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Texas Temper Tantrum: SEC shouldn’t cater to Longhorns after **** fan behavior in loss to Georgia
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Texas Temper Tantrum: SEC shouldn’t cater to Longhorns after **** fan behavior in loss to Georgia
AUSTIN — It didn’t take long for Texas football to make a national impression as members of the SEC on Saturday night.
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Kirby was right: this display of obstreperous behavior that verged on violence set a precedence that if you're the home team and a call goes against you at a critical time, just raise Hell and litter the field with debris, and you'll get your way. Teams like Texas and Texas A&M could care less about fines; they have the "oil money" on their side, and if a fine is levied, well, that's money well spent, especially if it results in a "W."
Can we please kick texas (lowercase T intentional) out of the conference now? They're undeserving of being in the SEC after that. Let them go form the Longhorn conference with all the other texas teams. That way they can do things their way.
Congrats texas, y'all made a big @ss of yourselves in front of 12.9 million viewers!
GOOOOO DAWGS!
BEAT FLORIDA!
"seemingly headed in opposite directions entering the night."_____ @MikeGriffith
Seemingly. That's the key word. You guys are still trying to evaluate the Dawgs based on outdated criteria. They can't be evaluated with statistical data. That's NOT what drives them or defines them.
Just look at what Bowers is doing in Vegas. Imagine, if he had played on a team that lived and died by the pass…and, only had 1 starting TE. UGA has had 5 or 6, first rate tight ends over the last 4 years, backing each other up....and....are either currently on the team, in the pros or starting for other teams.
IMO...Same can be said, for pretty much, every position group, except WR.
It's common knowledge, that defenses are ahead of offenses, early in the season. I think Kirby takes advantage of that fact....by using his first few games [incl. UK] for training purposes. Running out of bland, no wrinkle defenses with a mission focused offense. I.e., work on the running game and run defense against the likes of Kentucky.
It's not hard to do, when you know, you can shut the other team down, anytime you need to, and score from anywhere on the field. With, maybe a little flea-flicker. Lol
UGA....is a professional team with no "equal", in CFB. Yet. Sarkisian is about as close as anybody has gotten, to Kirby's [and Saban] level of Elite. Where you can count on almost every player to give a certain level of expertise & effort.
The biggest variable in these close games...was the playbook and player rotation packages. Everybody got experience...and, everybody got "better". Cause, "Better Never Rests"....not even during the season.
I think it's amazing, that Kirby's able to do what he does...and, still win at a break-neck pace. It guarantees quality experienced depth for next year and the next...as long as he can recruit talent & keep guys in the Program bought-in. Everybody wins.
Sark is just getting to a point, where he will be able to do it, too. He's about where Kirby was in year 3 or 4....IMO.
@NorthHallDawg
I remember my Pops taking me to a Braves doubleheader vs the Reds, in the early '70's....when Mike Lum played there and had Lums Restaurant, in Atlanta.
They gave out a few thousand Lum's Frisbees to the first few thousand attendants. Lol...bad move.
There was a horrible call on the field that brought the Managers out. Fans were irate and started throwing Frisbees out on the field. Not me & my Brother...despite fans around us urging us to throw ours. I don't even know what the call was. Lol
They stopped the game for 15 or 20 minutes to clean it up.
When it happened a 2nd time, in game 2....which we DID participate in...and they cleaned the field of every remaining Frisbee in the stadium, it seemed. They came over the loud speaker and said, if it happened again, Atlanta would be forced to forfeit Game 2 of the Doubleheader.
IMO....Texas should have been forced to take the score on the board at the time of the infraction....GAME OVER!. If not, assessed 2 Personal Foul penalties [ala, UGA vs FLA 2008].…1 on the crowd and 1 on the Texas bench.
what better fodder to fill the bye week than controversy. Both readers and reporters have interesting material thanks to the multiple calls made Saturday. Gator week will be here soon enough. Until then, let’s continue the ref bashing. Kirby can’t, but we can!!
Lol...aint that the truth!
Kirby went about as far, as I've seen any coach go, in recent memory. He was short...and directly to the point of the matter. TThe"why" of needing to fix it.
