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WATCH: Kirby Smart takes epic stand against Tim Tebow, Cocktail Party in Jacksonville

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  • pepinpepin Posts: 52 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Two things.

    1. I wish people would quit saying "Tebow won 2 titles at Florida." Unless that 2nd title is the 2008 SEC title, it didn't happen. Chris Leak won the 2006 title. Tebow's role on that team was basically as their fullback. His only meaningful passes that year were the 2 against LSU.
    2. Keep it "the world's largest cocktail party" and it is still broadcast on national TV even if both teams go 2-10 (or one team goes 12-0 and the other goes 0-12) because of the unique opportunity that it offers the TV networks (neutral site game in an NFL stadium with the world's largest tailgate and a crowd that goes crazy all game long regardless of what happens during it). But turn move it from Jacksonville and it is just another game between a pair of southern state land grant schools that basically nobody in the national media attended or knows anything about. The game will have to compete against a bunch of similar ones between schools in other areas of the country that represent larger markets and members of the media actually did attend i.e. bigger Big 10 games in general (especially now that USC and UCLA are joining). Even in the SEC, Florida-Georgia is going to fall in the pecking order behind the Texas/Oklahoma/A&M/LSU stuff on the western half of the conference as well as generally behind Alabama-Auburn, Alabama-Florida and Alabama-Tennessee on the eastern side.

    Kirby's claim that it is better for recruiting makes no sense. UGA already has the best recruiting situation in the country. Georgia is the only school with a top 4 talent market that it has to itself. Texas (UT, A&M, Baylor, TCU), Florida (FSU, UF, UM) and California (USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal) all have to split theirs. Yes, Tech is technically in this state, but since Tech foolishly fired Chan Gailey because their idiot fanbase wanted the "exciting" George O'Leary days back again, Tech only signs maybe 1 guy that UGA kinda sorta wants every 2 years. If Smart needs to end the WLOCP in order to make the recruiting advantage that they already have over Alabama - who actually does lose several guys that they really want to Auburn every year - even bigger then it is only because Smart wants to recruit Georgia (and Carolina and Florida) kids less in favor of recruiting Texas, California, Pennsylvania, D.C. and New Jersey kids more. As you absolutely do not need those kids to win national titles, it isn't worth killing off a guaranteed annual national TV date that the networks prioritize for it in favor of making Georgia-Florida just another game.

    Let's say 5 years from now Arthur Blank backs a Brinks truck up to Smart, who by then will have added a couple more rings to his collection, to take over the Falcons. Smart will have to take the money: it is in the best interests for his family. In that case the guy who claimed that he personally needed to end the WLOCP for recruiting will have flown the coop. Saban will almost certainly have retired by then in this scenario also, meaning the whole college football landscape will be totally different, possibly nationalized. Smart's successors will be the ones with the "boy it sure would have been nice if we still had that guaranteed national TV date in a sport that is now totally built around television!" stance. What will you folks say then?

  • DogsNotDawgsDogsNotDawgs Posts: 1,703 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Terrible leaps in logic. So filled with hate for CKS that they can’t think straight.

  • JBMDawg46JBMDawg46 Posts: 518 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Kirby is right on the obvious advantages of playing Florida in Athens every other year. While I’m clearly “old school” and grew up a huge fan of the Jacksonville it’s time to understand it’s a new day and time. Hoping the Jacksonville agreement is not renewed.

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited July 2022

    I agree, Kirby doesn't need a penny of Blank's dollars. Why leave a proven winner in UGA anyway, and go to the always hapless falcons, no matter the monetary amount? Complete nonsense..

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 2,060 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Might even be even bigger rivalry if it was a Athens/Gainesville matchup. Also agree with Atlanta/Jacksonville, as stated by several posts. It's within a few miles of being equal distances for both, Atlanta for UGA, and J-Ville for the gatourist..GoDAWGS!

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 644 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Can someone please enlighten me on why jax can’t be a “home” game every other year and have the ability to host recruits? And why can’t the rules be changed to allow it?

  • rtparkerivrtparkeriv Posts: 103 ✭✭✭ Junior

    For those arguments for an Atlanta - Jacksonville rotation, it would still be a neutral site and recruits could not be hosted.

    Someone else posted that the universities get paid a lot of money to have the game there. The money has always outweighed the recruiting issue that Kirby raises. I love tradition, but for the ongoing success of the program, it makes sense to go home and home. Of course, the gators will benefit as well.

  • HenddawgHenddawg Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Agree 100%. The only people advocating for this to remain in Jacksonville are Florida fans. Location has nothing to do with the national televising of this game. If both teams ****, they won’t be the national game on CBS anyway whether this is in Jacksonville or Las Vegas. Home and home and let Florida decide what their home is.

  • ConcernedConcerned Posts: 14 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Disagree with Coach.

    Stated these things before...

    Top 3 in recruitung for 4 straight years...played for 2 National Championships and twice were a game away from playoff...obviously, the game does not hurt recruiting...Being the SEC game that has been televised the most by CBS, it can be argued that national exposure helps us recruit better Nationally and in Florida...far more concerned about NIL than location of game.

    If coach wants to move game, then Georgia should NEVER play another neutral site game. It is extremely hipocritcal to think recruiting is that important and continue to play Clemson and Oregon in Charlotte and Atlanta? Much rather continue Florida in Jacksonville than these 2 games.

    We need to quit playing Tech every year home and home. If you attending last year's game, it was at least 90% Georgia. Rotate Tech, GA. State, and GA. Southern every year in Athens and in September. Georgia's loyalty should be to the SEC and not a school that chose to leave it.

  • ConcernedConcerned Posts: 14 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Also, since that are basically few recruiting rules anymore, just change the rule about bringing recruits to neutral games.

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  • GaBoi69GaBoi69 Posts: 373 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I agree with Coach Smart. What is Georgia and the program is getting out of this deal. I understand Georgia fans want to go party in Jacksonville and keep up and old tradition, but Coach Smart is looking out for the program long term. If it is about a neutral site and 50/50 splint for tickets allotment, then it shouldn't be a problem playing the game in Atlanta. If Auburn and Alabama can change the Iron Bowl to a home to home game and it still get the hype. Georgia and Florida can do the same. Georgia fans needs to get on board and see there is no real benefits for Georgia besides fans having a venue to get drunk.

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