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Georgia stock report: SEC title cause for celebration, Ohio State pairing cause for concern

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  • 99nout99nout Posts: 256 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited December 2022

    I complete agree with you and I was thinking that about all of our backfield during the game. They're playing soft coverage in hopes of getting a pick but that just leads to them getting burned. I think when Kirby nips that **** in the bud we'll have much tighter coverage.

  • 99nout99nout Posts: 256 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    I completely agree with you and was thinking that the whole game - They're playing soft coverage in hopes of getting an interception but it just results in them getting burned over and over.

    KS and team will nip that in the bud and get it corrected by NYE.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If you go back and watch the vast majority of the sloppy plays and getting burned in the secondary happened After the Dawgs had got the score up. Not to say that didn’t happen some before as yes it did. But the worse damage occurred after the Dawgs got the score up. Why ?? I think that it was a two fold thing. 1) The DBs wanted to show boat in the SECCG by Trying and Missing to get INTs instead of batting the ball down. Yeah when it’s a Sure INT go for it !! But Only when it’s for Sure OR the whole game is resting on getting a turn over, like little time left on the clock and the rival has the ball. 2) The DBs GROSSLY underestimated the skill of the backup QB. Coming in I did to !! I figured they’d feast on him. My bad !! The DBs bad !! But and in closing if there’s Any CFB Coaches I’d want repairing these issues it’d be the combo of Kirby Smart and Will Muschamp and their indoctrinated assistants. I’m Confident they will fix these issues. You’ll see a Far Better Defense vs Ocryo St. than you did with LSwho. Watch and Enjoy !! Go Dawgs !!

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @GoodOlDawg

    Kendall Milton vs Elijah Holyfield makes no sense. Elijah Holyfield was a 5'10" 210 lb RB who ran a 4.8 40. He wasn't going to get drafted no matter how long he stayed in school. Also, the only reason why Holyfield was even able to sign a UDFA deal was his rushing for 1000 yards. Had he stayed his senior year, his stats would have gone down, making getting even a good UDFA deal like the one he signed with Carolina unlikely.

    As for Milton, no RB has rushed for 1000 yards for UGA since Todd Monken took over. Everything that Smart and Monken has indicated is that UGA has ditched the "feature back" thing and is instead making them interchangeable role players. So, no UGA RB is going to get drafted in the first 2 rounds, and they may not get drafted in the first 3. (Cook went in the last pick of the 2nd round last year because he was a 5 star brother of a guy who would be a Hall of Famer if he could stay healthy.) That means that it is in their best interests to jump to the NFL as soon as possible so they can be coached up as well-rounded RBs instead of just spot players in order to get their second contract. Why? Because NFL RBs are basically done by 28-30. So if you use up all of your eligibility and aren't a 1st round pick, you may not get another shot at a big deal. Zamir White, as a 4th round pick, is getting $1.1 million a year with a $750,000 signing bonus on a contract that will end when he is 27, meaning he will only get 1 more deal. Milton is 20, meaning that he can potentially squeeze 3 contracts out of his NFL career by leaving early.

    RBs can't get into the first round by rushing for 500-800 yards. UGA's current offense doesn't allow them to get the # of carries or put up the stats needed to get drafted high. NFL scouts and GMs don't care how many national titles players win, unless it is about taking fliers on guys in the 7th round because they got good coaching. So yes, this is going to impact whether UGA RBs leave for the NFL as soon as they are eligible, and also whether blue chip RBs choose UGA in the first place.

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @UGADad20

    I think you're Justin Fields-SB comparison needs more context, Fields had a little advantage throwing to 3 future 1st round NFL wide receivers and to a future NFL 3rd round TE and RB. Quite the offensive assortment on the field at the same time. No doubt BB and Washington will be top round TE's and KM will be a top 3 round pick too. SB just doesn't have the quality WR's Fields had. I like LM and AD but they aren't looking like 1st rounders. So, 3 - 1st round WR's for Fields to none for SB. Let SB throw in that system to those receivers and who knows.

  • DawgOnTheBeachDawgOnTheBeach Posts: 59 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Why would I expect that you would give Stetson the credit he deserves since you never have in the past!!! Had your Bro JT had the same night you would have created a separate category at the Diety level.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Wow !! You just Totally disrespected James Cook’s work at UGA !! The ONLY reason he went 2nd round was his brother will be a future HOFer ??!!?? Big LOL !!! So you honestly think that a Pro team would fork out the necessary $$$ Only because of his Brother’s fame ?? NO WAY !!! James Cook was to the UGA Offense what KMac has been this year. That is a RB that can both Catch the ball and Run the ball. Like Numerous Pro Teams do now in the modern era. I haven’t looked it up but by all Appearances KMac just Might be doing Better than James in that dual role which is saying Allot. And if RBs think that They To will get opportunities to play a dual role like that at UGA they Will Come !! I’d of thought You being the stat master and all would have noticed the trend in Both College Football and the Pros, of just Pure run the ball Only RBs are very rapidly dying out. Now Coaches in Both College and the Pros Expect then Demand with sufficient practice/time that RBs be able to Both catch and run the ball !! On a side note this is my own personal belief and opinion on this, but I believe we’re gonna start seeing TEs, in particular “select” TEs with the right body build RUN the ball much more than as compared to the past. Not exclusively but More than in the past. I’m not gonna get involved in the Holyfield, Milton, debate. But as long as Kirby Smart is at UGA and more Especially if Coach Monken stays at UGA you Will See high caliber RBs come to UGA. Not necessarily the #1 RB Recruit though that’s certainly a possibility year to year, but Kirby and the Dawgs will have been a By Committee RB room and thus far that hasn’t hurt recruiting much if any at all. One of the reasons just Might be because RBs know that Hey if I go to UGA I’ll have to opportunity to Catch the ball nearly as much as Run it and I know Now that’s what the Pros are looking for.

