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CFP Committee pressed on Georgia at No. 1, compares to Ohio State and Michigan
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CFP Committee pressed on Georgia at No. 1, compares to Ohio State and Michigan
ATHENS — The College Football Playoff Committee was put on the spot late Monday night with questions about Georgia compared to Big Ten powerhouses Ohio State and Michigan.
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Our scoring offense could be much higher as we tend to run out the clock as soon as we get up by 3 scores rather than add on, especially in the 4th quarter. Anyone who has watched us play at all knows we coud easily average another 6 points a game. When you are winning with defense you don't have to throw up big numbers.
We will have the top defense once Michigan plays Ohio State. Might get that top ranking even earlier.
The CFP Committee is completely irrational when it comes to justifying their comparitive rankings between teams with similar wins & losses. Michigan has a higher ranked offense and defense than UGA and has the same 10-0 record as UGA. If Michigan goes undefeated and wins the B1G with a better offense and defense than UGA then by the CFP own justification Michigan should be ranked #1.
I believe the committee will consider placing Ohio State ahead of Georgia only if they get a win over Michigan next week. However, if Georgia wins the SECCG over LSU the following week, they will probably move Georgia back to the number one spot. The conference title win for Ohio State (if that happens) will not be nearly as impressive as the win for Georgia in the SECCG. I doubt Michigan can take the number one spot from Georgia under those same conditions. It really all depends on how much separation there actually is in the eyes of the committee. None of that actually matters to Coach Smart and company, he just wants to go into the playoffs with a healthy lineup and take care of business. GO DAWGS!
Had we not given up the punt return at the end of the first half against M. State we would be No. 1 in scoring defense. That TD should never have happened.
Franky, I'm expecting Ohio State to defeat Michigan and win the B1G at 13-0 and UGA winning the SEC at 13-0 as well splitting the top votes but remaining #1. For the best CFP I would want TCU and USC to win out and finish 3rd & 4th respectively. This would give representation all across the country in the CFP and make for some interesting match ups, as opposed to a UGA revenge tour of Michigan, LSU & Tennessee.
Like stated, look at their schedule compared to ours. Michigan hasn't really played anyone all season. Was evident when they played us last year. Same with Ohio state. Technically should be Michigan #2 if you're using that logic. Yes OSU has a high powered offense, but the defense is Swiss cheese, on occasion.
Are you kidding me? Not only did Michigan schedule their three non conference games against Little Sisters of the Poor, their entire conference, sans Ohio State, is made up of Little Sisters of the Poor. Then, should they luck out against the Buckeyes, they will play another Little Sister of the Poor for their “conference championship”.
Same goes for Ohio State should they beat Michigan.
As if Michigan, Ohio State and pretty much every other team doesn't run out the clock with a big lead in the 4th quarter. Plus, this isn't even true. Georgia has scored 2 TDs in the 4th quarter in 4 of their 10 games this season (Missouri, Auburn, Mississippi State, VANDERBILT). Against both Auburn and Vanderbilt, UGA scored 3 TDs with the last coming with 5 minutes left in the game. Also, against Oregon, Kent State and Florida it isn't as if UGA took a knee or went for field goals. They scored TDs in the 4th in those games too. That leaves Samford, Tennessee and South Carolina as the only teams where UGA did what you claimed. And (in contrast to, say, Oregon and South Carolina) as Tennessee actually played pretty well on defense in that game - held UGA to 130 yards rushing and 260 passing ... the Vols issue was mostly their offense getting exposed - it is unclear whether UGA could have scored another TD even if they wanted to.
This is UGA's best offense since 2017. But please realize that this isn't saying a whole lot. Do not kid yourself into thinking that UGA's 2022 offense is anything like Alabama 2020, LSU 2019, Clemson 2018 or Clemson 2016. Clemson 2016 was the least impressive of that bunch and their starting QBs (Kelly the first 4 games, Lawrence the last 11) had 3750 yards an 32 TDs. But the real deal was their running game: an absolutely incredible 3500 yards and 45 TDs.
UGA has a good offense but a GREAT defense. Ohio State is the opposite: great offense (when Jaxon Smith-Njiba is playing) but good defense.
Here's another angle that no one is talking about. The unwritten selection criteria. The money angle. What happens if USC wins out? From a ratings and money angle does the committee want to add the west coast and LA TV markets or the Knoxville or Clempsome, SC TV markets (ad revenue) to the interested broadcast footprint?
There will be a lot more national interest and revenue generated by including USC in the CFBPO. Money talks.
CFB is a QB league. A good QB can win games for a team. USC has a good QB.
I was thinking the same thing about the final rankings, though OSU/MICH are ultimately replaceable with one another.
This is one that's thrown me, as I've never been sure how that part is calculated. Pick 6s are not included in scoring defensive stats because they're scored against the offense. Punt return TDs go against special teams, which are a sort of no-man's-land as far as O/D goes. DOES that score count against our defense, and if so, could someone explain why?
All scoring goes against the scoring defense stat. Pick sixes, safeties, FGs, return TDs....all of it. It's not fair to the D, and people complain, but that is the way it is. Just like all scoring goes to scoring offense...FGs, returns, safeties, etc.
Georgia surrendered 153 points of all varieties last year (including a pick six against). Their Total Scoring defense was 153/15 = 10.2...exactly what the record books show.
If the committee got anything right, it is their conclusion that there is separation between Georgia and everybody else.
Last year it was Georgia, Bama, then everybody else. This year Georgia has the stage all to its self and everybody else are the opening acts.
Thank you. I don't know why I've always been under the impression that a defense scoring against an offense didn't affect a team's defensive stats. I guess because... someone said it once and it makes complete sense?
A lot of the time people will remove the things defense have directly no control over to get a true picture of what the defense did, but it gets tricky. For example, if the offense fumbles at their own 20, but the defense yields no yardage and the opponent still kicks the FG, should that really still go against the defense? You can't really expect the D to generate a turnover on demand, or force a team out of FG range every time there is a sudden change. I think that is why they keep it overly generic, because even removing stuff like pick sixes, the D would still be getting penalized for offensive miscues, so might as well just leave it all and expect it evens out. There are advanced metrics like points surrendered per snap, yards surrendered per snap, defensive success rate and such that may actually account for those scenarios a little better, but I haven't ever looked into specifics of how those are calculated to be certain.
The only folks asking this question had to be a Big 10 writer, especially given the follow-up question. No one from the Big 10 should out rank UGA with all winning out - strength of schedule is just so lopsided and will only increase after the conference championships. These things are always maddening given the nature of conference loyalists weighing in. Check the ACC teams remaining in the polls as well as USC and their rank. Just win out and be champ and leave nothing to these folks.
Not for certain as Michigan beating Ohio State would leave open the Ohio States fans saying their 1 loss team is better than TN. and should get in above them.