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Vol fans are hilariously hopeful re: Pruitt

Bankwalker

My wife’s family lives in Knoxville. Over the holidays I got to hear from everyne about what a miraculous salvage job Pruitt had pulled off in the early period, and now my neighbor down the street called to thump his chest about how Pruitt had landed JJ Peterson and lifted their class up to 16th on 247 and 14 on rivals. He was especially proud of the fact Peterson is from Georgia and chose UT with a Georgia hat sitting on the table.

I wanted laugh but I dont want to make my neighbor mad. First of all, with the available playing time and small number of commitments Pruitt inherited, pushing their class in the top 20 was a given just by simply picking up the crumbs. JJ Peterson was going to sign with Pruitt regardless of the school because of Probst. I dont think UGA was really still recruiting the kid, so it seems the UGA hat on the table was just a publicIty stunt by Pruitt to make Vol fans feel better about Cade Mays.

Congrats Vol fans. You will finish with a Top 15 class, which will be good for middle of the road in conference and signifcantly trailing your two primary roadblocks to the SEC title - UGA and annual west opponent Alabama. Guess what? You are still pretty much right where you would have been if you had retained Butch Jones. Possibly worse.

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Dawggoned

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

donm

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

Well if Pruitt is his own man (which I sure think he is) and meddlin' Phil thinks he himself is going to run the FB program (which has been alluded to in previous posts) then that will be meltdown to rival Chernobyl.

UnderDog68

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

The reason I say so is because Fulmer has made it pretty clear that he will be micro-managing the program. With a hot-head like Pruitt, it probably won't go well to have an AD constantly second-guessing and putting his nose in all the time.

Dawggoned

@donm said:

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

Well if Pruitt is his own man (which I sure think he is) and meddlin' Phil thinks he himself is going to run the FB program (which has been alluded to in previous posts) then that will be meltdown to rival Chernobyl.

Don't know if Fulmer is going to actually run the program but his ghost will be everywhere Pruitt walks.

UnderDog68

@Dawggoned said:

@donm said:

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

Well if Pruitt is his own man (which I sure think he is) and meddlin' Phil thinks he himself is going to run the FB program (which has been alluded to in previous posts) then that will be meltdown to rival Chernobyl.

Don't know if Fulmer is going to actually run the program but his ghost will be everywhere Pruitt walks.

IMO, Pruitt is being set up to be a puppet coach while Fulmer pulls a lot of the strings. Fulmer is a back-stabber, as he has shown on more than one occasion. As soon as UT isn't as successful as Fulmer thinks they should be, I am predicting that he fires Pruitt and makes himself the head coach.....which is what he wanted in the first place.

Dawggoned

@UnderDog68 said:

@Dawggoned said:

@donm said:

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

Well if Pruitt is his own man (which I sure think he is) and meddlin' Phil thinks he himself is going to run the FB program (which has been alluded to in previous posts) then that will be meltdown to rival Chernobyl.

Don't know if Fulmer is going to actually run the program but his ghost will be everywhere Pruitt walks.

IMO, Pruitt is being set up to be a puppet coach while Fulmer pulls a lot of the strings. Fulmer is a back-stabber, as he has shown on more than one occasion. As soon as UT isn't as successful as Fulmer thinks they should be, I am predicting that he fires Pruitt and makes himself the head coach.....which is what he wanted in the first place.

" I am predicting that he fires Pruitt and makes himself the head coach.....which is what he wanted in the first place."

Maybe. I can see him bringing Cutcliffe in as head coach ..... https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/coaching-rumors-tennessee-believe-phillip-fulmer-become-ad-hire-david-cutcliffe-coach .....if Pruitt doesn't produce immediate results. I'm giving Pruitt two years to win the SEC Championship or he's a goner IMO.

UnderDog68

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@Dawggoned said:

@donm said:

@Dawggoned said:

@UnderDog68 said:

@greshamdisco said:
Remind them that while they took a step forward with hiring Pruitt, we have taken several steps forward with our recruiting and are way ahead already from where most thought we’d be. They got a four star. Congrats. We got a dozen and six five stars - so far. They should focus on beating Vandy first. They won ZERO conference games. To quote the great David Bellamy, “Humble yourself.”

They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD.

"They took a step forward with Pruitt, but took 2 backward by re-hiring Fulmer as AD."

