He had to, because his receivers have had problems getting separation. Most of his passes last year were "contested throws". He hasn't had the distinct advantage of throwing to the likes of Waddle, Smith, Riggs, Williams, Metchie, Jeudy, Ridley...etc.. He had a banged up WR room in 2020 & 2021. His best and most available WRs, last year, were Jermaine Burton, AD Mitchell (Fr) and Ladd McConkey (RS-Fr). Burton was nothing "special". Not in the same league with the aforementioned BAMA WRs.

    Bennett, WINS. Outside of the occasional hiccup pass, he is one of the most consistent and successful QBs in College Football. All QBs have the kind of miscues he's had...but, for some reason, he's been under a microscope, since he took the field in 2020. Joe Cox wasn't vilified as much as Bennett has been and there's no reason for it. His 3 losses over the past 2 years are nothing to be ashamed of.

    In 2 yrs, lost to BAMA twice...but, 1 was a Championship game and he scored 24 points, both times. Not exactly shutouts. His other loss came against FLA, after he was injured on his 2nd TD of the 1st half. He had a 14-0 lead at the time he injured his throwing shoulder. The only backup UGA had to replace him with, was an inexperienced D'Wan Mathis. Result....LOSS. Not his fault.

    These media guys selecting J. Gibbs and J. Burton that high on their respective position lists, tells you everything you need to know about the out-of-wack BAMA prognosticators and how deep their noses are in Saban's butt. LOL. Burton, is not that good...Sorry. Who will they blame for getting it so wrong, when BAMA loses 2 or 3 games this year? And, 1 of their losses may be to Texas in week 2.

    Talk about intangibles...how do you think BAMA's veteran players, that have been waiting their turn, feel about those Transfer guys getting all the press and opportunity? I smell discontent brewing in the BAMA locker room.

    Are you telling me, that the mighty BAMA had to go to the transfer wire, to bring in a competent WR, RB, OT and DB? And, those guys are better than anybody else on their team...at that position? C'mon...their apparent lack of depth and porous OL with a "pocket passer"...along with a very tough SEC West schedule, should be good for at least 1, if not 2 regular season losses. God help em, if Young has to run with the ball...that's not in his wheelhouse and could result in injury. They may not even win their Division this year. LOL

    BAMA's premature 2022 greatness and UGA's undervalued and underestimated 2022 potential, as projected by the biased media...will fade like a thick ocean fog on a sunny Winter's day, once the season starts. As we reach high noon in the 2022 season (GAvFL) and the fog begins to lift, UGA will be on top and BAMA will be exposed.

    I expect a surprise to come from the West. It will be a surprise, cause nobody has covered or picked any other team to win the West, besides BAMA, in...I don't know...12 years or so. LOL

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Stetson Bennett will not be an NFL draft pick! I'll be content if he can just get us back to the CFP. Go Dawgs!

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