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I didn’t bother to even finish reading your comment as it’s Very obvious you didn’t read mine. You just cherry picked what you wanted to Criticize MY comment. If you haven’t seen the inconsistencies in this O Line you apparently haven’t been watching the same team. And just so you know I DID call out Gunner’s missing people open. It’s Very easy and Very convenient to blame the QB for all the Team woes. I don’t choose to take that route. If you do that’s you’re right, have at it no matter how ridiculous it might be. Only response to You as I’ve done my best to avoid you. Oh and apparently you missed the comparison of Stetson Bennett (2021) over 14 games and Gunner over these four games. But I’m very sure that won’t impress you any. After all Gunner has that vastly superior very protective O Line that he can Count On to protect him while he Waits for a play to develop. Guess it’s much Easier to pick on One player than it is supposedly Veteran Coaches and other players. Last I checked it’s a Team sport. Oh and the Awesome Bama QB was Shut Out in the second half. It was the Bama OC and a Very Solid O Line that made the Awesome Bama QB look so good first half. KS figured out the Bama OC second half and Even without a decent pass rush proceeded to shut them down. We lost by 3 points Not 90. And Taylor dropped a Very Deep and sure TD pass. But I know that’s on Gunner to. 🙄
@GaBoi69 @Gramster I hear Yall and there are Many others that feel the same way. But it’s almost taboo not to criticize Kirby. And even Bobo for that matter. Like they are incapable of making mistakes. No blame the players in particular Gunner.
That’s the Easy route. And Gunner is supposed to have a million yds. passing throwing the Screen Passes that Bobo Directs him to throw. Anyone that bothered to watch Gunner’s post game interview would have Noted that Gunner is not allowed to change plays he has to strictly adhere to what Bobo calls in. But when those plays Don’t Work Kirby will back up his old buddy and blame it on Gunner or some other player.
Don’t get me wrong I Love and Appreciate ALL Kirby has done for UGA. And it would be very foolish to fire him. I just wish him And Bobo would man up and CLEARLY take responsibility and accountability when things go bad. It’s easier and more convenient to blame the players in particular Gunner.
Some Fans have adopted that same ideology. And that’s sad. Keep in mind I said Some, not Most, certainly not All.
As for Gunner his Stats over Four games are some what Better than Stetson Bennett’s was in 2021. Though Stets went on to improve Greatly in 2022. But Stets had some things that Gunner doesn’t have a Far better O Line and a Vastly superior OC.
As I’ve stated Multiple Times and will again Yes Gunner has missed some open people. So Yes he rightly deserves some criticism for that. I’ve said that to in previous posts. But as he deserves criticism he Also deserves some Appreciation for being our Third leading Rusher with 146 yds. averaging 4.0 yds per game and picking up Critical 1st downs Numerous times and scoring 3 TDs so far by his legs.
At this point he has ZERO INTs. And the S t r I o Sack he had vs TN was because the OLine Allowed a defender to slip past and hit him from the back. But don’t blame Coach Searls for that, no bland it all on Gunner. So I’ll conclude by saying it’s a Team sport, Coaches as well as players are not infallible. When and If Gunner starts throwing allot of INTs especially foolish ones and/or fumbles the ball allot, especially being careless with the ball I will come here and give my fair share of criticism.
But these Kids are human beings. I’m very sure NONE of us feel as bad as Nate Frazier does on that fumble. But I have allot of faith in him he’ll be back and better. Same thing with Taylor. I’m sure he felt crushed when he dropped that Deep pass from Gunner. Now he has significant injuries. But he to will come back and get better.
These players are young and Still maturing. But as for the Coaches they are older and in most cases are Veteran Coaches. What’s wrong with laying a little blame on Them ?? Is that against the rules or something ? I’ve been both a follower and a leader both in multiple situations. But I was Never above having to take on responsibility and accountability. Let’s hope the ship will start to be righted verses KY. Go Dawgs !!
@UGADad20 My apologies for the u g l y tone of my response to you. I agree that there are times Gunner has missed open receivers, for which the criticism is legitimate. But he also deserves appreciation for what he’s done with his legs And for protecting the football. Even With sometimes missing receivers he has actually done quite well. Elite ?? No. But quite well.
Now if Bobo would remove the shackles from him that is the authority to change plays at the LOS which he has not had and so far still doesn’t have per the post game interview vs Bama.
And let Gunner play His game with which he holds state records for total yardage. I believe we’d All see a better version of Gunner. If KS and Bobo “ don’t trust” Gunner then he shouldn’t be out there.
Bobo is not coaching Gunner Up by all appearances Rather he’s stymying Gunner’s natural abilities by trying to rebuild him into more of a pure pocket passer.
Imho the Bama OC was more of the factor in the first half than Simpson, though Simpson Did execute the plays he was given with precision I’ll give him that. But he was operating behind a very staunch O Line or at least the Dawgs pass rush was very ineffective.
