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Georgia football winners and losers after overcoming Texas, officiating

SystemSystem Posts: 11,437 admin
edited October 21 in Article commenting
imageGeorgia football winners and losers after overcoming Texas, officiating

Georgia football beat Texas 30-15 to pick up a huge win.

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  • GtheGreekGtheGreek Posts: 1,225 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    LOSERS…..why totally ignore the genius who thought it was worth the gamble to squib kick the second quarter kick off….in the pantheon of boneheaded plays, this ranks…..and don't give me the BS that Woodring had a bad hit on the ball….he kicks off hundreds if not thousands of times weekly and seasonally.

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    watching the replay, Beck wasn’t that bad. So many drops. Between luckies drop that turned into an interception and an apparent route error by smith( or maybe the DPI rerouted him. Beck should only be responsible for one INT

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 21

    I'd say close to half of those dropped passes were balls that were off-target by Beck. Either behind the receiver or too far in front. And too many balls thrown into tight coverage that could have easily been another interception. But yes, Humphries and Bell dropped passes they should or could have caught. Receivers need to get separation or this passing game will flounder against tougher competition as was the case against Texas. Beck's accuracy is regressing when he should be improving.

    WINNER: PEYTON WOODRING

  • MontanaDawgMontanaDawg Posts: 2,144 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • DAWGHOUNDDAWGHOUND Posts: 36 ✭✭ Sophomore
    edited October 21

    I got a thought on the Targeting issue. Targeting if I understand it correctly is helmet to helmet contact correct? OK here is the scenario the defensive person is leading with his head forward if he is tackling correctly and the person carring the ball is running with his head up UNTIL the last second when he puts his head down before being tackled. So how can the defensive player be charged with targeting when he was the first one involved. Football is a rough sport and these players know that coming into it. They are being payed millions of dollars to play the game and it is a rough way to make a living but they love the sport . To the governing bodies making up the rules it is like the bureaucrats in government who make all these ridiculous rules. The players want to play so stay out of their way and let them. If they don't want to play a Big Boys game there is always flag football. It should be changed from targeting to spearing and that should be an ejection.

  • GoodOlDawgGoodOlDawg Posts: 503 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I don't think it matters where the contact is made on the "targeted player" if the "targeting player" is leading with the crown of the helmet as both of our players were accused of (see the rule below):

    Targeting and Making Forcible Contact With the Crown of the Helmet

    ARTICLE 3.No player shall target and make forcible contact against an opponent with the crown of their helmet. The crown of the helmet is the portion of the helmet above the level of the top of the facemask. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul. (Rule 9-6) (A.R. 9-1-3-I)

    Targeting and Making Forcible Contact to Head or Neck Area of a Defenseless Player

    ARTICLE 4. No player shall target and make forcible contact to the head or neck area of a defenseless opponent (See Note 2 below) with the helmet, forearm, hand, fist, elbow or shoulder. This foul requires that there be at least one indicator of targeting (See Note 1 below). When in question, it is a foul (Rules 2-27-14 and 9-6). (A.R. 9-1-4-I-VI)Note 1: “Targeting” means that a player takes aim at an opponent for purposes of attacking with forcible contact that goes beyond making a legal tackle or a legal block or playing the ball. Some indicators of targeting include but are not limited to:• Launch. A player leaving their feet to attack an opponent by an upward and forward **** of the body to make forcible contact in the head or neck area.• A crouch followed by an upward and forward **** to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area, even though one or both feet are still on the ground.• Leading with helmet, shoulder, forearm, fist, hand or elbow to attack with forcible contact at the head or neck area.• Lowering the head before attacking by initiating forcible contact with the crown of the helmet.

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I agree from a stat line perspective- Beck had 3 INTS. But when they review the film in the QB room, the coach will give Beck higher marks than we as fans give him.

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 640 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    did you see the alligator arms that Lovett developed coming across the middle. Perfect pass by Beck. But Dom heard footsteps and pulled up. The interception on Luckies drop was off, but very catchable. Even the defense got in on the dropped balls- they should have had a couple more INTS.

  • robinsdawgrobinsdawg Posts: 127 ✭✭✭ Junior

    The targeting call on Jackson was textbook as he initiated contact with the crown of his helmet. Doesn't matter what the offensive player does or where the contact occurs. Remember, a few weeks ago a player was called for targeting when he lead with the crown of his helmet into the guys butt. The call on Aguero shouldn't have been made. The reviews on TV never showed an angle from his left side, and i wonder if the review officials never saw that angle either. But, i saw a shot on another DN article that clearly shows him turn his head to the side as he makes the hit. Maybe someone "in the know" could make an appeal to SEC and get that ruling overturned.

    As far as Beck goes, on some of those drops they could have been thrown better, but the receivers still should make the catch, ie two drops on first series. But, there were also a few passes that missed fairly open receivers.

  • CandlerParkCandlerPark Posts: 812 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate


    Thanks for taking the time to look up and post the rules, GoodOlDawg. It makes me think that the problem is the all-or-nothing nature of the punishment.

    I get that they're trying to protect these young men — the defenders as well as the offensive players. Concussions are a very real problem and have left many NFL, college and even high school players with last brain damage.

    IMO, the comparison to "flag football" that some commenters are making is way off-base: Ain't no flag football game where a QB takes a perfectly legal hit like the one Daylen laid on their Evers. When you add the fact that these guys are bigger and stronger than ever and that we know a lot more about the damage of multiple concussions, it makes sense that they're trying to do is weed out one specific behavior that contributes in an outsized way to such injuries. And there needs to be a strong disincentive to change that specific behavior in precisely the best and most aggressive football players.

    But there's targeting and there's TARGETING. The all-caps variety is when helmet to helmet contact threatens both players. Neither Jackson's nor Aguero's penalty fell into the all-caps category. The only player that would have gotten an injury from their targeting was themselves.

    Ejecting players from the game and the first half of the next game in addition to the penalty yards is pretty severe. There ought to be a category that's less extreme — like maybe force the player to sit out the next three defensive possessions, carried over to the next game if necessary. Differentiate the two levels with, say, helmet-to-helmet contact. Or something along those lines.

    Given that the rule is intended to protect the defensive player as much as (maybe even more than) the offensive player, that should be a good enough disincentive for the player who's only putting himself at risk for a head injury.

  • ChawlieDawg88ChawlieDawg88 Posts: 9 ✭ Freshman

    Why is it when a ballcarrier lowers his helmet and leads with the crown, they are not called for targeting?

  • osmosiphobeosmosiphobe Posts: 479 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Sure, that's not how it works as far as what's written down on the stat sheet. Seems like what Brooksie is saying is that if a well-thrown ball bounces off one dude's hands and then lands in someone else's, or if the ball is in the air going toward a dude, but that dude is pulled off of his route and the guy that did the pulling catches the ball instead because he removed the dude from where he would have been, we can't realistically blame the person who threw the ball.

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