"They tried to steal it from us.".…or words to that effect. UGA's season could've been on the line and he was protecting that. I don't think, they'll try it again, anytime soon. That was a shot across their bow. He may be willing to go a lot further, if pressed.
Lol...I bet Kirby has an "SEC Official" dossier, on hot standby.
Go get em Big Red.
Fyi....I was also thinking...that, the reason the SEC Commish, NCAA and SEC Officials haven't come out with a more transparent and satisfactory explanation of the sequence of events....is because, the Official in the booth [Review Official], buzzed down and told them
'they got the call wrong and the next play had not started....so go ahead and change the call before they have a riot.'____or something to that effect.
How do you clean that up, after the idiotic statement, they rushed out the door? Lol
Absolutely the replay person should be thrown into that melee mess for having Georgia score twice on the last scoring drive and not overturning the bad spot on 3rd down when we clearly got the first down.
The “officials” watched the replay on the big screen during the Texas Tantrum and decided to change it because they were afraid they wouldn’t make it out of the stadium if they didn’t change their minds. They aren’t supposed to do that with a non reviewable play after it has been announced, ball placed and the clock started. Picking up the flag comes BEFORE the announcement after they huddle.
SEC office, where is the comment on the “officials”?
This will most certainly happen again.
The Referee's aren't good enough to be perfect in every Big Game. They are bound to make another untimely bad call, in another Big Game of the future.
When that happens....The crowd will expect the officials to give em the ol' "Texas Two Step" treatment....cause, that's the standard now.
If it happens in College Station, Baton Rouge or UF....and they DON'T change the call...they just might, get a riot.
In some places.…they could get a riot if they DO change the call.
If UGA had lost that game....because, of that call.…all hell would've broken loose.
But....because there seemed to be no harm, no foul at the end of the game due to the "right team" winning the game....all's well that ends well???
Lol...I don't think so. They've created a monster. And, the longer they take to come out STRONG against it with a punishment relative to the crime....the bigger that monster will grow and the more damage it will reign down on CFB.
When is CFB gonna get some proactive leadership. I had mad respect for Sankey....Till now. He's just another jelly-back. Only, smarter....maybe. W
Why wasn't there a delay of game or unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against Texas? And, has Texas identified any of the offenders from the video as instructed by the SEC? Bet not!
Right???!!! Dang..The. Dawgs got 2 unsportsman-like penalties on the same play....for "excessive celebration", in the Great Endzone Swamp Stomp of 2008. I think that year is right. Urban Meyer was Florida's HC at the time. Lol
And Texas doesn't even get a warning??? Nothing?! Those referees must've been peeing their pants. Lol...they were just glad to make the fans happy, so they could get to their cars alive, after the game.
Right now...I'd say, there are a lot of cowards out there, in the SEC and Coaching Offices. Not willing to speak out hard on this, in fear of rocking the boat and losing a few dollars out of their 5 mil or so.
Well...the boat's already rockin' and it's only gonna get worse...till they put the bow to TRUE north. And...in the words of Don Merideth...."Tell it like it is".
If all a Coach has to fear, is a fine from the SEC Offices....they have nothing to worry about. They just fined a big ol' multi-billion dollar Institution [Texas], a whole $250,000. What amount could they possibly justify fining an individual Athletic Department employee...for a relatively minor rule violation?.
Lol...you're not supposed to steal another team's signs, either. Did they ever get any "fine money" out of Harbaugh and everybody else involved in that scheme or is that particular punishment reserved for coaches that talk about officiating. The University bore the brunt of that little Harbaugh fiasco, too.
And....who's rule is that, anyway. What document is keeping a Head Coach from speaking about officiating and making him susceptible to a monetary punishment or forfeiture.
Has THAT been challenged in court? Lately? Lol
At one time in my life, I was a bright eyed 19 year old having matriculated at our wonderful state university in Athens, GA. Catching a buzz with some regularity and, like most of my comrades in the student section, attempting to sneak in a pint of Jim Beam in my underwear or socks(Jack Daniels was WAY out of reach cost wise). Having spent many Saturdays in that realm in Sanford stadium, I can easily understand how a beer can could be launched out of the student section over a horrendous call on the field. Remember, this all happened from the student section—-not all Texas fans were involved. Besides, aren't we supposed to give "liquored up" 19 year olds a pass because as we all know they are truly dumba££&s at this age? Let's move on from this.
