What is Adam Sasser alleged to have shouted at Justin Fields ?

levander

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

WCDawg

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

''you liberals'' the fact you equate my not embracing an institution that had a foundation build on human ownership and was traitorous to MY country as being liberal pretty much says it all.

pgjackson

The Civil War was not "treasonous" because at the time the "States" were actually independent countries with their own individual governments united under a federal government for the common defense...a lot like the modern EU. The southern states assumed they had the right to leave (and a lot of northerners agreed). They weren't trying to overthrow and replace the federal government, they just wanted to leave and do their own thing. Lincoln was under tremendous pressure by northern politicians to just let them go, but thankfully he saw it another way. It's also partly why Lincoln make sure that confederate soldiers received full U.S. status after the war. It's also why there are so many Confederate statues in the south...they are technically heroes of an American war, not a rebellious uprising.

levander

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

''you liberals'' the fact you equate my not embracing an institution that had a foundation build on human ownership and was traitorous to MY country as being liberal pretty much says it all.

You’re so confused at trying to come up with a sensible perspective at this point that you’re making things up out of thin air. No where did I claim you are a liberal because you are against slavery or because you have taken a short sighted opinoin on a historical event a hundred and fifty years ago. I called you a liberal because you’ve made it very clear on the board in the past that you are a liberal.

And I didn’t call you a liberal as an insult. I was trying to point out I was giving you a resource ensconced in your political philosophies that you could actually learn something from.

WCDawg

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

''you liberals'' the fact you equate my not embracing an institution that had a foundation build on human ownership and was traitorous to MY country as being liberal pretty much says it all.

You’re so confused at trying to come up with a sensible perspective at this point that you’re making things up out of thin air. No where did I claim you are a liberal because you are against slavery or because you have taken a short sighted opinoin on a historical event a hundred and fifty years ago. I called you a liberal because you’ve made it very clear on the board in the past that you are a liberal.

And I didn’t call you a liberal as an insult. I was trying to point out I was giving you a resource ensconced in your political philosophies that you could actually learn something from.

blah, blah, blah
You're a dead end thinker.

levander

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

''you liberals'' the fact you equate my not embracing an institution that had a foundation build on human ownership and was traitorous to MY country as being liberal pretty much says it all.

You’re so confused at trying to come up with a sensible perspective at this point that you’re making things up out of thin air. No where did I claim you are a liberal because you are against slavery or because you have taken a short sighted opinoin on a historical event a hundred and fifty years ago. I called you a liberal because you’ve made it very clear on the board in the past that you are a liberal.

And I didn’t call you a liberal as an insult. I was trying to point out I was giving you a resource ensconced in your political philosophies that you could actually learn something from.

blah, blah, blah
You're a dead end thinker.

I tried to give you an avenue where you could educate yourself. Rather than seek education, you preferred to blatantly misinterpret and use your fainting couch because someone, rightfully, called you a liberal. I gave you a venue to educate yourself. You were the one who could only see a dead end.

WCDawg

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@levander said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:

@WCDawg said:

@pgjackson said:
Nobody should use that word, ever. Nobody, white or black or any other race. There really isn’t another word in the English language that is so offensive, grotesque and mean-spirited. But the music industry seems to have no problem with it so it’s constantly thrown in people’s faces in the name of “keeping it real”. People like to sing along with songs, the guys are practically forcing people to use the word. That word is never going to go away if it is accepted in any form regardless of race or culture. People want to tear down Confederate statues...how about tearing down musicians who use the word in almost every song?

Just don’t use the word in any situation for any reason....ever.

You seem to be conflating to support your politics..

People want to tear down symbols of racism. That word is probably the biggest symbol of racism in this country. Get rid of it entirely. That is all.

I agree, but we can stop using the word AND remove symbols of The Confederacy, that's what I meant by conflating. It's not an either/or thing.

The Native American genocide was probably worse than slavery. Why not tear down symbols of America too?

The confederacy is a part of our history. Hiding it is not gonna help.

The NAZIs are part of German history, do we have statues to honor slavery ?
The Confederacy was traitorous to my country and my ideas of right and wrong, I have no interest in romanticizing it.

The Nazi movement over here was no ever anything more than a few fringe freaks. I have no idea why you would want to honor a movement in another country.

You clearly have no understanding of history if you think the traitorous issue is somehow cut and dry. At the time it was a controversy as to whether or not states should be able to secede. Some people thought they should be able to secede, others thought they shouldn’t be able to. And it wasn’t just southerners who thought they should be able to. The North never would have won the Civil War if it would have required nearly the percentage of resources that was required of the South. The North didn’t consider the dispute nearly as important as the South did.

You’re basically using the knowledge that is taught to fifth graders as they are being indoctrinated into our system in school. And using that as the factual basis to form a very strong, bigoted opinoin on.

I've been over this many times.
I have no use for The Confederacy's legacy other than to say it was a vile failure.
There's no convoluted case you can make that I haven't seen many times.

You pretty much just proved my point about bigoted.

You really have no idea how you just parrot ignorant myths that have been passed down to southerners since Reconstruction, it's not knowledge, it's perverse and backward ideology.
I'll leave it at that, you're probably incapable of more.

The guy who got The Civil War most right to me was Ken Burns. A guy lauded by you liberals and is the flagship director of you guy’s most vaunted media outlet, PBS. If you want to actually know anything about the history of the war, you should watch his documentary series on it. It’s very easy to watch. It was a popular hit back when it was first released back in the late 80’s/early 90’s (can’t remember exactly).

Nothing I’ve said above goes anything outside of what he said about the war. And I really just scratch at the surface.

''you liberals'' the fact you equate my not embracing an institution that had a foundation build on human ownership and was traitorous to MY country as being liberal pretty much says it all.

You’re so confused at trying to come up with a sensible perspective at this point that you’re making things up out of thin air. No where did I claim you are a liberal because you are against slavery or because you have taken a short sighted opinoin on a historical event a hundred and fifty years ago. I called you a liberal because you’ve made it very clear on the board in the past that you are a liberal.

And I didn’t call you a liberal as an insult. I was trying to point out I was giving you a resource ensconced in your political philosophies that you could actually learn something from.

blah, blah, blah
You're a dead end thinker.

I tried to give you an avenue where you could educate yourself. Rather than seek education, you preferred to blatantly misinterpret and use your fainting couch because someone, rightfully, called you a liberal. I gave you a venue to educate yourself. You were the one who could only see a dead end.

You're so 1860...in the bad way.