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I don't know anything specific to Noah, who knows if he's not playing well in practice, etc. BUT we have recruited or brought several capable WRs over the years and watched their performance compared to their prior team drop like a rock. If you're a solid or especially an elite level WR, why in the world would you consider UGA? You wouldn't…and they aren't! We don't throw the ball downfield, our OC is love with bubble screens and quick outs, we have a QB (while performing ok) can't get past his first read and panics at the sight of a pass rush. To make matters worse, we can't even get the ball to a TE! We've become offensively a slightly more dynamic version of Iowa (no that's not dramatic). We aren't dynamic and no matter what Kirby says in public, it's clear he and Bobo do not value dynamic…they value slow, methodical, safe, conservative, predictable offensive play calling. So let's quit the whining about our lack of WR performance. Kirby doesn't really care…he still wants to win games 10-7 and 7-6. Most of our longer pass plays have come from a 5 yard pass to Branch and then him running 50 yards. Noah will be gone next year and I wouldn't be surprised if Taylor is gone too. UGA is a career destroyer for a good WR and that's just the way it is. Our D better get elite again or this team has no other path but underperforming.
Brought in ton of WR's and throw to one or two so they are unhappy. Keep the TE's in to block so they are unhappy. Want to be RBU again but O line is not that strong. Screen plays for ever is not the solution.
I have no idea about Thomas in reality, but "on paper" he was the 40th best WR in the 2022 class. Morrissette was 34th best in that class. Taylor was the 6th best in the 2025 class, Wiley the 17th best in 2025, Roldan the 34th best in 2025. Branch (obviously) was #1 in 2023 class.
It's not like Smart isn't playing Branch. I root for Thomas as I do for all of the WRs, but if he isn't the best then why is the media calling for him to be?
… aaaaannnnnndddddd clearly you've run out of things to say about Napier and your sinking ship located down there in America's n*tsack, so have to try to cheer yourself up by coming here. How have Floriduh's games against P5 opponents gone?
This 🤡 still here? Guess I can't blame he/she/it. Its very very depressing reading articles about the washed up florida Salamanders powder puff football team on their websites 🥱..
And there it is..Florida finally beats UGA ! uf faded into the sunset 15 years ago 🤣
Thank you! All this "reporting on other reporters' reporting" is, ironically, not really reporting :/
"Smart also pointed to positional overlap with Colbie Young. Like Thomas, Young is a big-bodied wide receiver who plays on the outside…"
Seriously Kirby, I'm starting to worry about you a little. If I were a premier OC making multi-millions a year at a premier college program, certainly I would be able to scheme up a few plays that both Colbie and Noah on the field at the same time…oh wait, Bobo…never mind. I can only imagine what a Lanning or a Day or a Kiff could scheme up with two elite 6'5" WRs that run like cheetahs and leap like deer…denial is a river in Egypt
Kirby talks about how good players are and how they put in the work, but never playing them in the gamesAre they really good? Or, is it Kirby blowing smoke? .
And with respect because I always appreciate your reasonable comments. You actually made My point. The problem is the Coaches, Not Gunner. The “ they don’t trust him” is in Them, Not Gunner. Quite frankly I don’t trust Bobo. He’s shown many times that he can **** Defeat out of the jaws of victory.
And I believe that KS is so locked in on the defensive side of things that he pretty much accepts whatever Bobo tells him. Including the supposed fixes.
I maintain that if you put Simpson behind the UGA OLine the way they’ve been playing with Bobo at the helm Simpson wouldn’t fare a bit better. And Yes in the first half Grubb out coached the Dawgs Defense. KS Did make adjustments but allot of damage had already been done.
Look we’ve seen, You’ve seen Gunner make deep throws. The throw to Taylor was pretty deep. Not Gunner’s fault that Bobo insists on numerous screen passes and runs up the middle.
YES Gunner Has missed some open people and that’s mainly on him, though I can’t blame him for not wanting to get plastered by some Huge DT or DE coming from the right side of the O Line !!
Lastly and again Gunner has made first downs ( some at critical times) and TDs with his feet that are not calculated into his passing game so that skews his over all performance a bit. Plus he’s been pretty careful at protecting the ball. He doesn’t have near the Interceptions that Mr. Heisman Manning has.
The Coaches mainly Bobo are not helping Gunner to be successful and I believe he could be if only they’d help him !!
