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NFL Draft 2023: Live updates, picks, analysis for Georgia football players

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  • PetesdawgsPetesdawgs Posts: 414 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Are the same marketing people who work for Anheuser Busch, now working for the Falcons? The lowly Falcons pick a running back who is mediocre at best, while a hero Bulldog goes to Philly. Carter would have excited many Georgia fans and maybe some of them would have gone to a Falcons game. I am done with Woke Arthur Blank and ask him to sell the team to an owner who knows how to win. Man how many Georgia players are on Philly now--Maybe 5 or 6?

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,741 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Bryce Young was the most instinctive QB between he and Stroud by far. HIs ablility to make plays out of nothing by extending plays with his feet was second to none. Stroud had the benefit of playing in an offensive juggernaut but still couldn't beat Michigan, how many 1st round WR's did he have to throw to? Smith-Njigba, 1st rounder and then the guy we knocked out of the game will be a 1st rounder next year. It's a good thing that the back-ups for Metchie and Wiliams couldn't catch down the stretch of the NC game when Young was hitting them in the chest with passes.

    THe knock on Young that I brought up on here and they kept discussing last night isn't his height, it's his smallish frame. Everytime he gets sacked, the coaches, the team and their fans will be holding their breath and watching with one eye closed and the other one only half open. Tua is stout by comparison to Bryce and we've seen him get brutalized.

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2023

    Exactly..1 name pops up immediately..Brett Favre. I doubt he would've had the career in Atlanta that he did in Green Bay though, there was MUCH better talent at GB than Atlanta then. And those were also Favre's wilder days of drinking, and partying, and Atlanta wanted no part of that, so he was traded (as if other players don't do the same things Favre did). Still, just another, in a long line of great players traded away, for who? Falcons get great players, but fail at developing those players, or trade them. This has gone on for years with the Falcons, and until they are serious about winning, the trend will continue.

  • Bdw3184Bdw3184 Posts: 13,130 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Lol...you reminded me of something Deion Sanders said in response to 'why he wanted to be traded'...when Atlanta traded him to the 49'ers. He said, "Atlanta isn't serious about winning and their management is a mess."....or something to that effect. It wasn't too long after that, that the Smith's sold the team to Blank, amid massive fanfare. Hell...the whole State of Georgia cheered. Lol

    I think the Smith Family SOLD...'cause they were having a hard time finding enough Fans to fill out their roster. Lmao

    The best passing QB I've seen in ATL since 1965, is hands-down....Steve Bartkowski. He was a hard drinker and partier, when they first signed him. And, initially, there were doubts. But, he could sling the ball like "nobody's business"...so, they stuck with him through the growing pains. He found God in his second year...and put down the bottle, which launched him into the stratosphere, cause the team around him, bought-in. He became a Leader.

    They had a helluva defense at the time, that kept them close in most of their games, so they could afford to "s.u.c.k it up" on the offense and give Bart time to develop.

    Yeahhh...hindsight being 20/20...they should've probably kept Farve. But, I don't think he would've been anywhere near as successful, playing for the "Lame Birds". Maybe, if he had come along 5 or 10 yrs later...who knows?.

    There's a prime example of the value of the QB position...a QB is only as successful as the team around him. Getting a "New All-Everything quarterback"...fixes nothing, when your coaches and the rest of your team is incompetent. That's actually one of the last pieces of the puzzle to fall in place, in a successful football program.

    First you build the team and identity....THEN, you worry about the QB. And, that's what Arthur Smith has been doing, IMO. I'll be interested to see who they take in rounds 2 thru 7. That'll give us a better idea of direction. I think they're going to go big on the offensive side of the ball...and, maybe add one or two pieces to their defensive backfield.

    There was a lot done, through free agency, this year. I'm lookin' for the Falcons to make a run, this year. But, they need a good backup QB....and, **** the "has-been's". Lol

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2023

    Young had Metchie and Williamson his 1st year, and a better OL than Stroud. Take away his top receivers and replace them with Jermaine Burton and inexperienced WR's and Young struggled, so he had to make plays out of nothing. That won't happen in the nfl. Overall, NFL defenses are a lot bigger, and faster, at almost every position. Unlike college where 5 or 6 may be NFL caliber on a team, ALL he will face now is the best of the best from colleges. I agree, Tua is a lot bigger than Bryce, and we've seen what's happened to him. If Young takes those kind of hits, it won't end up in his favor.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @1SICemDAWGS1

    Bryce Young was sacked 39 times in 2021. No idea why you have a high regard for that OL. Also, in 2023 Young had 3300 yards in 12 games. Oh yeah, his completion % was 67% in 2021 and dropped to 64.5% in 2022. His rating went from 167.5 to 163. His yards per attempt: 8.9 to 8.8 (10 to 9.9 adjusted).

