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Georgia football winners and losers following fall camp
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Georgia football winners and losers following fall camp
ATHENS — School is back in session and fall camp is in the books. The most grueling practices of the season are behind Georgia and later this week the Bulldog will begin to turn their full attention to the season-opener against Clemson.
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Love to hear Branson looking good. Those running backs are going to keep the attention of opposing safeties, leaving a lot of opportunities for the receivers to get open deep and across the middle. Speaking of which, no mention of any receivers or tight ends making this list, hopefully on the winners side. I bet the offense will put up enough points to give the defensive line time to get healthy for what looks like will be a long and tough schedule. Go Dawgs!
Clemson will be a good test for the injured DL. But with TennTech week 2 and a bye week4 the injuries have time to heal before the meat of the schedule. Just don’t sleep on Kentucky
Kentucky will be our first real test imo. If we do not dispatch Clemson then we are not who we thought we were.
I'm not concerned too much about Clemson. It will take a supreme effort for them and a lot of help from us for us to lose that game. Klubnik holds the ball too long and he always scrambles left. Their OL is not good by SEC standards. They do have a good and big TE and a good running back but I think we should be able to shut him out. Look for 4 or more sacks after we take a 2 td lead and they abandon their run game.
It will most likely get **** by the 3rd.
Now Kentucky is a different animal. It's a night game and Griff will be looking for a big night as well as JDJ. I will be there taking my 20-1 in person record and my sons 13-0 in person record and putting it on the line for the Dawgs. Very excited. I expect Kentucky to be a hard fought victory on the road getting us primed for Tuscaloosa and time to heal up as well.
GO DAWGS! SIC EM! WOOF.
Our running back room now reminds me of our bunch in the mid to late 80s==Worley, Henderson, Tate and Hampton. They were an awesome weapon for us and a joy to watch. Hope our group now turns out to be as productive as that group was. GO DAWGS !!!
It would be a mistake to underestimate this Clemson team. Sounds like they are catching UGA at a good time w/the injuries and young depth. This is their Super Bowl. Swinney likes to project his team as righteous and the anti-UGA. That program LIVES off state of GA recruiting. He wants(needs) this game more than any on their schedule for recruiting and if he hopes to make the playoffs/playoff seeding.
Clemson does not have the depth of UGA but most starters were highly ranked HS players. The DL is stout. Two Clemson defensive players were named to the nation's top 20 defensive player list. Only 1 UGA player made the list (24).
The Clemson OL is their weak link. But UGA's questionable and depleted DL lines up well for Clemson's OL. Clemson OL coach is former UGA OL coach Matt Luke. Luke knows UGA's defensive scheme well. He even knows some of the DL players from his time in Athens. Luke is an asset to Clemson for this game.
The way the '24 UGA D is shaping up with injuries and youth the '24 UGA D does not look to be as talented as the '23 D was. The youth on D will need to be developed at a very accelerated pace. This looks like a season where playing freshmen will be a necessity not a luxury. Offense will need to carry the defense maybe all season.
The key to beating Clemson will be pass rush and speeding up the Clemson QB. He seems pretty easy to speed up with pressure.
One thing that has not been discussed much is the strength of UGA's special teams. Excellent P, solid K and excellent coverage athletes w/speed led by all the reserve LB's, DB's and WR's.
A few points. Saying something is your superbowl and doing something about can be 2 very different things.
Clemson's DL may be very good. Their NT and Parker have talent. They could play tough at the beginning. if you look at their depth rotation it is not great and they have some undersized guys rotating in.
Now I will say the following and you can take it or leave it. The offensive line we have are monsters and experienced monsters at that. We will lean on this DL and it will have a real effect. All this superbowl talk doesn't mean squat when you are face to face with this OL. It is man on man brother. We will win this battle and they will be lucky to not leave injured. Just remember this.
The weakness of the Clemson D is their secondary. We should be able to take advantage of this especially with the running back passes (Etienne, Frazier and Cash). We are going to wear them out. Predicting 50 plus points scored on their D. May only be 20 by half but by 2nd half we will own them.
Now on our defense. Not sure what you are hearing or not hearing. What I'm hearing is we are closer to the 22 defense then the 23 defense. Linebackers are improved, talent is young on our 2nd rotation of DL but they are looking good.
I see a couple mistakes on coverage perhaps and maybe their TE breaks one but 20 points will be their high side and 10 on the low. Dawgs 52-13 is my prediction. Klubnik gets sacked a ton and turns it over 3 times. This defense is probably Kirby's 3rd best and may be the 2nd best by end of year.