Simpson barely got his jersey dirty playing behind HIS OLine. But he was shut out the entire second half, with respect hardly the mark of a Heisman candidate. KS adjusted to Grubb not Simpson and the Dawgs defense shut them out in the second half.
I’ve said this to much really but Gunner still holds the state record for total yardage. If he’s failing I’ll put it on Bobo before I will Gunner. Playing it Safe is Not how to coach. You either trust your players or you don’t. Apparently Bama trusts Simpson. Now Bobo needs to Trust Gunner and allow him to change plays at the LOS which he hadn’t been allowed to do.
We have High Schools in Ga. that would probably curb stomp the mud lizards Lol !! So how much is UF gonna owe Napier when they Fire him ? UF changes Head Coaches like most people change socks !! Talk about a dead program Lol !! But keep your chin up Yall might be back in 40-50 years but then again I doubt it. UF gets Tromped Tromped instead of Chomp, more like Chump !! 🤣🤣
@randyglass14 Quoting you: we have a QB (while performing ok) can't get past his first read and panics at the sight of a pass rush.
OK with all due respect if You had athletic legs to escape maybe even Gain yards wouldn’t YOU panic a little behind THIS O Line ?? Actually I think the more games that go by the more Gunner TRIES to stay in the pocket. But I wouldn’t let some monster tear my head off either !!
That said it sure ain’t Fear of being hit on Gunner’s part !! No it’s Fear of being sacked holding on to the ball. Coaches have probably pounded in his head Don’t take a sack now What Ever You Do !! So he’s Trying to be obedient !! And the kid isn’t allowed to change plays when HE sees a change in the defensive setup or alignment !! That’s just Wrong on Mr. Bobo !! Gunner CAN make the deep throws if Allowed to !! But Bobo loves screen passes and runs up the middle !!
Gunner has been careful to Protect the football maybe TO careful.
I just feel and believe that Gunner is playing with leg irons and handcuffs !! He’s not being Allowed to play the game that made him a 5 star and 4 star by some recruiting agencies.
He’s got what IT takes but he’s not being allowed to use IT.
There would be little to no condemnation of Gunner on here had 1) Nate not fumbled, it happens and Nate will be back with a vengeance 2) Taylor dropping a Deep pass that was right in his hands. That happens to and I’m confident Taylor will be back with a vengeance3) Kirby Smart trying to go for it instead of kicking the FG and tying the game. Dawgs defense had shut Bama down the whole second half.4) Bobo trying to be cute and hand the ball off to Cash. That’s on BOBO not Cash and certainly not Gunner.Had the Dawgs Won very few if any fans would be critical of Gunner.
NO sarcasm at you I promise. But blaming the QB for a Team Loss is just convenience. The Defense failed in the first half Along With The Offense. But Bama didn’t beat the Dawgs by a gazillion points !! No they won by Three points the easy FG that Kirby could’ve opted for being the difference !! What absolutely Amazes me is Kirby himself has said countless times You Always Take The Points !! Like Bobo he tried to get cute and it cost the game. Thats Not on Gunner.
Guess Who has the Third most rushing yards on the team ? Yep Gunner Stockton. From the Official UGA Site he has a Net of 146 yds. Averages a Net of 4.40 per carry and has made 3 TDs.
SO Yes of course his air yds won’t match up to the top Passing QBs. But Gunner Has gotten several, several Needed 1st downs at Critical times. He did that vs Bama got the 1st and Much more on one play I remember. If Taylor ( bless his heart I forgive him) had caught that Deep pass right on his hands and scored the easy TD most fans would probably be bragging about what a combo Stockton & Taylor !!
Gunner didn’t cost us the 3 point loss to Bama imho. Coaches did !! It’s OK to blame Coaches some times !! Most of the top Coaches definitely the HC make much more $$ than the highest paid NIL player at UGA. So when They fail it’s OK to put some of that on Them !! Here’s my Cry to Bobo: Free Gunner !! Let him play His game !! If he blows it it won’t be any worse than YOUR call to hand the ball off to Cash !! Said with No disrespect what so ever to Cash as he’s a Great player and has made numerous Great contributions to the team and Wins. But that play was busted from the start !! ALL teams Know that Cash is being used for fourth down plays. About as well had a lighted bill board over him !!
How to fix that ? Play Cash more in Normal circumstances for one. Then use someone else more often to go for it on fourth down. In other words put some mystery into Cash instead of advertising him as Our Fourth Down Specialist !! Heck there’s even been articles about him being in That role !! So it ain’t like rival teams don’t Know it !!
