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Cormani McClain decision puts greater microscope on Georgia football-Florida recruiting gap

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edited October 2022 in Article commenting
imageCormani McClain decision puts greater microscope on Georgia football-Florida recruiting gap

If you want to know why Georgia football is a 22.5-point favorite over Florida on Saturday, you only need to look back to the closing remarks made by Kirby Smart after last year’s 34-7 win over the Gators.

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  • jdatl3jdatl3 Posts: 365 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Hard to understand why we are still playing the Florida Georgia game in Florida's back yard. It makes zero sense. Sure, we make a few million on the game, but UGA's football program brings in a hundred million. You are putting all that at risk for a few million. You only have six or seven games to recruit in your stadium. It's like the Athletic Director can't count...

  • jdatl3jdatl3 Posts: 365 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
  • doubledawg1990doubledawg1990 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Bring the better recruiting results and economic impact back to Athens/Clarke County and Georgia. While UGAA loses out on $3.3 million, it gets an additional major recruiting weekend in Athens to show off the University, the football facility, and the City of Athens. Recruiting success is the lifeblood of success for UGA football in the near and long-term. I'm sure someone can value the difference between a 9-10 regular season (pre-Kirby years) win total year in/year out UGA team vs. a 11-12 regular season win UGA team. It would have to be substantial.

    Economic impact of the game should benefit Georgia/Athens Clarke County and not (primarily) Florida/Jax. UGA is a publicly funded University. Both UGA and UGA Football benefit greatly from state and local (ACC) - infrastructure support, public service support, and property tax abatement.

  • BornADawgBornADawg Posts: 615 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    As an old fart, and I’ve stated in the past, I’m a believer in traditions. But again I’ll say I have been “shown the light “, so to speak, of the negative impact it has on recruiting. Kirby has and always will want what’s best for this program. Let’s get this game on the campuses where they belong. Go Kirby and Go Dawgs!

  • UGADawgUGADawg Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ Junior

    According to OnlineAthens.com UGA will make $4.7 million per SEC home game.

    Per Jacksonville.com revenue generated from the UGA v FL game this year is expected to be around $4.55 million.

    By this information if the game was changed to a home and home - UGA would make an additional approximate $150,000 on years designated as the home team, and not make approximately $4.55 million when designated as the away team. 

    Jacksonville.com also advises “the city has estimated the economic impact of the Flordia-Georgia game at $35 million per year.” We can all agree the city of Athens and local business owners would clearly benefit from the new revenue every other year.  

    More importantly, CKS would get and extra game to recruit every other year, which he has already said (on multiple occasions) would be beneficial for UGAs recruiting. 

    According to dawnation.com • UGA Football generated $134,463,859 – with Expenses $48,501,193 during the 2019-2020 fiscal year ending last July. That’s a Profit of approximately $86 million. This is also with Georgia’s football ticket sales being greatly affected during that time by the Covid-19 seating restrictions, with the stadium capacity limited to just 20,504 down from 92,746 when at full capacity, AND only three home games that season, as Vanderbilt canceled twice One could easily argue those numbers would be even more favorable now. 

    So IMO - You can’t put a price tag on recruiting and getting a game in Athens against the lousy stinking gators every other year.  I personally hope it happens as soon as the contract allows. I also don’t understand why we are still debating what even Steve Spurrier himself called a de facto home game for the gators every year.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Georgia currently has the No. 2 ranked recruiting class for the 2023 recruiting cycle. Florida sits back at No. 9. While that might seem like an improvement for Napier compared to the end of the Mullen era, the latter’s first full recruiting class finished ranked No. 9 in the 2019 recruiting cycle.

    This entire article is hilarious when one realizes that not one single Georgia recruit ranked in the Rivals top 10 is committed to UGA (the highest rated UGA commit is #14 and the highest rated uncommitted guy is #13). Alabama has 3 of the top 9 Georgia players. Clemson also has 3 of the top 12 and also numbers #13 and #15. So you guys are throwing stones from a glass house here, big time.

    Also, losing out on an in-state prospect to another in-state school is something that UGA doesn't deal with to begin with. Where UF has to recruit directly against FSU, Miami and now Big 12 program UCF, UGA only has Georgia Tech who basically isn't even trying (if they were trying they would have hired a guy like former Stanford offensive coordinator Pep Hamilton ages ago).

    Also, saying "both Napier and Mullen had #9 ranked first classes" ignores a ton of relevant information. See, there are a ton of 4 star prospects. Guys who aren't good at recruiting - or who don't want to work hard at it - can easily game the system by essentially ignoring the 4 star prospects that everyone wants in favor of the 4 star prospects that the schools that actually recruit well don't prioritize as highly.

    Case in point? Josh Dobbs. 4 star QB right? Sure ... but one who wasn't that tall, didn't have a very strong (or accurate) arm, didn't have a pro-style offense background and though a dual threat guy wasn't especially quick or fast. Result? Georgia, Alabama, Auburn, FSU, South Carolina and Clemson had no interest. So Butch Jones saw a highly rated kid that he could land without having to compete that hard for and did so.

    That was Mullen's approach: recruiting kids that were ranked high that he didn't have to really fight for. The result was so many of his players not panning out that he was relying on the transfer portal, to the point where he actually claimed that he preferred kids from the portal to high school recruits. Napier, who was a recruiting coordinator for Clemson as well as a top recruiter for Alabama, has an entirely different recruiting philosophy. Napier has earned his #9 ranking by actually winning battles on the recruiting trail against Bama, Clemson, UGA and everyone else.

  • natejawsnatejaws Posts: 162 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @thadec You take moron to a new level. You take irrelevant facts (butch jones recruiting) and apply that to uga and uf recruiting. Like Mullen, Napier isn't blowing the doors off in recruiting but may be better at player development than his predecessor but recruiting isn't elite yet.

    Enjoy pounding sand with weak arguments as a tech nerd. You probably need to worry more about your captain kirk Halloween costume than football recruiting.

  • 87Dawg_1187Dawg_11 Posts: 75 ✭✭✭ Junior

    You're not looking at the big picture - it's not the ADs decision it's the president's decision. The revenue football brings in is nice, but it doesn't compare to the money UGA gets from the endowment and donations from big money alumni, many of whom live in South and Southeast Georgia and enjoy a game in their backyard. The game will stay in Jacksonville until they sign off on the move.

  • doubledawg1990doubledawg1990 Posts: 107 ✭✭✭ Junior
    hey @87Dawg_11, care to put some numbers on the huge strawman you just threw out there -- "donations from big money alumni, many of whom live in South and Southeast Georgia." Many? Take a look at the listing of Silver Circle Silver Circle Members. Not as many as you think.

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