  • khummelkhummel Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Not surprisingly but disappointingly (due to his natural talent), Kelee Ringo's not on the good stock list. I think he should stay another year to become a leader of the 2023 D while honing his skills (and stats) to improve his stock and draft result. Go Dawgs!

  • robinsdawgrobinsdawg Posts: 127 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I think our secondary approached the LSU passing game more like Ms St and KY than Tenn, especially after we got the big lead. Except Boutte, lsu doesn’t have the big time receiver name and they picked us apart by committee. Tenn, on the other hand, has the two studs, and we knew it. Our corners (mostly) blanketed them giving our line opportunity for coverage sacks. OSU will throw two studs at us (if Njigba plays) along with an accurate, athletic QB. I think when Ringo and Lassiter know they’ll be on an island, they step up with good coverage and sure tackling. To me, OSU and tenn have nearly identical offenses but with different play speed.

  • Eric_CEric_C Posts: 104 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited December 2022

    Ha, yeah I'd say Stetson was efficient. As someone who scrutinized every play of that game, let me say Bennett made plays all day...he threw in to very tight windows while being blitzed...made great decisions...and showed his usual swagger when it looked like LSU and the Dawgs secondary was about to give us all some serious heartburn. It's unfortunate he won't get much love in the draft. Ever since he came in and saved the Dawgs in Fayetteville, AR in 2020, I've been a believer.

    Also, let's remember the Dawgs tired D was smoked by the Bama passing game in the last SECCG, but they absolutely shut things down in the CFP. While the OSU offense will be more formidable than UM and Bama (without their top receivers), I've been thinking more and more that the physicality of the UGA "offense" is what teams fear the most when planning. The Dawgs are going to give up some points to OSU, but I expect McIntosh, Milton, and even Bowers to all be touchdowns waiting to happen in the run game, and I am sure the Dawgs passing game will be more dynamic than Michigan's. Let's all hope McConkey and the OL benefit from the break.

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  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,546 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I’d be totally good with that !! Kelee has been inconsistent. Can’t help but see it. But he’s also made some great plays to. The good thing speaking of Kelee is the ground work for him to be Great is there. He has the athletics and body frame to do it. I think Allot of Dawgs fans in the many comments nailed it on him and Starks poor game in the SECCG. They were going over kill for an INT, and got burned in the process. I’m pretty confident that Kirby, Muschamp, and staff will work that out of them between now and Ohio St. But it Does need to get fixed. In just Saying it here it is: FORGET about those cameras and that your on Ntl. TV and Do Your Job how you’ve been Coached to do it !! If they respond to that criticism, watch the tape, listen to the coaches, I think we will see a Much Improved level of play. I’d tell them Not getting an INT is better than being totally Embarrassed on National TV !! Do your job as coached to do and the INTs will come to you !!

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  • GoodOlDawgGoodOlDawg Posts: 506 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2022

    I believe that being an exceptional receiver out of the backfield is what adds value to the draft status of an otherwise excellent running back. That is why James Cook, who is even smaller than Holyfield, was drafted so highly and gets the amount of playing time that he does now in the NFL. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with his brother, nor do the Bills know or care how many stars he had in high school. Milton needs to establish himself as a very good receiver out of the backfield to maximize his draft status. If he feels as if he has done that, then he's ready to go. It's his decision to make, as I stated in my original comment, but it needs to be based on good information.

    GO DAWGS!

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,360 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited December 2022

    Ringo should definitely be in the Stock Even (Down) category. Blame it on technique, desire, positioning, lack of attention to detail, not wanting to get hurt, or just plain getting beat. But whatever it was, he did an extraordinarily poor job on Saturday. Yes, I'm sure he knows this and the coaches know it, but I want folks to keep saying it so that HE comes out motivated with something to prove against OSU, because we KNOW they're going to be motivated. Also, while I won't go as far as @UGA66 in saying the lead photo was in poor taste, I will say that it seems an odd selection. Why not use the one of Jalen Carter hoisting Jayden Daniels into the air with one arm? Or perhaps one of Christopher Smith running back the blocked FG attempt? Both of those guys were included in your Stock Up category and certainly would have been a more representative photo, in my opinion. Nonetheless, Go Dawgs!

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