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Buying or selling? Georgia QB situation among top SEC Media Days takeaways

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edited July 2023 in Article commenting
imageBuying or selling? Georgia QB situation among top SEC Media Days takeaways

ATHENS — Georgia is the unquestioned favorite to repeat as SEC Champion and the oddsmakers’ choice to win the national title entering the season.

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    GBALGBAL Posts: 768 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Q: Who makes the list of candidates available to be voted on as preseason all SEC.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm selling the Big Urnge being as good as last year. I will buy the fact that their coach is approaching Giant Pumpkin status but that is kind of expected at UTjr. This is why Kiffin was told he had to gain 50 lbs or leave...

    They will be 8-4 or 9-3 this year and reality will once again set in. Those silly pumpkin heads.

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    CDDawgsCDDawgs Posts: 61 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I wouldn't need to sell Big Urnge because I would never buy Heupels flash in the pan schtick. The players that choose UT have underperformed and if you remove the gimmicky offense from the equation, especially since the SEC HC's have seen it for 2 years straight, they do not return much of threat. They have some individually talented players but they do not play as a team. A predictable "buy" by you, Mike. Your blood must look like SunnyD crossed with hunter orange. Pathetically UT biased assessments and reporting.

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    SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Georgia wins the Joe Moore award. I guess they will eventually. But UGA had CFB's best O-line over the last two years, and the Joe Moore voters still decided to give the award to Michigan. But I guess they can't give it to Michigan every year.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Who are the voters for this award? I guess that is the thing really...

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    MikeGriffithMikeGriffith Posts: 3,682 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Couldn't agree more. The Dawgs proved it, on the field in 2021...when they stomped a mud hole in Michigan's chest during the Cotton Bowl game.

    How many "Sacks" did UGA have against that vaunted "Joe Moore winning", Yankee...I mean Wolverine Offensive Line?.

    Well sir...I'll tell ya.....4 Sacks & 7 TFLs.

    How many "Sack's" did they get against the Dawgs Offensive Line...in that very same game?....0 (zero) Sacks & 2 TFLs.

    The Joe Moore Award, Mackey Award, Burlesworth Award and Heisman Trophy (etal.), are awards focused in one direction, for the most part. North and/or West. They try their best to steer hype in that direction, every year. That's where they look first, for potential Award representatives.

    In the case of The Burlesworth...they look at Arkansas Players first...and expand the search outward from there.

    If a team or player in the North or West, doesn't rise to a particular "Award's" standard (underperforms)...then and only then...they start looking at players and teams outside their immediate area of interest.

    I've been sayin'...we need to introduce our own awards...

    Best Quarterback...."The Bennett Trophy"

    Most versatile Wide Receiver...."McConkey Award"

    Most versatile Offensive Player....The Bowers Trophy

    And, so on...

    The Dawgs "should" OWN most of the Excellence Awards, over the last 2 years. But, they don't. The awards have been politically split, between the North & West...and the South and East.

    In the case of the SEC, of course...they're dividing em between teams and divisions...and, Alabama. Lol

    The "Award" rarely goes to the player or team that actually "earned" it. Politics. SMH

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It really doesn't matter anymore. We will win the thing that matters most and our players will get paid the most from the draft.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    @MikeGriffith

    I'm not sure I get you. Are you saying...

    You think Tennessee is going to be "improved?

    And, South Carolina won't be?

    I'm not sure I understand your thinking there. I actually see it the other way around. I think Tennssee will take a step back...and SC will continue their upward journey. At least, until Rattler leaves or gets injured.

    It's not all about the offense. I believe SC will have a good (enough) defense, with a QB that is about to "breakout" in a big way and showed strong signs of it, last year. In fact Rattler will be in the Heisman conversation at the end of the season. IMO

    I realize, there is an imbalance of talent and depth that exists between the two teams...but, that's not true in Coaching. That's where I see SC making up ground on Tennessee.

    In my opinion...SC has Tennessee beat in the "Defense/Special Teams Department" & Quarterback Experience/Talent. I believe that's enough to put em over-the-top...and push em into SEC East runner-up status.

    I realize "Porky Pig and and The Carrot Tops" in Knoxville are the media's shiny new object. They got everybody's attention in '22....Cause they had a good year. Actually they exceeded expectations.

    Why do you think, UT's'22 success will carryover to this year? Will they be improved or stay the same, in your opinion and why?

    Why do you think SC will take a step back or stay the same?

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    UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    Some "fans" want to trash their rivals. I get it. They like to artificially inject themselves into the team by being ultra competitive and trash talking like they can actually get on the field and back it up. These people fail to face the reality that teams like TN and FU are "name" programs with a rich history of accomplishment and tradition. And sports success tends to be cyclical. Safe to say that leaders w/in the UGA program, both coaches and players, respect their opponents and know most wins will not come easily against SEC schools.

    As such, they have a built in attraction (and a following) for athletes to further their athletic endeavors. As long as these programs win more than they lose, they will have success convincing good players to play for their teams.

    To write off programs like TN and FU because they made some bad hires is short sighted.

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    SmartsTheManSmartsTheMan Posts: 1,520 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Big orange fever. The fever is real and after the last 15 years who can blame Vol fans.