You are absolving GS of any blame for his play and laying it all on Bobo's O and the OL. Yet we have seen numerous times this season where GS has missed guys running open. He doesn't see them because he doesn't know where they are supposed to be. He is too busy watching the pressure to see what his reads are. We have seen it repeatedly this season. If the ball comes out in of his hand in 1 sec he is good. If he has to wait for a play to develop he either tucks and runs too early or does not locate the receivers that are running open. It is as if he is a brand new QB. Not a guy that has been in the system for 3 years. That is surprising. What has he been doing at practice and while watching film for 3 years? He has had the same O for at least 2 years. He should know where 3 or 4 WR/TE are on every play.
Bobo is definitely a problem but there have been open guys. GS just can't seem to find them. Watching the LOS for a QB trying to pass is a fatal flaw. He either fixes that or he has to go to the bench.
As for NThomas he reminded me immediately of Matt Landers. Thomas may be a 1 trick pony (deep fly or post). Landers was a zero trick pony. Could also be that Thomas doesn't block or know the offense. He has looked a little lost when he has been in the game.
I watched most of the 1st half of the Alabama game last night. Actually, for a young team UGA didn't play as bad as I initially thought. UGA just missed all its opportunities to distance itself from AL. THAT seems to be the theme whenever UGA plays AL. I used to think that was Saban magic. GS did not make any significant plays. He didn't lose the game but he definitely didn't win the game. Frazier fumbled at his own 10. UGA got out coached. AL threw at least 3 screens passes at UGA blitzes. The AL QB was very accurate (and knew where his guys were). Converted all(?) of his 3rd down plays in the 1st half.
From the Official UGA Site: Stetson Bennett ( Love the guy, he’s a DGD and a Dawgs Legend) had an average over 14 games played of 204.43 yds per game but 7 INTs. Must Note that his 2022 year was Much better !!
Over Four games played Gunner Stockton has an average of 212.75 yds per game and 0 INTs. SO and IF the Dawgs were to be able to Get 14 games played in AND Gunner stays at current trend he would have a some what better record than Stets strictly in terms of Passing. I didn’t check a comparison for running the ball between the two. But as of now with Four games played Gunner has 146 yds Rushing with 3 TDs and a Net avg of 4.0 running the ball.
Now just for the sake of discussion let’s say Gunner was a pure pocket passer right now he has 851 yds over Four games passing. Now if you replace the 146 yds rushing and bring that over to the Passing Stat that would be 997 yds. with 249.25 per game average. Not to shabby, not to shabby at all.
Now I Don’t Care how Gunner gets yards as long as it leads to a Win. Arm, Feet, or Both I’m fine with it as long as it leads to a Win. With the exception of the blind side s t r I p sack vs TN Gunner has been very protective of the football thus far. Just like he gets criticism for missing open receivers and YES that criticism Is justified He should Also get some appreciation for what he’s done with his Feet And for protecting the football.
Gunner was a Known Dual Threat QB when he was brought in. Everybody and their cousin knew that. Yet Bobo ( and KS) are trying or at least it seems that way to me to turn Gunner almost exclusively into a pure pocket passer. In so doing they are placing shackles on his natural abilities.
People talk about he abandons the pocket to early. Well as inconsistent as the Searls Coached O Line has been one can hardly blame him and say it with a straight face.
And Sorry but I don’t buy injuries as an excuse. The O Line was talked about repeatedly as having High Quality Depth. And I Still think it Does have depth. Unfortunately being Coached using antiquated and/or unsuitable methods for today’s CFB.
Kirby (Love him and deeply appreciate him) and Bobo ( I think he’s a DGD but mediocre at the very best OC) making the nice $$ they make comfortably shift the blame to Gunner and Other players. I’ll be very honest and frank about it, That chaff’s me pretty bad. And Not just for Gunner’s sake but All our players. Why can’t KS and Bobo in particular come out and say I blew it, Me right here, the players tried the best they could to execute the plays WE gave them but they failed because WE didn’t have a Better game plan.
I’m keenly aware of the old adage that crap rolls down hill, but a Great leader will be the First to take responsibility, Not shuffle it off on others. And whining about injuries Even When True is one of the quickest ways to lose face in CFB. No rival will feel sorry for you.
Maybe things will change starting verses KY. I sure Hope so. A great leader is more than willing to put some of His skin in the roaster though. If KS did more of that in media his players would be willing to jump off Mt. Everest for him !! Go Dawgs !!