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WATCH: Dan Lanning channels inner-Kirby Smart after Colorado trash talk

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edited September 2023 in Article commenting
imageWATCH: Dan Lanning channels inner-Kirby Smart after Colorado trash talk

ATHENS — Oregon coach Dan Lanning spent four seasons learning under Kirby Smart and helping to build arguably the most dominant defense of the post-BCS era.

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Proud of Lanning ! I wish his success except when he's playing us in the NC.

    I love that his players didn't respond to all the trash talking! That's how you do it! On the field, with your pads!

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited September 2023

    Lanning did not pull any punches. Something you rarely see in CFB these days. He is building OR in the image of UGA. Talking on the field w/your pads/helmets. Old school. Love it!

    After all the pregame talk (by both coaches) , Deion's team was dominated. Deion took the high road in postgame comments (what else could he do?). But you could see he was seething behind the shades. He wants Lanning again.

    CO is the media darlings because of flamboyant Deion and how many clicks he generated for those that write about him. The media set CO up for this thrashing by canonizing Deion and CO WAY before their time. But that's what the media does. They build something up they like and tear down what they don't like.

    Telling the whole team to transfer, bringing in a whole new team via TP, telling everyone day 1 that his son is the QB (w/o open competition), running his mouth about everything (that his team emulates during games), creating a mercenary culture in CFB, using NIL to essentially turn CO into his own private pro team....all that is everything that is wrong with CFB. CFB is not pro football. If I wanted to watch pro football I would watch the NFL.

    Compare that culture to what CKS has built at UGA. Polar opposites. It will be interesting to watch which method prevails.

    I give Deion 2 to 3 years in CO before he moves on to FL St, the SEC or the Dallas Cowboys as HC.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited September 2023

    Lanning, 37, has quickly become one of the hottest young head coaching commodities in the nation since leaving the Georgia program.

    Kind of easy to do when your only two major jobs are defensive coordinator (for a defensive head coach) at a loaded national title contender followed by taking over the best funded (Phil Knight Nike money) program with the best facilities (see Knight Nike again) and as a result the most consistent winner in a weak conference.

    UGA: 54 current NFL players

    Oregon: 32 current NFL players

    Colorado: 10 current NFL players and only 3 of them start (2 CBs and a LT)

    Yes, if @MikeGriffith is going to keep up the Lanning versus Sanders comparisons on here, I am going to continue the contrast between your current and previous jobs being Oregon and UGA on one hand and their being Jackson State and a Colorado program that is in such bad shape that they didn't even have the money to pay him the contract that they signed him to on the other: https://www.si.com/college/2022/12/05/colorado-ad-deion-sanders-contract-money and only after hiring the guy Colorado was easily able to raise enough money to pay it off. (Fundraising has been a real problem at Colorado for decades.) https://frontofficesports.com/deion-sanders-has-boosted-colorados-fortunes-can-he-live-up-to-the-hype/ When Sanders inevitably leaves - it will happen right after he finishes turning his son into an NFL draft pick - Colorado is going to fall right back on the trash heap. Yes, the Big 12 should have chosen better.

    @MikeGriffith in his previous "comparison" ripped Sanders for bringing in 50 transfers and running off the rest of the team. The reason: the kids that Sanders ran off weren't P5 caliber football players in the first place. When Sanders put them on the market, programs didn't exactly line up to recruit them out of the portal the way they do former UGA players. By contrast, Lanning has been as active in the portal as anyone despite having a 10 win team when he got there. (No, @MikeGriffith in his previous column claiming that Lanning built his program the right way by recruiting and player development didn't mention that like 1/3 of Oregon's starting lineup is mercenaries from the transfer portal. He only mentions Box Nix, the overrated son of another overrated Auburn QB Patrick Nix who for some reason we are supposed to root for more than the Colorado transfers. Are UGA fans supposed to root for all Auburn products, or just Nix?)

