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Nope- not a hail Mary. There was a progression of alternate routes with the other receivers that he could have gone to that weren't in the end zone but could have made the first down with a reception, and he chose that one. A hail-Mary would have sent all of the receivers to the end zone with a "hope and a prayer" that one of his players comes down with the ball.
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Thanks @navydawg - didn't know the origin. But when I hear the term, I always think of "Big Ben Right" when Bartkowski heaved a long one against the Cowboys a thousand years ago. Flutie was certainly a memorable one too, watched both those games.
Nonetheless, appreciate the info…
Yes Sir !! It was a very well executed play between the QB and WR. Both executed it to perfection. That’s was why I believe it was brought up in the article.
You’re more than welcome !! You brought up some way back memories, but good ones !!
AMEN !! True through out the ages and Still True today !!
Again I think you are taking the "Hail Mary" definition too literally. But that is your prerogative. If I choose to say a fairly long play for a TD on 4th down that requires perfect execution and a perfect pass that is extremely low % of success as a prayer worthy play , well that's my prerogative.
"There was a progression of alternate routes". There were a progression of routes. Much easier and higher % of completion for the 1st down routes. In fact, not taking the completion to Branch for an easy throw and catch 1st down has to make you wonder if the QB was locked into 1 route or was selecting the throw he made out of desperation? 4th down is desperation time.
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I'll take the high road. I apologize if I misinterpreted. Your previous frequent criticism of my benign GS comments led me to believe you were calling me out.
I have zero guilt about anything I have said about GS. I believe most if not all the things I have said about him have been proven accurate. I don't criticize GS nor do I defend him. I have said numerous times that he is a good player that, it would seem, all UGA fans admire and root for. But I have also pointed out things that he needs to improve on. And he has improved. Hopefully he will continue to improve. If UGA is to get to the elite level as a team this year it will have to be on the back of the QB.
Other than Justin Fields, I cannot think of another QB that has come to UGA in the last 10(?) years as highly decorated or with as much potential as GS with the possible exception of BVG. Though GS has the records and the experience edge over BVG. You guys are way TOO literal. When I say EVERY UGA fan does that mean 100%? C'mon man. I do believe every TRUE UGA fan wanted and expected GS to be a great CFB player. So no I don't speak for EVERY UGA fan but are you really a fan if you don't want GS to be a great player for UGA?
Nothing I wrote in my last comment was a "tirade". FAR from it. Other than maybe a couple of mild insults what I said was true. Like usual. But that is one of the problems with typing over talking. It can be misinterpreted.
I am not angry at all. I was wrong to assume. I have zero problem with anyone on this forum no matter how different our opinions may be. Or how often we agree or disagree.
BTW you are right. Roger Staubach coined the phrase "Hail Mary". Where you and @GoodOlDawg are wrong is that on the original Hail Mary the deep zone was not flooded with receivers. The Cowboys sent a lone WR (Drew Pearson) on a deep post pattern and Staubach let it fly. It was considered low % (prayer worthy) because of the length, degree of difficulty and time remaining on the clock ( 24 seconds). Kinda similar to the 4th and 6 play at TN…….
All I can say is you sure put allot of dressing on “taking the high road” for your “mild insults”. But I’m not gonna bear a grudge. Different people have different opinions. Some of what you say and what I say are opinion. And some of what you say are fact and some of what I say is fact. I don’t have a need to be right in everything as I’ve been wrong many times in life and I doubt it’ll be the last time I’m wrong.
The Hail Mary is I suppose the definition of what a Hail Mary Currently is considered. Footballs were originally made using pig skin but obviously they don’t use that material now though as slang many people still refer to it as pigskin. Many younger fans don’t even know who Roger Staubach is. And what has been referred to as a Hail Mary for the last I think I can safely say 50 + years is when a group of receivers Try ( they don’t always make it) to flood the end zone and the QB heaves it up Hoping one of them will catch it.
If you asked the vast majority of football fans 50 years old and younger I’m pretty sure that’s the definition you would get.
Regardless what I saw and apparently what GoodOlDawg saw and I bet many other Dawgs fans saw was a Planned, Called, and Perfectly executed play by Gunner and Humphreys not a Desperation I Hope he’ll catch it deal. But a Confident QB making a beautiful pass to a Confident WR. And that’s the implication I got from the article. I and GoodOlDawg didn’t see anything vaguely linked to a Hail Mary type pass and I’d be willing to bet if a poll were conducted most Dawgs fans saw the same. Never the less as you stated Correctly it is your prerogative as it is ours to call it anything you so choose. You’re perfectly entitled to your opinions but so am I and everyone else.
And though I’ve never tried to project myself as an Expert or Coach I’m headed on 69 years old and have listened to then watched CFB the majority of those years so I figure I might know a couple of things about the game to. And in the long run I’m just a fan of the Dawgs like You and millions of others are. I don’t have to push my point of view on someone else as it’s not gonna change the game plans at UGA even a smidgen. Like all fans I can throw my take out there and if others agree Fine, if they don’t Fine. I don’t have an incessant need to be right. And I enjoy the game and conversation about the game much more Because I’m not burdened with having to be Right all the time. Fan is a derivative of Fanatic or that’s my understanding. What we say doesn’t control the game nor does it change the history of the game.
My comment about knowing the minds of other fans had nothing to do with whether they are “True” Dawgs fans or not so true. I was saying strictly that you can’t assume to know the minds of other Dawgs fans. When the season first started there was a Mix opinion of how far we could go with Gunner. Some fans ( like Me) were pretty confident in him Some the exact opposite, Some in the middle. Many fans Knew his credentials Many didn’t.. That’s what I saw in My Opinion at the start of the season. Some were patient with him Others not so much. Those are the perceptions I had. I Think I don’t Know but I think my perceptions were held by others. So as Before which I was careful to maintain I’ll ignore you and it’s fine if you ignore me as I wouldn’t want you to have to “take the high road” with such a sincere apology as yours was after the “ mild insults” you made. Good day to you Sir. Hope you enjoy the game.
@navydawg I know quite a bit about Roger The Dodger Staubach. Staubach only played 10 years in the NFL mostly due to his delayed entry while fulfilling his Naval military requirement(4 years). But his did report to Cowboy's camp every pre-season where he spent his 30 day "furlough" honing his QB skills before his release from service in 1969. Retired in '79 partially from repeated concussions but still won 2 SB's for Tom Landry and the Cowboys. He is a very successful Dallas area businessman with his own commercial real estate business.
"And what has been referred to as a Hail Mary for the last I think I can safely say 50 + years is when a group of receivers Try ( they don’t always make it) to flood the end zone and the QB heaves it up Hoping one of them will catch it." As I said that isn't what happened on the original Hail Mary. There was only 1 receiver. #88 Drew Pearson. The original #88 that started the Cowboy WR tradition continued by Michael Irvin and CeeDee Lamb.
When you look at the GS to Humphrey 4th down TD vs TN you need to look at more than just a "group of WR's flooding the end zone". In that case it was a 28 yard TD. The QB was probably 7 -8 yards behind the LOS and the catch was probably 3 yards in the endzone. The ball was thrown from the center of the field to the edge of the endzone. My point is that 28 + 8 + 3 + diagonally = over 40 yards. That is not a pitch and catch throw on any route especially a route tight to the endzone sideline. That is a very low probability route and throw. That is a play you take a chance on on 1st down because it could work but if it doesn't you still have 2 downs to make the 1st.
To try that long shot, long pass on 4th down is a play that is as much luck to be made as it is skill. It was a perfect pass. How many perfect passes did GS throw today vs GT? Hence the hail Mary.