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SEC Network analyst Cole Cubelic: ‘Don’t count out the Tide’

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edited July 2023 in Article commenting
imageSEC Network analyst Cole Cubelic: ‘Don’t count out the Tide’

ATHENS —SEC Network analyst Cole Cubelic recently explained the how the argument for Alabama goes beyond seven-time national champion Nick Saban.

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    SufferinginAtlantaSufferinginAtlanta Posts: 68 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Of course no one discounts Alabama. LSU either. The days of feeling like they were king of the mountain are over though. At least for 2023.

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    BeachwagonBeachwagon Posts: 161 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Bama is a real threat as it is every year. Great bulletin board Material for CKS; rat poison for all those 5-star Bama players…

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    BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 532 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Statistically the dawgs are 1 in about 15-20 programs that have the talent and coaching to win the Natty. It’s easy to bet either way.

    Bama has a realistic chance to loose 2 games again this year with a minimum of 3 hard games along with the iron bowl.

    on the other hand, baring an upset, UGA should see the SEC championship game, on the west side, I believe it’s a 3 team race

    not to mention Auburn and Arkansas will give a few teams fits this year

    We will be surprised with SC, KY. and even GT being better than expected, but that’s ok, as we need some tough games in prep for the playoffs.

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    MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 1,888 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    Sure the Tide will be back. They actually never left and should have been in the playoffs last year (remember the previous articles & discussion about the "best" teams vs the "most deserving"). Bama hasn't skipped a beat, and I really don't understand why this is even a discussion. They had the best recruiting class in the nation last go around (2nd best class EVER recorded in fact with (9) 5-star recruits). Before that they had the #2 class. Until someone proves otherwise (like Kirby), Saban is still the GOAT, and the Tide is still the team to beat.

    Looking at our schedule for '23 and '24, the matchup with the Tide is the game I'm most looking forward to seeing...not Texas...not Clemson....but can Kirby win in Tuscaloosa?

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    HenddawgHenddawg Posts: 732 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I’m always amazed at these stories about “don’t count out Bama” rhetoric that gets going. I’m not sure that any true football fan would ever count out Bama, just like any true football fan would ever count out the DAWGS. We know that each year brings its own challenges even with rosters in great shape, great plans for succession and new players, etc. and that is what makes all exciting. DAWGS are in great shape and will be one of the top 10-teams capable of winning it all. Each team definitely uses this stuff as motivation, and this will help fuel the DAWGs in 2023. Can’t get here fast enough - Go DAWGS

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    GtheGreekGtheGreek Posts: 1,008 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    “I think Herbie has been doing his homework,” Cubelic said, “and this offseason he’s starting to dial back in.”....neither you chunky butt or Herbie are doing anything remotely related to expert football analysis! If you were, you'd be reporting the Bama drop off will continue in 23......IMHO 9/3 no play off for The Tide.....the reason is inconsistent player development by the fruit basket turn over in Bama's coaching ranks.....who thinks there is any measurable amount of coaching loyalty in the Bama staff???? Does anybody think the Bama coaching staff works as a TEAM or is it all about Sabin intimidation....my way or the highway and we better win??? Sabin will cruse for a couple of more years, until he gets tired of the ravenous unsatisfied Bama Fan Base's incessant bitchen on the Finebaum show......then my friends a new coach will be named. That Alabama Alum is currently working wonders for the DAWGS D....then and only then will the Tide return to the play off stage.

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    WoodrowWoodrow Posts: 101 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Weird thing is that this is only talked about in media and not anywhere else. And only in the SEC, not nationally other than Herbie. All due respect to everyone but no one would ever count out Alabama while Saban is there. But to make it a narrative is just lazy writing.

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    "Over the last 2 seasons,as UGA fielded better teams than Alabama" E_Roc . Technically UGA has fielded the better team for one season and 1 quarter. Considering that AL beat UGA in the SEC championship game and led the CFBCG for 3 quarters. Therefore there is no reason to think AL won't be AL again this season after stubbing their toe last season. If AL underachieved last season , and many CFB experts believe they did, the blame can be placed almost completely on coaching and execution (coaching preparation). One would think those deficiencies would be corrected by the new coaching coordinators.

    There are probably a number of teams that can win it all this year. UGA, AL, LSU, USC, OSU, MI, Cle, TN?, TX?, are all good teams with a chance. AL has as good a chance to win it all this year as any team. AL has the 2nd highest odds to win this year. The team with the highest preseason odds typically doesn't win it. So for the talking heads to suggest that AL being a contender or even a favorite is surprising is pretty uninformed commentary.