    This stuff is unreal. But please. If it is absolutely necessary to root for Nike University - excuse me, Oregon - on a site dedicated to UGA sports, please quit the comparisons between guys who were handed two top jobs in their 30s and guys who actually have tough rebuilding jobs on their hands.

  • thadecthadec Posts: 611 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    @reddawg1

    Nike University (Oregon) didn't do trash-talking before this particular game, true, but they have a reputation as being one of the most insufferable and obnoxious programs ever since Phil Knight started pouring money into the program and decking them out with gaudy facilities and outrageous uniforms. https://www.oregonlive.com/ducks/2017/04/25_times_oregon_ducks_uniforms.html

    Yes, that attracts a certain type of player and it ain't business school guys. (Or at least business schools in the 1970s and 80s instead of the ESG advocates they are cranking out these days). Granted, it was at its worst during the Chip Kelly era back when the Oregon-Stanford rivalry was ALMOST the ultimate contrast in programs, though not quite so much as the infamous "Catholics vs Criminals" Notre Dame-Miami rivalry in the 1980s. But a lot of people do still remember the peak "Nike U swagger" days as it wasn't that long ago. If Dan Lanning can change that culture and image it will be a good thing. But Oregon leaving the west coast and Pac-12 for the more conservative buttoned-down Big 10 meant that it was going to have to happen anyway. That "Hollywood" thing that USC and UCLA like to put on (when they're good anyway) is going to have to be toned down too.

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 630 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    How can you not like Dan Lanning?

    He found a way to motivate his players with an authentic message by tapping into their natural resentment about Colorado hype. All coaches try to do that, but sometimes it comes across as made-up indignation. It works better when it's real. And he perfectly leveraged the real feelings his players already had.

    The other smart thing: He said it in the locker room right before the game -- not in a press conference early in the week to give Colorado their own axe-to-grind. Then, he let his players do the talking on the field. In the process, he established a new standard for Oregon to play to --- and man did they look good on Saturday!

    Lanning's got the gray matter.

    Meanwhile, Colorado players did the opposite: They walked right into the narrative he was setting by treading on the big "O" and trash talking before kickoff.

    In Sanders' defense, he responded with integrity. Didn't wine about Oregon running up the score or about Lanning motivating his guys the way he did. Good for him. Of course, he was doing exactly the same thing when he used the CSU coach's words to motivate his own guys. Thing is: No amount of motivating could have grown him an OL or a DL to compete with a big-time program like Oregon.

  • HenddawgHenddawg Posts: 715 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    First of all, Skip Bayless has been and remains a tool so who cares what he thinks. How can anyone be critical of Lanning’s pregame speech with all the garbage being spewed by Colorado and the adoring press around them. No matter what and how much time, they will always be more style than substance and may win the PR battles but lose the games and championship. The Sanders kid talking that garbage before the game and then straight up gets owned during the game. That should humble them some but we all know better than that.

  • UGADad20UGADad20 Posts: 1,660 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @thadec. I disagree. Lanning has been a a HC for 1 season and 4 games. Based on those locker room videos he is already building a solid foundation, a la UGA, on which to build a a true CFB powerhouse. What he said to his team was in the locker room. Not running his mouth in the media doing his usual grand standing like the other coach has always done. Whose team was better prepared?

    Lanning has used the TP judiciously picking the right individuals to build the culture he wants while STILL recruiting 2 Top 10 classes to develop. Deion has used the TP indiscriminately to increase his talent level w/o regard to team culture. A process he will have to repeat every year as he builds each team of mercenaries from scratch.

    We saw how recruiting talent w/o regard to character worked out for Dan Mullen at FU. Mullen was so desperate to try and back up the checks his big mouth had written that he took anybody. And it cost him his job at FU.

    None of Deion's teams have had any team culture except mercenary. That's the difference between the coaches and the programs that you failed to see or conveniently overlooked because it didn't fit your narrative.

