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  • ColumbusDawgColumbusDawg Posts: 547 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2022

    Sure would be something if JT ended up back at UGA! Hope not for the other QB's that have been waiting for their turn and very patiently. Extremely Admirable. That being said, JT knows the offense well and could possibly be the starter. Enjoy that food for thought...

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @ColumbusDawg

    If you look at the QBs that Smart is now recruiting, pocket passers like JT Daniels don't fit what Smart and Monken want to do with the offense.

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Carson BEck is the air apparent to the QB throne. He certainly has made it look relatively easy when he's had his opportunities. Now if he has the right internal makeup we will be on to something. If not then I look for GS to take over.

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 780 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    What about Brock Vandagriff? He's big, he's mobile, and he can zip the ball far and accurately like nobody's business. Plus he's a year ahead of Stockton. Am I missing something?

  • dawgforevadawgforeva Posts: 3 ✭ Freshman

    Your recent update states that we don't lose any wide receivers to graduation this year. What about Kearis Jackson? He's listed as a Senior on the roster.

  • DawgCrazy76DawgCrazy76 Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Dante Cephas looks really good to stretch the field, Rara Thomas capable and tough. JT good protection At UGA not so at West Va., high football IQ can make fast adjustments at the line. I think we're set with QBs though. Go Dawgz.😎

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 780 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Kconnorriley (and anybody else for that matter): I'd love to get more insights the transfers we may be seeking, and our possible transfer strategy. I know it's early, and I'm not questioning Kirby & company. But I'm just trying to understanding what's going on a bit better. Examples:

    • Seems like we're already set up to be very deep at WR next year. But we're still missing that proven separation guy. Would RaRa and Cephas bring that dimension to our receiving corpsl? I thought that, if we were to offer a WR through the TP, it'd be for a top playmaker near the level Jordan Addison or Mario Williams. Seems like we continued to stockpile very good WRs but aren't looking for great ones. What's going on there?
    • Do you think we'll go QB hunting? I'd hate to undermine the three promising QBs already on the roster, but there's a good chance one of them will transfer, and we don't have a '23 QB coming in. So keeping an eye on the portal would seem to make sense. Which QBs out there might make sense for us? Leary? Uiagalelei? Hudson Card?
    • If Milton leaves, we'll have a similar question about depth at RB -- and only one incoming '23 RB, who was something of a fallback. Would it be feasible to flip Justice Haynes or, say, Reuben Owens? Or should we be looking to the TP to fill the gap?
    • More broadly, where do you think our needs are most pronounced? Aside from the positions above, maybe outside LB? OT?

    It'd be great to get some insights from the reporters at DN on these kinds of questions about the TP. It's too early to know all the answers but it'd be good to see an informed discussion.

  • UGA66UGA66 Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Do not believe non-mobile JT will be returning. I see mobile Beck and back-up Brock, if Brock stays? If not, mobile Gunner as back-up. I do not see Gunner leapfrogging Brock if he stays. Portal for QB...hard to know. It will be interesting for sure. I do see the portal possibly for a running back. It is hard to second guess Kirby. I do think he may be using the portal more. Got some top guns leaving.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2022

    The UGA players read about their team. Nothing productive comes from talking about who might be coming in to take your position during the preparation time for the biggest game of the year. Right now, the coaching staff is trying to keep everyone focused on the next game. Just like they did all year. Only this time UGA faces its biggest test against its toughest competition.

    CKS prefers to develop from within but may plug in an experienced need in a spot or 2. Based on what we know about CKS he is certainly not going to announce anything. And it isn't likely to be a major splash (based on the 2 wr's who have been "offered").

    There is only 1 job now. Beat OSU.

    Frankly the 2nd TP window should have the better candidates to offer. Take the QB's out of the discussion (UGA has 3 they hope to keep). Those will be the guys that stuck with their teams and fought for jobs in spring practice. Not the NIL shopping guys, guys looking for guarantees, malcontents, dismissed guys or bench warmers with no chance to play at their current schools.

    For the record UGA will have 2 "new" RB's available for next season. Roderick Robinson and Andrew Paul. As for QB, my money will be on BVG. Think about it. BVG is SBIV on steroids. Bigger, faster, bigger arm, more athletic, stronger, more physical. He brings more to the table than CBeck (w/more remaining eligibility) and can play a very similar game to SBIV. BVG catches and surpasses CBeck this spring.

  • ColumbusDawgColumbusDawg Posts: 547 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Man, not Tray Scott to ARK please. Not Mcgee to anywhere either.

    Auburn and ARK, and dang GT, all of ya, stay away from UGA. Go get Bama coaches OK? Or even better, Tenn and FL coaches OK? Ok then

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 780 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "Man, not Tray Scott to ARK please." Yeah, that was reaction, too. Scott has done an incredible job recruiting AND developing DL talent. Not to long ago, DLs were the weakest levels of our offenses. For the last couple of years, they've been among the best in the country.

