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College Football Playoff expert: Georgia not among top tier playoff contenders

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,776 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

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  • stonestone Posts: 399 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited August 2021

    @E_Roc Texas and last year UF. What you are saying about OU could easily be said about OSU and Clemson as far as playing in an easy conference. You base your position on UGA vs OU. I assure you when the dawgs win 8 conference championships in a row and are in the playoffs 3 out of 4 years they will be a tier 1 team.

  • BassDawgBassDawg Posts: 125 ✭✭✭ Junior
  • E_RocE_Roc Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2021

    Two indirect comparisons over the 7- year history of the playoff era. Even putting aside the argument over how accurately that loss to Texas reflected the quality of that Georgia team (3 years ago), that's not much support for placing OU in a whole tier above Georgia.

    A beat B and B beat C has never exactly been a reliable basis for directly comparing teams A and C. If you're going to go there, I would have to see a much stronger set of examples to take that argument seriously.

  • E_RocE_Roc Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Well, I would certainly hope winning 8 straight SEC titles would put us in the top tier, but that's hardly the same thing as winning Big 12 titles. And if we were to go however long you might suggest without ever winning a playoff game, I would expect the same response I'm giving from fans of a program that has beaten us in the playoff but still ranked below us. But it's kind of hard to argue this point, because it's hard to identify a comparable situation - Georgia somehow coasting to the playoff most years with the help of minimal resistance from its conference, then never winning a playoff game, while another program has to beat the kinds of teams Georgia keeps losing to in the post-season just to get there in the first place. I'm not sure how that scenario would ever play out, so I'm not sure how relevant that hypothetical is.

  • E_RocE_Roc Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    And just to be clear, I'm not arguing that Georgia should be in that top tier. I've got no problem at all with us having to earn it with one or more national titles. My point is that when a team like Oklahoma is put in that tier, there seems to be an emphasis on how easy a path that team is given in assessing how GOOD that team is, which is pretty hard to take seriously.

  • stonestone Posts: 399 ✭✭✭ Junior

    The one thing all four teams have in common is they pretty consistently win their conferences. It is something that cannot be said about the teams rated below them.

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 2,013 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited August 2021

    I understand what you are saying and probably think this is why OU is considered by this analyst as being in Tier 1. However, winning the Big 12 is easier most years than winning the SEC. We all know that. We did lose to Texas recently and yes, OU did beat Auburn in the '17 Sugar Bowl, and an 8-4 FL team in '20. BUT, OU also got pummeled by LSU in '19, lost to Bama in '18, and lost to the Dawgs in '17. Oklahoma also has lost at least 2 games every season since 2015. I just don't see them as an honest Tier 1 team. I really don't. Especially when you look closely at some of teams they have lost to since 2015 - Houston, Texas (twice), Kansas State (twice), and Iowa State (twice). I also would add that OU has made the playoffs multiple years, BUT they NEVER get past the semis. Does that mean they don't belong in the first place? In my estimation, most times the answer to that question is a resounding YES.

    Personally, I am beyond ready to realign the SEC divisions. They are very lopsided. I am hoping we get TX and OU playing in the SEC sooner than 2025-26 or whenever their contract with the Big 12 runs out. My bet is they pay the fine for breaking early with the Big 12, and we realign things within the next couple of years.

  • Joe31Joe31 Posts: 1,500 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It will not surprise me if OU and Texas debut in the SEC before 2025. I’m not saying they will pay the money (although they might), but before long cooler heads will prevail. Many people are upset with the recent turn of events, but if the Big 12 hopes to rebound, isn’t it in their best interest to move on asap? If the Big 12 is done, then what’s the point of dragging anything out just to stick it to OU and Texas?

  • stonestone Posts: 399 ✭✭✭ Junior

    @MontanaDawg if memory serves me correctly everyone got pummeled by LSU. I would agree with you about the divisions. It does not take much to win the East when compared to the West which goes a long way in explaining why teams from the West win the SECCG.

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