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A&M recruiting tactics. What do y'all think?

Teddy

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/22593204/jalen-ramsey-jacksonville-jaguars-calls-texas-aggies-assistant-recruiting-post

A&M using FSU DBs that made it to the NFL under Fisher as a recruiting tool on Twitter. Not sure this is the best tactic. I wouldn't want UGA posting all the Bama players Kirby helped get to the NFL all over twitter. I understand if you want to mention it in recruiting visits, but I don't want it on social media as it looks kind of desperate (especially since it shows you can't promote previous players at A&M). I haven't seen anything of the sort from UGA, so hope they've never done it.

What do y'all think? And I like Ramsey's response about how Fisher didn't help him once on being a DB.

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dbrown7494

Fisher knows out side of Kirk, the draft class of A&M is very weak. Not to mention Myles Garrett had a weak rookie season. From what was expected out of him. Fisher just trying to get his program out there. If he was going to do a Texas A&M poster it would have all lineman on it because they have produced a ton of lineman to the league. Which isn’t very attractive to skill position players. Plus Texas swept up all the top corners in the state last cycle. So he trying to show he can get them to the league. But Ramsey did poke a hole in the plan.

I have about decided that former FSU players must not like Fisher very much.

Teddy

@dbrown7494 said:
Fisher knows out side of Kirk, the draft class of A&M is very weak. Not to mention Myles Garrett had a weak rookie season. From what was expected out of him. Fisher just trying to get his program out there. If he was going to do a Texas A&M poster it would have all lineman on it because they have produced a ton of lineman to the league. Which isn’t very attractive to skill position players. Plus Texas swept up all the top corners in the state last cycle. So he trying to show he can get them to the league. But Ramsey did poke a hole in the plan.

I have about decided that former FSU players must not like Fisher very much.

Yeah, not sure if they do or don't like him. But at least it looks like they've got their school's back, and are trying to make sure A&M doesn't take any credit for their work. A&M does have 33 players on active rosters, but you're right most of the significant ones are o-line, with a few d-line, and then Mike Evans. That leaves a lot of holes to cover on the recruiting trail, when you're trying to show them you can get them to the league.

levander

Yeah, it was a mistake. How much would the poster really have gotten them if Jalen hadn’t said anything? And then Jalen decided to cross his old coach and say something. Now it’s a PR bumble..

It is a weird thing though. UGA and LSU both go for the title RBU. But when you change coaches and have an entirely different staff coaching the team and calling plays, they still call market it as RBU even though the new staff might babe doing something entirely different.

I’m not saying UGA isn’t RBU. UGA is probably more RBU under Kirby than it was under Richt. And I haven’t been keeping up with LSU. So I probably need a better example to me my point than RBU.

Maybe the better example is calling UGA RBU under Richt? They had a weak line and Richt emphasized passing heavily. But we still got great RB’s recruited, Chubb Michel Gurley all under Richt, even though we probably shouldn’t have.

moos

And Moreno...

Teddy

@levander said:
Yeah, it was a mistake. How much would the poster really have gotten them if Jalen hadn’t said anything? And then Jalen decided to cross his old coach and say something. Now it’s a PR bumble..

It is a weird thing though. UGA and LSU both go for the title RBU. But when you change coaches and have an entirely different staff coaching the team and calling plays, they still call market it as RBU even though the new staff might babe doing something entirely different.

I’m not saying UGA isn’t RBU. UGA is probably more RBU under Kirby than it was under Richt. And I haven’t been keeping up with LSU. So I probably need a better example to me my point than RBU.

Maybe the better example is calling UGA RBU under Richt? They had a weak line and Richt emphasized passing heavily. But we still got great RB’s recruited, Chubb Michel Gurley all under Richt, even though we probably shouldn’t have.

I think UGA and LSU can lay claim to RBU since they've had some of the best backs spanning decades, coaching changes, and the shift in more pass happy offenses. That's how you get to make claims such as RBU, DBU, etc. When you've transcended multiple coaching staffs and still done it at the highest level. Riding the coattails of another team isn't a good look for A&M.

MIghtydawg

Texas A&M put out the poster to try to combat LSU's recruiting niche as DBU. aTm is trying to say that our coaching staff put alot of DBs in the league so come here instead of LSU.