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    UGA66UGA66 Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Let's settle this thing in Tuscaloosa! Go Dawgs!!! At least as far as UGA dominance is concerned. Bama may well make the playoffs...but so will Georgia.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    "I guess the word I'm looking for here is aimless."_____E_Roc in describing the state of Sportwriters and Talkers

    Outstanding. Thank you...that's the description i was looking for. One word that describes today's CFB World. Lol.

    Mike Griffith has the easiest "Journalism job" in America. All he has to do, is write the Headline and "setup"....and, we do the research and add context. Lol

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    Why is Tennessee "a good team that can make the CFP"? How 'bout South Carolina? Are they a good team that can make the playoffs...with their "Heisman Candidate QB"? Lol...seriously what's your point? Bama did much more than "stub their toe"...IMO. They could've easily lost 4 or 5 games in each of the last 2 years...against teams that most consider "out-manned" and "out coached".

    Do you think LSU and Brian Kelly, coulda' slipped one by Saban like they did last year...back in, say...2020? Bama's been in a downward spiral for a few years, now. Some can see, most appear unable to.

    Saban is victim to the same disease that took out most of the Greats. "Success"...and..."time" have eroded his Program down to the bedrock. He has to rebuild...again...to get back to the earlier version of Bama Football. The good news is, his talent pool is deep.

    Right now, there's not a Team or Coach operating in UGA's orbit. Nobody's saying that can't change. But, like UGA...they're gonna have to prove it on the field and not in the paper. That's just how it goes.

    The Dawgs are entering this year, "as if". As if...they never won a Natty. And, they're actually in better shape than they were over the last 2 years. I WISH I could find somebody, willing to put money on Bama. Lol

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    BeachwagonBeachwagon Posts: 161 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Cole Cubelic is highly overrated… he is consistently wrong.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,451 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Good for him...he fits right in, with the rest of em. They're just "millionaire squirrels" tryin' to get a nut...which is why their heads are always in the sand or up their butts. 🤣🤣🤣

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    ColumbusDawgColumbusDawg Posts: 537 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Look, the rumors of Alabama's demise, may be GREATLY exaggerated. Do they still strike fear in their opponents? I would say yes. Are their recruiting classes and roster in the top 5 or so? Yes. So for anyone to overlook Alabama, would be foolish. Sure they have issues but don't we all? Their OL and QB may be big issues, especially if they cannot run block well.

    Does Saban know how to win with a very strong defense, with a game manager QB and at just the right time at any point during the game dial up a deep one and then, run the ball through the opponents will in the 2nd half and its game over? Absolutely. They might go lose 1 or undefeated during the regular season.

    That being said, they better bring all that and their A-game if they want to beat this NEW BREED of Dawgs! Because the New Breed is at a higher level that Bama must match blow for blow. And Bama wants to run this year? Guess what UGA is best at? Stopping it! Could be a heavyweight match come seasons end!

    But are they has-beens? I don't think so. But, are they the machine Kirby has built and is operating? Nope. But can can still beat any team in the country. I would say yes. They haven't fallen that far that fast. If they do not screw up and the other team does, absolutely yes. They haven't fallen that far, just a touch, but at the same time and it compounds their slight fall and that is Kirby and UGA have s RISEN. Significantly. In some ways making it look like some of Bama's slipping may be partially due to Kirby not being there anymore. Along with OL and some injury issues.

    Regardless, Kirby has elevated UGA to Alabama's heights, their previous heights and now they must face a hungrier version of themselves that is firing on all cylinders in all areas. That absolutely makes their road to hoe much tougher every year.

    Maybe Saban is running out of gas too. Maybe he just had some things happen though. Maybe...he misses his foundational top defensive coordinator Kirby Smart and cannot replace him and his impact. If so, then maybe Bama's slight fall in permanent.

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    E_RocE_Roc Posts: 1,231 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    Huh? So if Bama beats Georgia for the SEC title, they were better than us all year, minus a quarter. But if we beat them for the national title, we weren't even better than them for that whole game?

    Team A won each of the last two national titles. Team B won neither of them, and didn't even play for one of them. Team A was more highly ranked than Team B for the vast majority of those two seasons, and sent more players to the NFL. To assert that Team A was not the better team for those two years is really reaching, to put it politely.

    Like BigDawg61, I'm not sure what your point is here. Part of my argument was that most everyone does still take Alabama seriously as a playoff contender.

    I question your readiness to just assume that both Bama coordinators are going to jump right in and fix everything in year 1. But at least you pointed to something that has changed in the Bama program to support your argument, which is more than I can say for Herbstreit, Cubelic, etc.

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