    Yards per game? Yes, it did drop by 50 from 2022 to 2021, the only area where there was a real dropoff. But still: he had 277 yards per game. Stetson Bennett IV? 275 yards per game in 2022! And SB IV had Brock Bowers and Darnell Washington to get the ball to (not to mention Ladd McConkey). As well as a MUCH BETTER offensive line. Even the RB situation was better in Athens. Where UGA was at least 4 deep at RB, with Alabama there was a massive dropoff after Gibbs, and only 2 viable RBs on the whole roster. Another thing: 32 TDs (in 12 games) for Young versus 27 TDs (in 15) for Bennett. Where Young had 28 TDs during the regular season, SB IV had 16 (as he threw for 11 in the SEC title game and in the playoff).

    So the claim that Young "struggled" in 2022 doesn't hold up when you compare his numbers against the guy who finished #4 in Heisman voting. And it is a key reason why Young was drafted over Stroud, who also had a much better supporting cast. As highly as I think of Stroud, it is difficult to imagine Young basically getting shut out for most of the second half. Even after Harrison Jr. was knocked out of the game, Stroud still had Egbuka and Fleming. Young didn't have anyone anywhere near that good in the title game after Metchie went down, and his OL wasn't nearly as good as Ohio State's either.

    Were Young 6'1" instead of 5'10", Stroud would never have been considered in Young's class.

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2023

    Honestly, I could care less who Young or Stroud plays for, I won't be watching, I'm nott a pro football fan at all. The NFL=no fun leauge. However Young does play the most protected position on the field, so he may have a decent NFL career, only time will tell. You so much as sneeze on a NFL QB now and it's a 15 yard penalty. I doubt any QB today would have lasted when defenses were actually allowed to hit the QB. Mean Joe Green, Mike Singletary, Too Tall Jones, Ronnie Lott and others would have had a field day with Young if he had played back when it was a real man's game.

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Just turned on the draft out of boredom..at pick 60 and Washington and Ringo are both still available. Even Tyrique Stevenson was selected before Ringo.

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 566 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Ringo isn’t a surprise but the Big 0 is creating huge value for whom ever drafts him. Should have been pick early 2nd.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    A lot of what you say, is true. IMO...the quarterback position is going "the way of the Running Back position".

    As long as "College Teams" and "The NFL" are barreling down the road of "The Running Quarterback"....that position will be extremely vulnerable. Teams will soon have to carry 2 "Starting Quarterbacks", if they intend on going to the playoffs. Same as they do, at RB.

    A running QB's longevity is cut in half automatically, cause he will be carrying the rock, just like a running back. I just don't think that's a good strategy or business model.....or, sustainable.

    QBs are not physically developed, in the same way other positions on the team, are developed....including RBs. There ARE exceptions, like Cam Newton and Steve McNabb. Where are they playing, again? How many Super Bowls?

    Lol...meanwhile two of the best pocket passers in the game, Manning and Brady, played "Winning Football" well into their 30's and 40's. The pendulum of the "Football Gods" WILL swing back to the "pocket passer"...more likely sooner, than later....IMO.

  • BigDawg61BigDawg61 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2023

    Dude...how do you leave Bill Stanfill or Dick Butkus....or Claude Humphrey, out of that post. Lol...if those guys got a shot at some of these powder puffs in the backfield today, and they'd kill em. I think Jim Brown is the only one that escaped the pre-70's NFL unharmed.

  • My_Dawg_RyanMy_Dawg_Ryan Posts: 390 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Looking like Washington should have stayed in school!

  • 1SICemDAWGS11SICemDAWGS1 Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 2023

    I only named a few lol I could have gone on and on lol Jack Ham, Mel Blount, Claude Humphrey, Thomas Davis.. get the picture? Lol

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 3,112 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    OK I’m a Dawgs homer right down to the dawg gone bone. I don’t watch the NFL. And I’m sure not a football expert, but some ( Allot) of the picks these picks being made by these NFL folks are to me absolutely crazy !!

    I don’t get them at all. NOT just because I’m a Dawgs fan but the smartest picks I’ve seen so far is by the Philly Eagles. Players have to gell together and be on the same page whether it’s college or the pros. Philly picking guys that have played together is a smart move in my opinion.

    The Falcons have a TON of talent in their own back yard and seem totally blind to it !! And that’s Why they will remain the Losers that they are !! Actually it would be punishment to see one of our Dawgs go to that career ending joint !! Go Dawgs !!

    P.S. Which ever team gets Stetson will have a Diamond in the rough !! If they will be willing to put some work and Patience into him, he Will pay off, especially in the long term.

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