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Former Alabama RB Mark Ingram on Kirby Smart shove: ‘I would’ve tried to beat Kirby’s a**’

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edited October 16 in Article commenting
imageFormer Alabama RB Mark Ingram on Kirby Smart shove: ‘I would’ve tried to beat Kirby’s a**’

In the days since Georgia head coach Kirby Smart shoved Mississippi State quarterback Michael Van Buren, it’s become obvious that Smart is incredibly lucky the situation was not worse.

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Wouldn't want to cut Ingram off in traffic, might not make it home!

  • Bulldawg90Bulldawg90 Posts: 549 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    if you bumped into Mark Ingram on Aisle 15 at my Publix you would be in front of the ice cream. Being between him and a freezer full of ice cream is more dangerous than bumping into him. He’s going to run right through you.

  • benzonebenzone Posts: 27 ✭ Freshman

    No, @87dawg the Mississippi State player chose to take the high road but he was in no way obligated to. Had he taken exception to the shove and responded in kind, he would have been well within his rights and would have suffered no consequences. Instead, all of the consequences would have been had by Kirby Smart, and by any UGA player who took exception to Smart being shoved back and reacted. Shoving Smart back would have been canny gamesmanship. It would have resulted in a 15 yard penalty, a possible momentum shifter and a meltdown on the UGA sideline including possible ejections of UGA players. It is exactly the sort of thing that Bart Starr or Joe Namath would have pulled back in the day, though probably not the US Naval Academy graduate Roger Staubach.

    Let me make this clear: while a coach is allowed a degree of physical contact with his own players, he has absolutely no right to put his hands on an opposing player. None. Zero. Zip. Kirby was 100% in the wrong here and completely indefensible. Kirby was EXTREMELY LUCKY that Van Buren didn't take exception or even just react in the heat of the moment. Van Buren wouldn't have had to knock Smart down, kick him in the gut a couple of times and then jump on top of him and pound him. All he would have had to do was to push Kirby back, or even scream at him verbally, and this entire thing plays out differently. Even pointing out in the postgame press conference how Kirby refused to apologize makes it a huge mess.

    Kirby Smart is a 48 year old man making $13 million a year. He is the face of the University of Georgia, even more so than the president, and is Georgia's highest paid public employee, making more in a year than the governor gets for an 8 year term. He should not put himself into situations where he has to rely on a 20 year old from another team that he has just assaulted deciding to turn the other cheek when that 20 year old gains absolutely nothing by refusing to make it an issue but could have gotten a lot of mileage out of making it one. If you don't realize this, then you need to take a step back and ask yourself what is the color of the sky in your world.

  • benzonebenzone Posts: 27 ✭ Freshman

    No, @osmosiphobe it isn't that simple. Not only did Van Buren have every right to push Kirby back, doing so would have gotten Mississippi State an extra 15 yards at minimum. It is amazing how so many people are choosing to forget that a coach has absolutely zero rights to put his hands on another team's player, meaning that if a player chooses to take exception to having been assaulted by retaliating proportionally, it is well within that player's rights. And before anyone plays the "respect", "class" or "character" cards … point those in Kirby's direction and leave them there.

  • NorthHallDawgNorthHallDawg Posts: 104 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Mark Ingram can talk s**t, eh? First, I do not believe Kirby meant to shove the MSU player. When you're in a high emotional state like Kirby, tunnel vision and auditory exclusion are a given. Frankly, it was like a perfect storm: Kirby moving to get Schuman's attention, the MSU player trying to get back on the field, and they met in the middle. Now, let's take Mark Ingram's road... The opposing player jumps on Kirby and starts swinging, kicking, biting, you get the picture... Well, there's a reason there are a dozen Georgia State Troopers on the sidelines: to protect Kirby, period. Regardless of who the aggressor is, the State Troopers are going to defend Kirby; that's what they're paid for, which is why they have guns, tasers, and pepper spray. Ingram can talk S**t, but when he has a taser stuck up his A**, he'll be singing a high tenor going forward. Let someone, a player, opposing coach, or drunken buffoon coming from the stands try to make a dedicated attack on Kirby, and you'll see the Georgia State Patrol do what it does best...

  • YankeeDawg64YankeeDawg64 Posts: 27 ✭✭ Sophomore

    Don't get me wrong, I wish it never had occured. MY comment was direct at M.I. It's an attitude we don't need in this country. Heck I've seen people almost come to blows in a store….just b/c "someone disrespected them". The dawgs do NOT need any more negative press in a season of traffic arrest(s), assault and battery and a team that just doesn't seem in rhythm. I'd rather see other teams with neg press. Can we bring back the 'Canes from late 80's and early 90's to divert the focus on Ga.

    Lets face it, this year has been a sad surprise. Outsiders are going to pile on every mistake UGA makes…as coaches and for players. Benzone, I'm not trying to defend CKS, its more the reaction to those who would "beat his ass" - everyone is a rambo these days…..

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