    Heupel's offense seems too gimmicky to be able to have sustained success against SEC defenses. A lot of smoke and mirrors. Reminds me of Malzahn and how his offenses relied heavily on tricking the defense. They won't be able to recruit good enough on defense unless they change their hurry up offensive scheme.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    I think We're gonna see a "Big Orange Mushroom Cloud" lingering over Knoxville when their balloon pops, this year. Can't wait to hear all the excuses...I mean reasons, why everybody was wrong about the Vols...and why they underestimated SC, Kentucky and Vandy. Florida??? Some things stay the same. Lolol

    This ain't 2021 or 2022. All new teams...all new season. And I REALLY like this year's UGA Bulldog "Team". As a buddy of mine used to say when we were scopin out the chicks...."They're ready". Lol

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    They don't have the depth or talent to shut anybody down long enough to build a double digit lead.. Lot of close games for the Vols, this year,, IMO. Hope they have a great kicker.

    In my mind...there's no guarantee, that UT will beat Kentucky, Mizzou, Florida or Vandy...much less UGA, Bama, SC or A&M. I got em losing 4 SEC games, this year, myself. They may get lucky and only lose 2...but, hey...where does that leave em? Disappointed? Lol

    SC will lose 3 games and finish 2nd in the SEC East beating Tennesse in September...stifling the Vols CFP hype. They will also knock Clemson out of the CFP conversation in November.....if they're still around. This might be...."The Year of the Bumblebee" (GT). Lol

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    reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,676 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Daniels looked every bit of BRyce Young 2.0 and every bit as slight too.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Only 3 teams in SEC matter.

    Georgia


    Rammer Jammer


    Tigger


    That's it. Everyone else is just playing spoiler.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Personally...I think "Bammer" is relegated to "spoiler" unless and until they prove otherwise...by beating Texas. I see Texas testing...and, beating Bama...convincingly. All hell could break loose in Tuscaloosa this year with "Saban-Retirement" and "Has he lost it" talk.

    Bama is actually 1...if not 2 years away from having a real contender. Saban just needs to hang on and not let the wheels fly off, while they rebuild. All this "hype" and these "high expectations" are not helping his cause one bit.

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That 9 5* class are freshman. He has another top 5 class this year. Can he get a quarterback to put it all together. Not sure. Hope not.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2023

    Yeah...they're not done causing problems for Kirby & Company. Unless, Saban really has "lost it". Meaning he's lost the drive and desire that took him to places no other CFB HC has been.

    It's not easy for anybody...including Nick Saban...to maintain that level of focus and intensity without a break. He may be taking his break, now. OR...he may be preparing to turn the team over to a younger and hungrier "set of hands", with a clipboard and whistle.

    If that's the case.. he darn sure ain't leavin' the cupboard bare. I just wonder if he already has his eye on somebody to take over "The Program".

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    BigDawg888BigDawg888 Posts: 1,554 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't think Saban is done unfortunately. He relies on his assistants more and if they don't work out like the last couple of years then they miss the playoffs. There has been a dropoff with the line play and that is probably the biggest difference in my opinion. The wrs (hello Burton) haven't been quite as spectacular (half a notch dropoff) and the rbs not quite as great.

    The run of wrs, linemen, and rbs they had for awhile there was truly out of this world. 3 first round qbs, 3 heisman trophy winners, just unreal.

    So yes they have taken a step back but they are still our biggest competition and we will have to play our best to beat them. They will have talent for the next 3-4 years and are loaded so I would never count them out.

    I would say we SHOULD be the better team this year but that doesn't mean if we don't play our best game and meet them in the SECCG that we couldn't lose to them. We most certainly could.

    Regardless, we SHOULD be the better team.

    Now as for 2024 we lose 8-10 defensive and offensive linemen and have to replace all that experience. I think 2024 is going to be our biggest test playing at Texas and Alabama. We have some talented guys coming in but they will be FRESHMAN. Freshman are rarely ready to battle with 21 and 22 year old full grown men. This becomes pretty obvious in the trenches.

    So, I think we lose a couple in 2024 and probably lose at Tuscaloosa.

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    BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,449 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    IMO...We haven't seen UGA's "Best" team yet, IMO. "That", is a year away. This year's team will be "Great" and win-it-all again.

    But...in 2024-25 it's all going to come together in a way nobody is "willing to predict"...but, everybody that knows ball, can "see. Cause, if they did predict it, they'd be accused of being a Homer...or, worse yet...an idiot. Lol

    UGA will become an NFL version of a College Football Team...and, unlike "The Saban Era"...that's not going to change, as long as there is a playoff and a transfer portal...and a Kirby Smart, Will Muschamp, Bryan McClendon or Mike Bobo to run "The Program".

    Georgia still churns out some of the best HS football players in the Country. The Dawgs will always get their share. But, their recruiting reach has evolved since Richt took over...then Smart took it to another level. We're getting the best players from all over the Country and building good faith with some of the best HS Coaches in the Country.

    The UGA Brand has finally overtaken The Alabama Brand...and that's what's been scaring the hell out of everybody for decades. They knew if UGA ever took it to this level, there was no going back.

    That's why the Dawgs were always referred to as... "A Sleeping Giant".

    Lol...Kirby Smart woke the ole boy up. Now...there's some Payback comin' for decades of disrespect.

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