IMO....We can't move on from this...till it gets fixed. Somebody of stature, needs to come out strong against changing a non-reviewable call, after the ball has been placed and the call made. That doesn't include the little meetings they have, immediately after a call,
This is exactly why, you don't change your call....good, bad or ****. You have to stick with it for the integrity of the game. You start changing calls after Big Plays and you're asking for trouble.
Everybody, seems to be getting wrapped around the "validity of the call" axle.
IMO....THAT...doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things. And, the crowd's response was unfortunate and reprehensible....however, It was the "changed call" that was the most egregious failure on that field, that night. I can't get, why people don't see that? Lol...but, they WILL, in time.
There's a reason for everything the Officials have done, since CFB Time began. And, NOT changing a call after the fact, has many reasons behind it.
You wouldn't change a "ball" to a "strike"....just because Billy Martin came out and kicked dirt on your shoes. It just makes a bad call, worse. Next time...Billy might kick something else, to get his way. Lol
BigDawg61—-I agree totally with your premise of fixing the problem. I also agree with you that changing calls by the refs is a definite danger to the integrity of the game. I've been playing and watching football for some 60 years and have never seen this happen at any level. I looked at this as an outlier and not an ongoing problem.
Ya got me!...I've only been watching and playing, for 58 yrs. Lol
Below, is a post I made a few days ago on a similar story.…I thought you might be interested in commenting on it....or, not. Either way, I think we're on the same page...so, here it is.…
Technically...at the point the decision was made....the booth had more than enough time to review the play. If it was a play susceptible to review....the booth would've initiated it.
As far as i know....The officials on the field, do not have the authority to initiate a review or reverse a call that is considered non-reviewable by rule.....after the call is made, ball is spotted and ready for play.
The Referee's "change of heart" occurred after that and the bottle shower....while they were gathered up, shooting the breeze. Minutes after the ball was signaled ready for play.
I don't know what you do about something like this....I've never seen it before. Lol...and, they thought a "Challenge & Review Process" would eliminate most of the controversy surrounding referees.
If you ask me…it's gotten much worse. Maybe the Officials they're putting on the field, these days are under-qualified.
The thinking being....'With all those extra eyes on a play, Replay Officials and Challenge Flags....you don't need a great group of officials on the field....you need a great group of cameras with a qualified Booth Official.'
Well...It ain't workin'. We've got some of the worst officiating, from top to bottom...in the history of Football, in general. Officials are making some calls, they know may be wrong....counting on the eye-in-the-sky to keep it real. If the camera, Booth or Coach doesn't catch the bad call in time.…no review. Bad call lives on.
In the Texas case....all of the protocols were bypassed, to ensure the Home Team didn't kill em over a Bad Call.
Did the Officials feel threatened?....And, then changed the call? Did they feel, they were being extorted by the crowd. Lol....Maybe, they should've cleared the stadium in the area the bottles were flying from, to finish the game, safely.
Here's a question, nobody's askin'....
[if the Replay Official is there to monitor the game for replay review and adherence to the rules......WHY didn't they buzz down to tell the Field Judge that changing that call was NOT an option.
I'll tell ya why..…the Booth Official and TV announcers, were the ones that told the field judge...."they got the call wrong". They changed the call, in direct violation of the rules governing "Penalty Review and Challenge" protocols.
Pass Interference....Offensive or Defensive....is a "Judgment Call" on the part of the official....given various checkpoints and specific criterion. That official's judgment is the final word.
That's WHY it's NOT REVIEWABLE.....even if that Official, realizes he screwed his team by making the call....and....has a change of heart 5 minutes later.
Lol...Bul'logna....if the Official had known at the time, that Texas was gonna intercept it....he would've kept his flag in his pocket, or called Offensive PI. Give him a break.…he was trying to appear unbiased. He just picked an unfortunate...[for Texas].…time to do it. Lmao