I like your optimism. It won’t be a 10-3 defensive battle, but I believe Bobo and Kirby will keep the game plan simple if the dawgs are up by 17. I see more of a 34-20 final with a late TD by the tigers to get that close. Installed explosives by design will be limited, not saying a few tackles could be broken for long gains, but the playbook should be reserved for TX, Bama, and the playoffs
The issue with us salting away teams is we put in our 2nd team OL and our 4th and 5th running backs and who are those guys? Our 4th and 5th running backs are legitimate game breakers and they will score on you. Our 2nd team OL is no joke and they will make you look silly. I think we will see a lot of running backs for us score in the 4th quarter this year when we are just 'salting' the game away.
The buzz about the DL and LB is legit. Our secondary will be good for Clemson and elite by mid season. You'll see. I think we are going to put the college world on notice much like we did with Oregon 2 years ago.
JUst like BAMA I don't think we can come against Clemson and dominate their defense with our Oline and the run game. Hopefully I'm wrong. We will need to pass it to set up running when they're expecting a pass. Bobo will for sure test them with our run game early on but if they have two studs on their D-line, it's going to be tough sledding with the mentality of we're just going to line up and push them around. If we can do that though, the game will be a blowout. I just don't think we can. I'm hoping Bobo can channel his inner Todd Monken and come up with an attack that will keep Clemson guessing. Much like Monken did against MIchigan when they had a really good D-liine.
When Clemson hit LSU with an early almost knockout punch in the NC game, LSU and their awesome OC assistant didn't panick but just kept tossing it around the yard, because they had faith in Burrows and their offensive weapons.
THis is a game where the team with the best QB should win. I believe that to be UGA!
There is a lot at stake for Clemson in this game. Again I think you underestimate a pretty good team and overestimate based on a lot of unknowns. I believe you said the same thing about the '23 D that you are saying now about the '24 D. And looking back it could have been with 3, 22, 23, Logue and a healthy JDJ. JDJ slipping and getting hurt was the killer. All those guys are gone.
If you look at the '24 D it looks weaker than the '23 D at every level as we speak now based on '23 production and reasonable projections. The upside on the DL was primarily going to come from Hall and MWilliams. Now Hall is hurt and Williams may play more OLB. TID will be back but he hasn't been healthy for 2 years. Recovery from foot injuries in big players are unpredictable. CMiller needs to step up. He has also battled injuries. Stackhouse hasn't been overwhelming and the rest are young/unproven.
Someone (prob 2) HAS to step up BIG at OLB to have any chance to exceed '23 D let alone be mentioned w/'22 (really?). The ILB's are more sideline to sideline guys. If JWalker continues to split time at OLB there is no JDJ stonewall at ILB. Mondon has not been that guy in 3 yrs. The 2 freshmen didn't show much of that last year.
The UGA D lost Lassiter, TSmith and Bullard from the back end. And you expect the replacements to be better than those 3 guys? Really?
The starting UGA OL is averaging less than 320 lb. Clemson IDL Woods (5*) , Capehart and Burley avg as big or bigger than that. Not sure those guys would consider guys smaller than them "monsters". The Clemson DL MAY get warn down but it will take a while.
One of Clemson's starting CB's is the brother of a former 1st rd pick and a Falcon's starting CB. They have some guys that can play back there as well.
I don't see UGA scoring 50. I don't see UGA scoring 40. Hard to predict a score w/o knowing who is going to be hurt (or suspended). At this point I'd say 34-20 or 34-17.
You predict a lot of "growth" from all the young UGA players but none from the opposition's young players. The Clemson QB was a 5*. A lot of talent but the game hasn't slowed down for him yet. Reminds me of Bo Nix. Without an improved pass rush the Clemson QB could settle into a rhythm and be dangerous.
I guess we will find out who is right and who is wrong after the game Dad.
For someone who is a UGA fan you sure spend a lot of your time poo pooing the Dawgs. Not a good way to go through life but it is your life dude.
I can predict the scoring plenty good. I'm giving you information that most people pay for. If you want to argue with me so be it but the Vegas bookies are at 2 tds right now and they like to be right. I think it will be more, a lot more. This Georgia offense is like 2017 but with better qb and better wrs. Think about that…
As far as the injuries thing goes no one can control that. Just part of the game. No one knew how banged up we would be last year and still we were close to winning it all. Our depth is as good as anyones in the country.
It takes no time to address the obvious. There are more questions on the UGA D than sure things. That is the nature of CFB with graduation and transfers. You are expecting big things from guys that have no experience doing it, haven't done it yet or have had a chance to do it and haven't.