Thelordjohnson

RBU is UGA before Richt (Herschel, etc), during Richt (Moreno, Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Michel), and now after Richt (Swift, Zeus,...)

LSU actually could lay a better claim as DBU (although FSU has better HOFs).

JRT812

@Thelordjohnson said:
RBU is UGA before Richt (Herschel, etc), during Richt (Moreno, Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Michel), and now after Richt (Swift, Zeus,...)

LSU actually could lay a better claim as DBU (although FSU has better HOFs).

Have no idea why that was down voted. I agrees with the comment

Thelordjohnson

@JRT812 said:

@Thelordjohnson said:
RBU is UGA before Richt (Herschel, etc), during Richt (Moreno, Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Michel), and now after Richt (Swift, Zeus,...)

LSU actually could lay a better claim as DBU (although FSU has better HOFs).

Have no idea why that was down voted. I agrees with the comment

Its life I dont even react anymore lol

JoelSidneyKelly

@Thelordjohnson said:
RBU is UGA before Richt (Herschel, etc), during Richt (Moreno, Chubb, Gurley, Marshall, Crowell, Michel), and now after Richt (Swift, Zeus,...)

LSU actually could lay a better claim as DBU (although FSU has better HOFs).

USCjr > FSU at getting DBs to play in the league over the last ten years.
Also, Tex, OSt, Bama, LSU >FSU
Using the CBS formula (NFL starts, Pro Bowl appearances, draft selections, first round picks) FSU ranks third in the state of Florida.
But Deion Sanders was the greatest, and second place is lagging way behind.

KobeBryant

All is fair in recruiting so long as it's legal. Jimbo is trying to get A&M to an elite level and change the soft culture down there in Aggieland. (In this respect, very similar to what Kirby did). To do that, he needs to recruit perennial top ten classes. (Sumlin was a decent recruiter but not exceptional, which led to the state being poached.) Anything legal - or at least not egregiously illegal - is a means to that end. It's working so far as he's got a pair of safeties committed who the whole country wants and they're in the lead for many other blue chip -
Including cornerbacks and OTs that we want - prospects. More power to him as far as I'm concerned. The more elite kids that stay in state and sign with A&M (and Texas, TCU, Baylor, etc.) represent a kick in the knees to Saban, Meyer, & Harbaugh.

donm

@KobeBryant said:
All is fair in recruiting so long as it's legal. Jimbo is trying to get A&M to an elite level and change the soft culture down there in Aggieland. (In this respect, very similar to what Kirby did). To do that, he needs to recruit perennial top ten classes. (Sumlin was a decent recruiter but not exceptional, which led to the state being poached.) Anything legal - or at least not egregiously illegal - is a means to that end. It's working so far as he's got a pair of safeties committed who the whole country wants and they're in the lead for many other blue chip -
Including cornerbacks and OTs that we want - prospects. More power to him as far as I'm concerned. The more elite kids that stay in state and sign with A&M (and Texas, TCU, Baylor, etc.) represent a kick in the knees to Saban, Meyer, & Harbaugh.

And UGA?

KobeBryant

@donm said:

@KobeBryant said:
All is fair in recruiting so long as it's legal. Jimbo is trying to get A&M to an elite level and change the soft culture down there in Aggieland. (In this respect, very similar to what Kirby did). To do that, he needs to recruit perennial top ten classes. (Sumlin was a decent recruiter but not exceptional, which led to the state being poached.) Anything legal - or at least not egregiously illegal - is a means to that end. It's working so far as he's got a pair of safeties committed who the whole country wants and they're in the lead for many other blue chip -
Including cornerbacks and OTs that we want - prospects. More power to him as far as I'm concerned. The more elite kids that stay in state and sign with A&M (and Texas, TCU, Baylor, etc.) represent a kick in the knees to Saban, Meyer, & Harbaugh.

And UGA?

donm

Will it affect our recruiting in TX?

JeffSentell

Sketch play here. If the school or DB coach isn't the same, I'd walk away.

Six Degrees of Separation is cool for that Kevin Bacon game. Not so cool for 'crootin edits. There should far better things that A&M likely has to promote their program than claiming fruit off the FSU tree.

Just go with the Fisher QB tree. That makes much more sense.

The biggest reach for me was the perception that those were Fisher's DBs. That guy didn't really work with that position on a day-to-day basis.