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The cows have come home to roost with The Braves' bullpen..

WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

Snitker has exhausted them, and it's just July 1st...yikes. They've given up 5 runs in just the 7th inning after Folty 2 hit The Cards for 6 innings.

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  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Sorry, Folty 1 hit them for 5 innings.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 7,109 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Braves starters this series: 17 2/3 innings, 0 runs
    Braves relievers this series: 7 1/3 innings, 10 runs

  • cf_ugamancf_ugaman Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yea the bullpen has been **** hardcore. I've never been that impressed with moylan...

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @cf_ugaman said:
    Yea the bullpen has been **** hardcore. I've never been that impressed with moylan...

    @cf_ugaman said:
    Yea the bullpen has been **** hardcore. I've never been that impressed with moylan...

    Moylan once had a truly great sinker, but injuries and perhaps his love of partying have rendered him spotty.

  • SWGADAWGSWGADAWG Posts: 248 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Need two more good arms, I like our 8th and 9th inning guys but that 5-7 has killed us

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @SWGADAWG said:
    Need two more good arms, I like our 8th and 9th inning guys but that 5-7 has killed us

    It won't matter if they add arms and just wear them out too.
    They CAN'T add numbers till Sep., so they'd have to send 2 down or release them to add more relievers.
    They are going to have to get more innings from starters at some point soon.

  • coastaldawgcoastaldawg Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Starters have been good, but too often they are throwing too many pitches and are over 100 pitches after 6 innings. Bullpen is being overworked, but I don"t put the blame on Snitker. Have to upgrade bullpen and get rid of Sam Freeman and Moylan.

  • SWGADAWGSWGADAWG Posts: 248 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @WCDawg said:

    @SWGADAWG said:
    Need two more good arms, I like our 8th and 9th inning guys but that 5-7 has killed us

    It won't matter if they add arms and just wear them out too.
    They CAN'T add numbers till Sep., so they'd have to send 2 down or release them to add more relievers.
    They are going to have to get more innings from starters at some point soon.

    The problem isn’t just the Braves.. pitchers across the league are not pitching deep into the game. The quality arms we have in the 5-7 inning range is not where it needs to be

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Crap, I spent 15 minutes researching, doing the math and posting how every reliever has done over their past 10 outtings compared to their season ERA only to have the post vanish when I tried to edit it?
    I'm too lazy to re-post the whole thing right now.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Relievers ERA

                                                 Last 10 outtings                                        Season to date
    

    Crashing
    Freeman-------------------14.5--------------------------------`5.03
    Moylan---------------------12.4-------------------------------4.85
    Carle-----------------------5.94-------------------------------2.93
    Winkler---------------------7.5--------------------------------2.41

    So far, so good
    AJ Minter.......................................1.1--------------------------------2,83
    Biddle----------------------2.37-------------------------------2.76
    Vizcaino---------------------0.00------------------------------1.83

    Vizcaino was injured on June 17th, hes scheduled to return tomorrow, he was on a role when his shoulder got sore.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I give up, it actually posted numbers in reverse.
    In a nutshell Minter, and Biddle have done well their last 10 times out. Freeman, Winkler and Moylan have been awful and Vizcaino has been injured, but he hadn't given up a run in 10 outtings when he went down.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @WCDawg said:
    Relievers ERA

                                                 Last 10 outtings                                               Season to date
    

    Crashing
    Freeman-------------------14.5--------------------------------`5.03
    Moylan---------------------12.4-------------------------------4.85
    Carle-----------------------5.94-------------------------------2.93
    Winkler---------------------7.5--------------------------------2.41

    So far, so good
    AJ Minter.......................................1.1--------------------------------2,83
    Biddle----------------------2.37-------------------------------2.76
    Vizcaino---------------------0.00------------------------------1.83

    Vizcaino was injured on June 17th, hes scheduled to return tomorrow, he was on a role when his shoulder got sore.

  • christopheruleschristopherules Posts: 15,814 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    ****, the software list it backwards somehow. The numbers to the left are actually their last 10 games, the numbers to the right are season to date.

  • georgiaboygeorgiaboy Posts: 846 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The bullpen has been ass all year. We've easily lost 10-12 games that we should've won. The biggest being a 10-2 (I think) lead at Chicago that turned into a loss.

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