TID has 1 sack and 16 solo tackles in 23 games at UGA. Chambliss has 25 solo tackles and 2.5 sacks in 40 games. Stackhouse has 36 solo tackles and 3 sacks in 45 games (that is 1 sack/season avg). DJackson has 2 INT's in 33 games. All good players with experience but not guys that compare to their predecessors in terms of dominance. And guys not likely to dominate CFB playoff games or be highly drafted NFL players.
I could speculate and say that ERIV or KJ will be all Americans when they build strength and toughness but no one knows when or even if that will happen. Everything I said in the previous paragraph is fact. Anything else is just wishful thinking.
If you want to talk facts yes the UGA blue chip ratio ( i.e. "depth" before injuries) is top 3 or 4 in the country. But there is a lot of youth.
As for predicting scores UGA averaged what 40 ppg last season but only scored your "50" twice last season (throwing out the FSU scout team). UGA scored 31 or less pts in 5 games last season. More than 1/3 of the games. Clemson is expected to have a top 10 defense this season. It is not probable that UGA scores 50 in week 1. I would love to see it but I am not betting on it.
So if the Vegas odds are UGA is -14 and you said Clemson scores 13 how do you get to 50-13 from 27-13?
Very simply this is the best backfield we've had in many many years. When we get big leads, which we will do regularly and often guess what we do? We run the ball. This year when we put in our 3rd-5th string backs and our 2nd team OL do you want to know what is going to happen?
Yup, we will score again, and again.
Not concerned about Clemson. We will beat them like a rented mule. You can thank me later for the tip. Enjoy the ride 'UGA Dad'
@UGADad20 @BigDawg888 I think you’re both right!!! GO DAWGS!!
Again you're forecasting. The one thing we have learned over the last few years is that ALL the UGA RB's are rarely healthy at the same time.
Putting aside Cash Jones who is a walk on with a limited role, UGA has 3 freshmen RB's and 3 RB's with questions. The freshmen may make a contribution or have a role. Certainly Frazier will be very good by the time he leaves in 3 yrs. This year? Well freshmen are up and down. Let's say he gets in the Clemson game and takes a big boy football hit and fumbles. CKS may not put him back in until week 2. Either way it is risky to play Frazier much vs Clemson's D which is certain to blitz CBeck early and often. Trusting a guy that arrived on campus a mere few weeks ago to have mastered all the protections needed to protect the franchise (CBeck) is a risky proposition. We all know how risk averse CKS is.
Anything you get from the other 2 freshmen is gravy. Not expecting a lot this year. Bowens may have to have a big role vs Clemson due to BRob's and RRob's injuries and ETN's pending suspension situation. Phillips is a 170 lb 3rd down back. The same role as bigger and much more experienced CJones. Phillips not likely to play at all vs Clemson.
The RB position is the position guaranteed to take a lot of hits , by multiple players and from all angles. RRob seems to be following the Milton path at UGA. He was hurt last year and he is starting out hurt this year. His running style dictates that he takes a lot of hits. Like to see what he can do if he ever gets fully healthy. Still waiting. BRob is coming off a very serious injury. Rushing him back doesn't seem like the thing that UGA typically does. If he plays much vs Clemson it will be because RRob is hurt and ETN is suspended. ETN is a small RB. Overloading his touches will more likely result in missed time down the road.
ON PAPER, these guys all have high ceilings. In reality there are questions about all of them. Again you are underestimating the Clemson front 7. I believe CLE LB Barrett Carter (and Sammy Brown) was higher rated coming out of HS than any LB on the UGA roster except Justin Williams. He is a SR and probable NFL 1st round pick. Last time eventual NC team UGA went up against the Clemson D the O scored 3 pts and ZWhite, JCook, KMilton and KMcIntosh (that's a pretty good group) had a COMBINED 120 yards rushing.
Heard this morning on Buck Belue's (another homer) show that UGA O was going to average 40 ppg this year. Not likely. 1) the schedule is much tougher than last year's weak schedule that saw UGA barely avg 40 ppg. 2) Tougher schedule = closer games = CKS milking the clock = lower scoring games. 3) In whatever blowout games UGA does have this year we know that CKS plays everybody (including back up OL) and doesn't run up the score. 4) Expect the back up QB's to get much more playing time this season when they can. CKS has to find out what he has at QB for next year and get them experience. 5) do you expect UGA's wr's and TE's to be as good as last year?
All that equates to the UGA scoring less than 40 ppg this season.
I hope UGA blows out Clemson. It is good for UGA's in state recruiting to expose the Clemson program's decline. Clemson does not think it has declined. This will be their SB. The longer you let a team hang around the more dangerous it is. We will see how long Clemson hangs around and how the 2 O's do.