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Georgia stock report: Young Bulldogs emerging down the stretch

SystemSystem Posts: 11,381 admin
edited November 4 in Article commenting
imageGeorgia stock report: Young Bulldogs emerging down the stretch

ATHENS — November has arrived in the Georgia locker room, and that means freshmen can no longer play like freshmen.

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  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Gotta love SEC shorts. So well done and clever,each week! Catch the line-about CB, we've got to play who we've got; "the mailman aint walking through that door! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMFzFRVR0yg

  • 99nout99nout Posts: 242 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I think Starks was beat deep b/c he was trying to cover for Jackson and Aguero being out that half. Trying to be in two places at once so to speak and not being able to get to either in reality.

  • kirkhilleskirkhilles Posts: 1,152 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    … and where is the REST of the article that talks about the endless downs??

  • benzonebenzone Posts: 40 ✭✭ Sophomore
    edited November 4

    @MikeGriffith thanks for this. On Carson Beck, it isn't so much that the supporting cast is weaker. Instead, the supporting cast is as good as or better than the 2017-2020 teams at every position but tailback. (Note: UGA lost 2 games in 2017, 3 games in 2018, 2 games in 2019 and 2 games in 2020 against easier schedules). It is that - 2020 excepted - the gameplan better reflected the talent. This season, Carson Beck has 290 attempts through 8 games. In the 2018 season, Jake Fromm had 306 attempts in 14 games. A fluke? Nope. Fromm had 291 attempts in 15 games in 2017. Beck? 417 attempts in 14 games in 2022. The irony: the Mike Bobo hire was criticized because UGA fans thought that he would be too conservative, run the ball too much in order to attain allegedly outdated notions like balance. (Never mind that the 2020 Bama and 2021 UGA title teams were balanced on offense, and the 2023 Michigan title team had 180+ more rushing attempts than passes).

    UGA doesn't have the RB talent that it did early in Smart's tenure but they would still clearly benefit from running the ball more. If Elijah Holyfield could run for 1000 yards at 6.5 yards per carry behind a worse OL in 2018, there is no reason why UGA's top 3 tailbacks have only 812 combined yards through 8 games except a gameplan designed to feature the worst group of passcatchers in the top 25.

  • EastmandawgEastmandawg Posts: 156 ✭✭✭ Junior

    HA!…..too funny.


    Pretty sure @Mike Griffith won’t see it that way though-as he continues with his bashing of Stetson.


    It was out in the open before, now the digs are all veiled ones. Petty I know, but he is who he is…..just pitiful.

    UGA will more than likely never have a QB that will lead the Dawgs to two straight national championships.

  • benzonebenzone Posts: 40 ✭✭ Sophomore
    edited November 4

    @Eastmandawg In 2020 when SB IV didn't have all those future NFL players catching the ball for him, plus the line and defense wasn't as good either, he was much worse than Beck is now. Meaning that if SB IV was UGA's QB right now, he would have had the same loss in Tuscaloosa that he had in 2020, the same rough game against Kentucky that they had in 2020 and loses a turnover filled game against Texas just as SB IV did against 8-4 Florida in 2020. UGA didn't even win the SEC East that year and SB IV got benched. That's how he looked without rookie NFL starters at TE and WR in Bowers and McConkey, another guy getting major playing time in the NFL in TE Darnell Washington, an NFL starter at RB in James Cook plus an OL so talented that several future NFL draft picks were backups.

  • ypcregypcreg Posts: 348 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    We really need to keep Starks back to protect against deep balls. He is not at his best in run support. I think both Jackson and Bolden are better at run support and Starks is better to help cover deep. I think sometimes Starks try to do too much.

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @benzone

    You're comparing apples to oranges. You should be comparing SB in 2021 to CB in 2023. THeir 1st year as starters for the whole year, or close to it. SB in 2022 to CB this year. THe BAMA team in 2021 was much more talented than the BAMA team this year. THe Florida team in 2020 had Trask a senior QB , Kyle Pitts, and another 1st round receiver whose name escapes me. THe Fla team this year isn't even in the same class as that one. That was the game we jumped on them and Rosemary JAck Saint broke his leg on the TD catch and SB played with an injured shoulder, but nice try.

  • DallasDawgDallasDawg Posts: 1,352 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    These assessments are OK, but I don't think Tate Ratledge should get a "Stock Soaring." Kudos to him for fighting to get back this season. He played OK on Saturday, but he didn't do anything special. Perhaps a "Stock Rising" for him would be more appropriate. I do agree, however, about Starks and Aguero. Both have been slight disappointments this year, more along the lines of inconsistency than anything. As for those who say Starks is trying to do too much, we don't need him to do too much. As Kirby would tell him, "just do YOUR job." The people who replaced Jackson and Aguero in the first half played well. It was the experienced, pre-season All-American (Starks) who blew his assignment and gave up a touchdown.

  • benzonebenzone Posts: 40 ✭✭ Sophomore

    @reddawg1

    No, I am not going to compare the 2021 SB IV team that had 26 guys drafted to this current team. You know what? The 2020 team had better WRs and RBs than this team. The 2020 team had three 5 star tailbacks (James Zook, Zamir White, Kendall Milton) plus Kenny McIntosh and Daijun Edwards. This team keeps having to stick Cash Jones and Dillon Bell in the backfield. Put SB IV on this team and he has no chance.

  • lucydoglucydog Posts: 129 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Stetson was surrounded by a bunch of talent, and I, probably like many of you, wondered what in the hell is he doing starting. But if you look back at his whole body of work, he was quite amazing. Stetson was a Baller—he had a little attitude and a little cockiness that ensured a lot of his success. That drop the mic moment when he was heading down the field kind of says it for him. I, like many of you were wondering and fussing over him being the starting QB—but thank the good Lord he decided to come back to UGA!! GO DAWGS

  • reddawg1reddawg1 Posts: 3,839 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @benzone

    No one is going to argue that the two NC teams weren't better than this one. THat's a seperate issue. But you will be preaching to a slim crowd that would not rather have SB playing right now for us than CB. SB was a very mobile QB, who won games with his legs, too. Plus, I would argue that there is/was something in his makeup where he always had to prove himself because no one believed in him but his teamates, especially in the beginning. Who does what he did ? No one else! Ever! In the history of the game that I am aware of walked on, then led his team to back to back championships! You can't make his story up, no one would believe it. THere was a (pardon the pun) dogged determination in the little guy that was rare. Just a pure baller! An over achiever if there ever was one. CB (I believe most would say), has underachieved expectations. I would argree that CB has more arm talent than SB did, but so did a thousand other guys who never won 1 NC, let alone back to back!

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