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Kirby Smart challenges CFP metrics, SEC commissioner weighs-in on schedule strength
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Kirby Smart challenges CFP metrics, SEC commissioner weighs-in on schedule strength
ATHENS — Kirby Smart really doesn’t want to waste his breath — or any energy — discussing or debating the College Football Playoff Rankings.
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oh Mike. Paul just couldn’t get a word in. Or more likely, AGREED with all of your comments, thus debate wasn’t necessary. If it is just an eye test and wins/losses, that’s ok, just set the baseline.
Love that Sankey is getting involved. This was always going to be an interesting experiment but one held out hope that SOS would factor in and remove conference or homer bias. Judging from the past 2 weeks, that has not occurred. Love Kirby's statement about the ranking of the offenses and defenses (which was one of the incoherent arguments made by the Michigan AD pertaining to Texas and why they were so much higher than Georgia in the standings) - how well you look is directly related to who you are playing. Plus, giving ND credit for beating A&M while not penalizing them for losing at HOME to Northern Illinois is ridiculous. The Michigan guy forgave the loss by stating "it was early in the season" as if to discount the impact. Well, I've got news for him - A&M was ND's first game and that was much earlier in the season than their home loss to NI. That would cancel them both out and then you would have to revert back to ND's schedule, which is very weak as it always is.
Sankey needs to take a stronger hand in this debate and try and get some teeth into this assessment. Big 10 is one of the top 2 not because of the quality of the football, but the population of their schools, media centers, and # of alumni. Outside of a few teams, playing away isn't that big of a challenge, particularly when they insist on starting games at 11:00 central. Just not very competitive across the board.
Granted, I'm SEC biased, but the computers and AI have no allegiances and they tell the same story concerning quality of teams and their competition. Go DAWGS!
JOel Platt I believe hisname is accusing Kirby of polliticking on his podcast, says hse's so sick and tired of Kirby doing that. LOL!!!
I think we all agree the CFP is rife with subjectivity and just pure rubbish. It's not something we can control so there's no use fretting about it. CKS knows this. All our Dawgs can do is focus on being ready for UMass. All the rest will take care of itself.
Go Dawgs!
Good grief. In no era of college football has strength of schedule ever mattered more than record.
It didn't in the poll era, where BYU in 1984, Georgia Tech in 1990 and several Notre Dame and USC teams claimed national titles for beating basically nobody.
It didn't in the BCS era where LSU went in 2003 over USC despite playing 2 FCS teams (though it wasn't entirely their fault to be fair … a team cancelled on them at the last minute) and Notre Dame got in over Ohio State in 2012 and got so embarrassed that the bored announcers talked about about the QB's girlfriend instead of the game.
And it didn't in the 4 team playoff era when Cincinnati got in over loaded Ohio State n 2021, TCU over an even more loaded Alabama in 2022 plus Notre Dame (again) in 2018.
The committee isn't going to ignore 100 years of tradition just because CKS decided that recruiting wide receivers who can separate and tight ends who can block weren't that important. Kirby prefers "scrappy try hard go-getters" that remind him of himself over the best athletes possible at certain positions - QB, WR, TE and sometimes safety it seems - and this is the result. Don't expect the rest of the college football world to accommodate him on this.
I feel somehow there should be a weighted blend of BCS era statistics blended with a human committee element. Neither will be perfect, but at least a computer would take some bias out.
You realize Kirby was All-SEC, right? Led in interceptions. Wasn't drafted but did sign as an NFL free agent. I'd say he had a bit more talent than simply being called "scrappy".
As far as SOS, it is specifically mentioned in this forum as that was laid out as criteria for selections and it is being totally ignored.
And sure, we don't recruit the best athletes at UGA. That Bowers kid, McConkey, Fromm and a host of NFL running back, Tight Ends and linemen were just so-so. I have no idea how we have the highest number of NFL draftees over the past several years with only "scrappy" players.
Let the Indiana's. the Penn States, the Ohio State, Notre Dames go to Austin,Athens, Tuscaloosa, BAton Rouge, Ole MIss, and even SC and Tennessee every year and see what their records would look like. LOL!
South Carolina would be a tough row to hoe right now for those teams, top to bottom, you have to bring your A game every week.
Using SOS can only go so far, because of the way schedules are made. Teams shouldn't be penalized for having an easier schedule than another team since they do not control the schedules. In the same regard, there needs to be some additional weight/consideration given to those teams like Georgia who do have a much tougher schedule than most. But what kind of additional weight and how do you apply it fairly?
As was stated correctly by @bensone below, rankings to determine a National Champion have always been more about wins and losses and the eye test than anything else. We're seeing that same way of ranking teams happening now with the CFP Committee. Bottom line: The CFP rankings are mostly a subjective opinion from a select group of people.
And unfortunately since teams all can't play each other then we don't have an answer to this situation that is going to please everybody or even most people. Maybe some kind of computer modeling needs to be done in addition to these "opinions" to help determine fair rankings.
Don't lose focus, win out (GT can surprise UGA if we're not careful!), stay healthy, and then let the rest of the CFB world stress out the next few weeks… gonna be fun to watch :)
The committe chairman is the Michigan AD, enough said.
Keith Jackson on Ga Tech being named co-"national champion" in 1990. "Ga Tech is the worst team playing the easiest schedule I've ever seen in my years of watching college football to have been nominated to be collegiate national champs".