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ESPN tabs Georgia standout as 2025 Heisman Trophy candidate
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ESPN tabs Georgia standout as 2025 Heisman Trophy candidate
ATHENS — Travis Hunter took home the Heisman Trophy for the 2024 season, thanks to his two-way brilliance at Colorado. He beat out Boise State running back Ashton Jeanty, Oregon quarterback Dillon Gabriel and Miami quarterback Cam Ward.
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What is the likelihood Etienne stays for another year?
While I have been a big fan of Nate since watching him in the high school All American game, UGA running backs will always share the load and no back will get the kind of numbers to impress Heisman voters. Besides, I think Nate is like the rest of the Dawgs. A TEAM player and cares more about wins than accolades. Dawgs seem to care about getting the rings more than trophies.
Frazier probably came in knowing he wouldn't be a "feature back" at UGA. I agree that he won't get enough carries to get Heisman consideration. But, NFL teams have to notice that running backs come out of UGA with less wear and tear. Players like James Cook, who shared the load as an understudy at UGA, are now starring in the pros. He absolutely killed it yesterday with 105 yards and two TDs.
Frazier and Etienne both have potential to be Heisman candidates and winners, but not at UGA. That's not a dig on them. It's just the reality of the modern Dawg system.
He has the tools, but needs to avoid fumbling. Texas knew he had issues, because they were snatching at the ball with him the whole game.
You’re absolutely right. The majority of fumbles he has had is as he’s being tackled the defenders clawing at the ball as he’s going down. Not so much having the ball knocked out of his hands as he’s running.
So I’m no physical fitness guru but I think we’ll see him develop more upper body strength in the off season. After all he IS only a freshman, Plenty of room and time for improvement on his upper body strength. Outside of that he has Huge potential to be a really great RB !!
Etienne is monitoring his draft status potential not Heisman potential..IMO. Georgia RBs winning the Heisman are rare…the big one being Hershel Walker. Frazier has no chance if he keeps fumbling. Upper body development should solve that.
There is NO WAY that this good ole boy club would ever in a 100 years allow a UGA RB to take down the Heisman.
Look at what they did to Jeanty, after the season he had!?! They made it “close” to hype up and improve the gambling aspect. They were never going to give it to him and I know it.
This stuff, as much as I like Mark S, is silly and ridiculous.
Besides, Coach Smart always has had a RB by committee, so it will NEVER happen. Frazier would have to rush for 1800+ and 15+ TD’s, and we all know Bobo does not have that type of playcalling ability in him.
Period.
Go Dawgs!
If UGA goes all the way and Etienne has a stellar few games he will be gone!
Haha, yeah right. Even if Frazier does great and even he plays for 2 more years, he still won't have great odds. Just look at Bowers. I'm sure I wasn't the only one disappointed in his draft position and made the claim that "he'll be the greatest TE of all time if he stays healthy" and he was never in the DISCUSSION for a Heisman. Is Frazier going to be better than Chubb who also was NOT in the Discussion for a Heisman?
Since it's not going to be awarded to a defensive player, Georgia will likely not have one for many, many years just due to how the offense is designed.
@rtparkeriv "But, NFL teams have to notice that running backs come out of UGA with less wear and tear. Players like James Cook, who shared the load as an understudy at UGA, are now starring in the pros."
I wish people would stop saying that … it isn't true. James Cook was a second round pick for the Buffalo Bills because his brother Dalvin Cook was a Pro Bowler and he had an incredible combine. Riley Ridley? Same: was a 4th round pick despite having the sorts of stats in 3 seasons (70 catches for 1000 yards) that your typical NFL prospect has in 1 (Marquise Brown, who went #25 overall, had 75 catches for 1300 yards his last season) only because he was the brother of Calvin Ridley.
Please note that the other RBs taken since UGA went to an "RB by committee approach" - teammate Zamir White, Kenny McIntosh, Kendall Milton, Daijun Edwards - weren't drafted nearly has highly (4th, 7th, 7th, undrafted) and aren't "killing it": they are barely playing if it all. RBs and WRs need touches to develop their skills and to impress the pro scouts. Guys who don't get those touches have to compete for limited NFL opportunities with guys from other programs who are just as talented but actually do get the touches that UGA RBs and WRs don't.
It is why UGA has really struggled with landing elite RBs the past few years and elite WRs during Smart's entire tenure. And it is why if UGA is going to continue to win national titles without historically good defenses and college Hall of Fame TEs, it has to change.
And @CWdawg1979 it seems that other programs allow you to get rings AND trophies. Derrick Henry, Bryce Young, DeVonta Smith and Joe Burrow all got both Heismans and titles at Bama and LSU. Go back a bit further and so did Tim Tebow, Mark Ingram and Cam Newton. Plus there are the Doak Walker, Biletnikoff, O'Brien, Maxwell etc. awards for best RB, WR and QB that guys who win national titles but not Heisman get all the time i.e. Mac Jones and Deshaun Watson. Kirby Smart deciding to run a system that starves the stats of his QBs, RBs and WRs is a choice. It has nothing to do with winning titles. If it did then Saban, who not only won the most national titles but did it in the easiest era to do so (Bear Bryant and **** Hayes won more than a few titles without having to play the 2nd or 3rd best team in the country) would have won titles without throwing the ball downfield unless guys were wide open too. Except he didn't do that. He had Greg McElroy throwing it downfield to Julio Jones all the time, and McElroy was nowhere near as good as Beck is.
@benzone "It is why UGA has really struggled with landing elite RBs the past few years and elite WRs during Smart's entire tenure." This seems pretty elite to me:
2017 #6 (Swift)
2018: #1 (Zeus)
2020: #7 (Milton)
2022: #2 (Branson)
2024: #2 (Frazier)
McIntosh, Cook and Roderick Robinson were rated pretty high as well.
@kirkhilles I don't see where it's written that a UGA player can't win the Heisman. Beck was actually favored for the Heisman before the season. Everybody expected him to put up something like the numbers that Cam Ward ended up with this year — perfectly respectable for a Heisman QB in a year when there aren't two non-QBs who have historic seasons.