    Lanning is 37. Think about that. Leading a top CFB program at 37. Deion is recruiting on his HOF name. He isn't outworking Lanning on the recruiting trail. Deion is sitting back letting his name open doors for him while he peruses the TP looking for his next sales pitch target.

    Deion will never catch Lanning on the CFB field. Lanning has a system and will work tirelessly. Deion has a name and will sit back and collect what that brings him. CFB coaches work extremely hard to be successful. Deion has a HUGE advantage recruiting because of his name and race. I still don't see Deion sustaining the necessary work to maintain a top level CFB program. He is already a figurehead like 71 yo Nick Saban . Brought in as the recruiting closer. CO is a stepping stone job for Deion. What kind of culture can he build and sustain if everyone knows he won't be there more than a few years?

    You said it yourself. "when Sanders inevitably leaves" and " fall right back on the trash heap".

  • NorthHallDawgNorthHallDawg Posts: 74 ✭✭✭ Junior

    That Circus act in Colorado is better suited to the WWE than College Football. If you talk s**t you better be able to back it up and clearly Colorado cannot back it up against quality teams. The key word is "team" and Colorado is a team in name only. Colorado is a patchwork of mercenaries who crave attention whether it be bad or good. Have you ever heard Saban or Kirby talk s**t before a game? No. Rather, like Lanning said "don't say s**t to them..." and as Kirby said "just smile and point to the scoreboard..." Colorado better be happy with the three wins they have because USC, UCLA, Utah, Washington State, Oregon State and Arizona are going to do what Oregon did and the other jobber teams they play just might beat them as well. Deion claims to be a Christian and only him and God know if he really is: however, if he is a true Christian he would do well to remember God's word: “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble...”

  • Silver_BritchesSilver_Britches Posts: 1,229 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Colorado got Ducked up! 😊 Ol' Prime Rib better teach his players some manners. Those big mouths of theirs ain't doing anything but making them look ****, and firing up the other team, of course! Glad the Ducks stomped them!

    GO DAWGS!

  • wpony714wpony714 Posts: 354 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Oregon is truly an obnoxious and insufferable program although it was their rivalry with USC which was the polar opposite. The 2 fan bases despise each other almost like no other.

    When it was under the table, Knight paid a LOT of money for key recruits, particularly in the SoCal region. And the reputation for money-chasing definitely followed. Lots of pot, lots of driving issues, arrests, etc.

    USC fans wanted to pressure the Big10 NOT to take Oregon and threaten to pull out of the move if Oregon came along. The ducks don't fit the Big10 profile an any way and in particular, academically. I'll say that as long as Riley is the HC, he will continue to play up the Hollywood angle and he won't care what the Big10 thinks. ucla never did that. They are a basketball and Olympic sport school.

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,258 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @MikeGriffith why do YOU care about this so much? Three days later and you're still writing about this one PAC-12 game as if it was the game of the century, or even the year. Oregon won big. Colorado lost big. But you've turned that one game into some sort of referendum on the future of college football. Neither of those teams is on the UGA schedule this season. Yes, Lanning used to coach at UGA. So did a lot of people. There's no need to follow his career game-by-game or what he does or says. You want to criticize others in the media (and YOU ARE a member of the media) for giving so much attention to Sanders, yet here you are, a University of Georgia beat writer, once again writing about a game that Sanders not only LOST, but also has no bearing on UGA's upcoming schedule! Are you going to do follow-up stories on every Oregon game this season? Or Colorado's? You obviously don't like Deion Sanders. You think he's bad for college football. I get it. I'm not a big fan, either. But many people disagree. Many people, of all races, like him and love what he's doing at Colorado. If nothing else, Colorado football is relevant again. Good for them and their fans. But Sanders does what he does, Oregon does what it does and UGA does what it does. Let's follow UGA football here and if and when we should play either Colorado or Oregon, then maybe we can revisit the future of college football. Go Dawgs!

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,555 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    UGA vs Oregon for the Natty could happen.

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