    On Monken: Have y'all listened to that YouTube of him? Really impressive. I'm particularly impressed that he shares credit so generously with others. That says to me that he's confident in himself in just the way that you'd want for a mentor to players and to the young coaches.

    I hate to say that I'm glad that Monken isn't going to Purdue. I do wonder if his age -- he's around 56 -- and the fact that he's committed to stay at UGA through the playoffs make it more difficult for him to be hired.

  • GoodOlDawgGoodOlDawg Posts: 481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I think you make a great point about Brock Vandagriff. He does have a lot of skills that are similar to Bennett, but more of it. If I'm not mistaken, he and Beck have the same amount of remaining eligibility because Beck gets an additional year for COVID (2020). This Spring should prove to be very interesting with 3 very capable QB's competing for the job. Regardless of who wins out, I believe UGA will have a very strong offense that doesn't fall off from the impressive year they are currently having.

    GO DAWGS!

  • David1David1 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I wouldn’t say Faulkner left for greener pastures. The NATS can’t be considered greener pasture, muddy waters maybe. Go Dawgs!!

  • PopeyethesailorPopeyethesailor Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
  • khummelkhummel Posts: 893 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Leave Bouie in the portal... he already stiffed us once, and was suspended at TAM... I'd rather we develop and play the studs already in our DB stable. Go Dawgs!

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,723 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I have not seen anything so far from Brock V that he knows when to add and when to take away on his throws. From past SP games he throws everything one speed(hard). He wants to look for his 1st read then pick up and run. SB was accused of doing this early on by some on here, but BV takes it to the next level, plus the game obviously slowed down for SB, as it could fror BV.

    CB has looked very comfortable coming in and tossing it around, though one could argue why shouldn't he, UGA was up big time when he came in. Fair enough but at least I trusted him he wouldn't do anything **** and the coaches obviously felt the same. Not so with BV.

    Of course SP will determine alot next spring and who knows how everything shakes out? I feel very bullish on CB at the moment. NOt based on being biased(I have none concerning who is up next) but on the eye test. That said, I know CKS and CTm wil chosse the one who gives them the best chance to win, based on them choosing SB over JT when I believed it was the other way around. It takes a real man to admit he was wrong, :) so there, that's my virtue signaling for today! Go Dawgs!

  • UGA66UGA66 Posts: 4,191 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Not a Bouie fan. Leave him in the portal, yes. Just my opinion . The best to Bill Norton as he seeks greener playing fields.

    I think Carson B will get the nod next season unless Brock puts on a Super Man cape at some point during spring. I still do not have a firm handle on Gunner S. "Many" say he is really good...pitcher's arm and very mobile...UGA needs a solid RPO QB. All three are capable. Great place to be. They all need reps, reps, reps. ..and game time.... 2023 is going to be very interesting with Stetson totally out of the QB picture.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Some might protest "too soon" but I will say it ... Todd Monken was a very successful head coach at Southern Miss. That and his SEC ties makes him a logical candidate for the Mississippi State job.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @UGA66

    No, UGA doesn't need a solid RPO QB, or the RPO at all. The RPO is a spread thing. It is a subset of the zone read spread option offenses that were all the rage in the 2000s, but as you should note have since fallen out of favor. When the better QBs from those college offenses went to the NFL, NFL coaches took advantage of the rules changes to incorporate the RPO to ease their transition to the pro game. Then college air raid and pro-style spread teams saw that it was working in the NFL and it to their own offenses in response to opposing defenses figuring out how to stop their passing games. But defenses have also caught up to the "passing spread with RPO" thing too. It is a reason why statistics and scoring were down this year.

    As UGA is running a pro style offense and has a ton of talent to do it with, they shouldn't bother with the RPO. It exposes QBs to hits (remember Texas QB Colt McCoy in the national title game against Alabama?) and using it can be a crutch that prevents you from developing a truly special pro style offense around well-rounded QBs and RBs. It would be horrible if the next Peyton Manning or Tom Brady - for example - never played for UGA because they couldn't run the RPO. And at RB, the RPO favors scatbacks and third down backs: complementary players. Not true every down tailbacks like Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, Todd Gurley, Derrick Henry, Josh Jacobs, Najee Harris and Mark Ingram.

    And as I mentioned, defenses are catching up with it anyway. Utah was able to stop USC's RPO game with a bunch of guys on defense that for the most part won't be drafted. Sure, a big part of it was USC's players not getting the whole "football is a team sport, not individuals hot-dogging for draft position and NIL deals" but it was still lesser athletes making plays against better ones because they were able to read what the offense was doing and shut it down. So no, UGA shouldn't do what was all the rage for Clemson in 2016 because it isn't 2016 anymore and won't work as well. Instead, UGA should go all in on running the pro-style offenses that Bama did with Jake Coker and Mac Jones in 2015 and 2020. As Beck is a much better athlete than Coker and is taller with a stronger arm than Jones, it should work even better.

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