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You're first point is so wrong its laughable. You say Qb mobility did not do anything for all of these other QB's. Wrong. Other factors did them in, mobility had nothing to do with it. Inexperience, could not pick up the offense, other QB had more experience, left program, could not handle the job when it was given, etc.
This right here takes your comment and opinion and destroys it. Why did Stetson Bennett start over JT Daniels who knew the offense very well and had a better arm? There was ONLY ONE REASON. JUST ONE...Mobility!
Smart wanted mobility but of those on the roster, they were not ready or able for all kinds of reasons. Inexperienced Fields left. Mathis ****. Newman could not pick up the offense fast enough. The last one standing with mobility, got the job over a healthy 5-star JT Daniels for the playoffs in 2021 and who then transferred because, Stetson could RUN and he could NOT.
We all know how Smart does his QB's, its the same every year. No matter how long the QB is there. Bottomline is only 1 will get to be the starter. Truth be known, I would think with a new O.C., Smart is leaning Beck but just like the last few years, could EASILY change his mind! Just like when he had Beck as #2 when the 2021 season started but went with Bennett instead when JT did go down.
So if Smart can change his mind, Smart does not even know on a weekly basis when there is no proven starter and therefore you certainly do not.
Next, UGA defense will be able to provide a cushion this year. The 2023 UGA defense is going to be incredible and likely in historically great territory. I am shocked that you who knows everything about everything, especially about UGA football although you are a self-proclaimed "casual college football fan" are not aware of this.
Next, all of your QB comparisons are extreme, all of your points to discredit everything Bennett did by giving the credit elsewhere is a tremendous stretch and disservice. All of the previous QB's you mentioned had inexperience and other issues and did not know the systems so their mobility strengths did not matter because they were not ready. You have to be ready to do more than just say hike and take off running or throw the ball a mile! You have to know and be able to run the offense no matter how mobile or how strong your arm. Come on man! Then inexperienced ones have to be evaluated once they are in live games, i.e. Mathis could not handle it, Newman, could not pick up the offense to make it to a game, Fields, never looked ready and did not know the offense well at all yet.
You are like, hey we just recruited a dual threat extremely mobile QB or strong armed-one, he must start right away or do a platoon, because he is mobile or can throw a mile or Kirby is a liar saying he wants mobility or will platoon. Come on man! Think! There can be no real platoon to start 2 inexperienced QB's at the beginning of a season if there is only 1 that can handle it! Waste of time, is not fair to the other players, other than to get a back-up ready as an emergency plan. That is the only reason to do it. But this year there are 2 that can handle it. And this year with 2 inexperienced QB's, I could see 2 getting a lot of reps early especially if Carson wins it, but not as much if Brock wins the job because Carson already has much more than him. Unless Brock **** more than expected lol.
Your QB stats do not say hey but there was terrible receiver availability. And yeah Fields did not get much playing time because he was not ready and could do nothing BUT RUN basically and cannot have him coming in half the time, Jake and all QB's get out of the flow. And yeah Fromm was highly managed when he was a Freshman, what Freshman isn't?! You do not typically build an offense around someone in the SEC who was playing HS ball last year and is unexpectedly starting all of a sudden! You take as much off of him as possible. You also do not factor in the sorry OC and the decimated receiving corp Fromm's last season either. He had one decent WR available and he was out half the season and played injured the rest and the OC was unimaginative, to say the least.
Also you make zero mention of Bennett's speed and how well he actually did at the NFL combine, when diminishing what he brought to the table running the ball as UGA QB. It was all defense, it was all OL, blah, blah. I would like to see you out there with the same OL, running and knowing the complex offense, being chased by dudes that wanted to hurt you. Discrediting the running of Stetson and Kirby not prioritizing running is discrediting your entire thesis. JT Could have done as well huh? LOL.
Factors matter for every QB and every season, its not black and white and it certainly is not cut and dry, as you state it is when it comes to Kirby and QB's. Stetson was mobile. Stetson knew the offense and could run it. Stetson was the starter. NONE OF THE OTHERS THAT WERE MOBILE COULD SAY THAT. SORRY, BUT YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG ABOUT MOBILITY NOT MATTERING.
You do not have to be like your extreme mobile comparison of Lamar Jackson, not even close, you just have to be able to do it when needed, when part of the game plan and escape when needed. It is NOT about who has the BEST MOBILITY, just that it is a highly desired aspect that you be able to do it. That's all Einstein. And all of our current QB's can do it, so mobility it is a moot point in selecting the next UGA QB! They all can sufficiently! Unless all else is basically even, then the better runner will probably break the tie. Otherwise, it is not close to the top priority, when they can all do it adequately.
Bottomline is this . The factors matter much more than Kirby's history of who ends up eventually starting. Because as factors been the difference in the past, and had the factors been different than so would have been the QB and/or their results. Agree? Of course you do. Facts matter. The current and previous QB processes are and were fluid. So is how Kirby selects the past and next starter. The process and criteria are obviously not set in stone as you noted.
It is as Kirby says, who gives the team the best chance to win. Kirby wanted a MOBILE QB, but they left or they did not work out until Bennett. Why do you think Bennett was QB the last 2 years?!! Because Kirby's history proves that he is a liar and does not really care about mobility according to your analysis? LOL... Think outside of the box and only using stats and facts that support your opinion. omitting ones that do not or maybe you just did not think about them. Use the stats and get ALL the facts to form your opinion or be ready to get facts you overlooked for whatever reason. I will leave it at this: JT Daniels knew the offense well and had a better arm and was not mobile. He should have been the starter based on your conclusions. But he was not, it was Stet. Because he was mobile.
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Why did JT start the 2021 season instead of Bennett then? Why did JT return to start the South Carolina game after Bennett started the UAB game? Do you think after JT threw 4TDs in the first quarter against Vandy that Kirby looked over on the sideline and had an epiphany about Stets mobility? Mobility did not win Stets the starting job. And unless JT ever wants to reveal the real reason we'll probably never know because Kirby hasn't ever been honest about it