I'm not so sure of that

Well if Pruitt is his own man (which I sure think he is) and meddlin' Phil thinks he himself is going to run the FB program (which has been alluded to in previous posts) then that will be meltdown to rival Chernobyl.

Don't know if Fulmer is going to actually run the program but his ghost will be everywhere Pruitt walks.

IMO, Pruitt is being set up to be a puppet coach while Fulmer pulls a lot of the strings. Fulmer is a back-stabber, as he has shown on more than one occasion. As soon as UT isn't as successful as Fulmer thinks they should be, I am predicting that he fires Pruitt and makes himself the head coach.....which is what he wanted in the first place.

" I am predicting that he fires Pruitt and makes himself the head coach.....which is what he wanted in the first place."

Maybe. I can see him bringing Cutcliffe in as head coach ..... https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee/coaching-rumors-tennessee-believe-phillip-fulmer-become-ad-hire-david-cutcliffe-coach .....if Pruitt doesn't produce immediate results. I'm giving Pruitt two years to win the SEC Championship or he's a goner IMO.

I guess Saban isn't as protective of assistants now as he was when other programs came calling for Kirby years back.

And yes, I an referring to the time we wanted him here as DC under Richt and Saban convinced him to stay at Alabama until he could be the head coach at UGA.

strange_noah

I think Pruit is a coin flip hire. I mean I know he’s had success as a coordinator but hearing all the hope from UT fans is kinda crazy sometimes with their expectations. (I am a student at UT) But with that said there is so much variation in the results of hiring coordinators. You have upper tier like a Mullen, Smart, or Riley and then you have Muschamp, Mcelwain, and Strong. Sure most can recruit and we know Pruit can but Butch could recruit. This should be a more wait and see hire for me if I were a UT fan. With that said I don’t think it’s a bad hire but out of all the assistants you could get I would’ve wanted Brent Venables at Clemson well before Pruit.

UnderDog68

@strange_noah said:
I think Pruit is a coin flip hire. I mean I know he’s had success as a coordinator but hearing all the hope from UT fans is kinda crazy sometimes with their expectations. (I am a student at UT) But with that said there is so much variation in the results of hiring coordinators. You have upper tier like a Mullen, Smart, or Riley and then you have Muschamp, Mcelwain, and Strong. Sure most can recruit and we know Pruit can but Butch could recruit. This should be a more wait and see hire for me if I were a UT fan. With that said I don’t think it’s a bad hire but out of all the assistants you could get I would’ve wanted Brent Venables at Clemson well before Pruit.

Pruitt has been the beneficiary of jumping into jobs where the cupboard was full of talent....First at FSU (National Title in 2013), and Alabama...(National Title in 2017). Tennessee has some talent, but not enough right now to make him an instant success. Believe you me, if he isn't contending for the SEC by the end of year two, the rumblings of him being on the hot seat will begin. I have already had a couple of UT fans tell me that they expect to go 8-4 or 9-3 the first year with a second place finish in the East behind UGA or UF. And I just don't see that happening the first year.

JayDog

@UnderDog68 said:

@strange_noah said:
I think Pruit is a coin flip hire. I mean I know he’s had success as a coordinator but hearing all the hope from UT fans is kinda crazy sometimes with their expectations. (I am a student at UT) But with that said there is so much variation in the results of hiring coordinators. You have upper tier like a Mullen, Smart, or Riley and then you have Muschamp, Mcelwain, and Strong. Sure most can recruit and we know Pruit can but Butch could recruit. This should be a more wait and see hire for me if I were a UT fan. With that said I don’t think it’s a bad hire but out of all the assistants you could get I would’ve wanted Brent Venables at Clemson well before Pruit.

Pruitt has been the beneficiary of jumping into jobs where the cupboard was full of talent....First at FSU (National Title in 2013), and Alabama...(National Title in 2017). Tennessee has some talent, but not enough right now to make him an instant success. Believe you me, if he isn't contending for the SEC by the end of year two, the rumblings of him being on the hot seat will begin. I have already had a couple of UT fans tell me that they expect to go 8-4 or 9-3 the first year with a second place finish in the East behind UGA or UF. And I just don't see that happening the first year.

Year two better find Pruitt at least fielding a competitive team or the fanbase will turn on him. They are more rabid than some of the Georgia fans who wanted to fire Kirby in year one.