In the second half though KS made adjustments and in spite of the lack of pass rush pretty much shut the Bama O down. So if a person that had never seen the game saw Only the first half they would ooh an Aaa about what a great QB Simpson is. Conversely if they saw Only the second half they’d say this Simpson kid ain’t all that hot.
It was the reverse in some ways with Gunner and company. They were stale pretty much in the first half and came back a little better the second. But the damage had already been done. A Loss IS a Loss points don’t really matter then. But strictly from a points view they only beat the Dawgs by three. Guess we’ll always wonder what would’ve happened had KS kicked the FG and tied it. So to close No Gunner is not Elite at this point but he’s done much more Good than bad especially when people Remember to take in account all he’s done with his feet Not just his arm. If you took his rushing ydg and added to his passing ydg he’d have 997 yds which averages to 249.25 yds per game over for games. Still not earth shattering but pretty decent. I believe that Bobo could and should play to Gunner’s strengths and so far that hasn’t happened. Just like not having Thomas & Young on the field at the same time. Bobo is a veteran coach he should be responsible and accountable to.
Golly gee whillickers, I wonder what it could be
Look at ga o now compared to when mister nice guy was coach and bobo was oc then. Same ole same ole. Thank God Herschel and Bowers were coached by someone else. Dude is averaging 10 yards a carry vs bama and they reward him by putting in a well liked scrub w 1.3 avg...when the game is on the line....mindblowing
I’m NOT saying it would’ve worked better. But it Might have been better to just snap the ball to Gunner and let Him run it in. He has the Third most rushing yds on the team averaging 4.0 per carry. Now and again the play might still have failed but it couldn’t have been much worse than what happened imho.
If you had read my entire post you would have read, "GS did not make any significant plays. He didn't lose the game but he definitely didn't win the game." The Taylor drop was a great throw. That would've have been a very significant play.
The Taylor drop sums up GS as a starting QB so far. He is locked into his primary receiver on every play. That was the play call in the huddle and he executed it to perfection. He has a kind of tunnel vision. Tunnel vision in a QB is not the best trait to have. He just seems uncomfortable and rusty in the O. He just doesn't seem to know where his receivers are after the initial primary guy.
You said something in one of you posts, "let GS play his game". We are seeing his game. It looks like his HS game. Too quick to run, 90 mph fastballs on most throws, not great pocket presence. He needs a lot of work that we all thought he was getting against the UGA "elite" D the last 3 years. Like I said it's surprising.
You compare his stats to SBIV. You forget that SBIV had a whole season of live game play in JC before ever starting a game at UGA. That experience is showing in the pocket presence and the comfort level SBIV seemed to have that GS does not have yet.
Again you are absolving GS of blame by shifting most/all the blame to the OL. The UGA OL was good enough to block for 227 yards of rushing. Alabama's OL? 117 yards rushing. The OL must be doing something right. You would think with that running success the UGA O would have been able to pass with more success than it did. Part of that is Bobo's calls, apparently UGA's WR's and certainly GS's execution.
As for the AL QB. The AL OC ran more in the 2nd half to try and run the clock down with AL leading. Without much success. Probably helped UGA get back in the game. A play out of the CKS/CMB playbook. Simpson was still able to throw for 86 yards in the 2nd half to GS's 43 second half passing yards (130 total passing yards/game vs Simpson's 276 passing yards). Of GS's six 2nd half completions only 1 was longer than 7 yards.
I don't see another QB on the UGA roster that we can expect to play better than GS this year. As I said in preseason GS is it. That is why it surprised me that CKS didn't pull an experienced QB from the TP. But I also said preseason that this season rides on how good GS plays. QB is the most critical position. GS will have to takes some big steps, and soon, if UGA is to win any post season games.
Well I Totally Disagree with your Overly Harsh criticism. You have your opinions I have mine. You Falsely claimed that I per your words “ TOTALLY absolved Gunner of all blame”. Which is patently false. Because I Did Not do that. I specifically cited that there have been times he’s missed open receivers.
YOU try standing behind a very porous O Line and find receivers, when you get body slammed a few times by Huge DTs and DEs after you’re concussion maybe you might see differently., but in you’re case I doubt it as that’d mean you’d have to say you were wrong. You don’t like Gunner maybe you shouldn’t watch the games as he’s the starting QB whether You like it or not.
I was doing really well avoiding your very arrogant “ wanna be” football expert comments. The last time I posted on one of You’re comments I very deliberately complimented you a little over a month ago. Trying in vain to make Peace with you.
So I will return to that mode of avoiding and ignoring You.. And would very much appreciate if you’d do the same. You are Totally absolving others of Their responsibilities People who Should Know far more about football than Gunner and Should be able to coach him Up using his natural abilities instead of trying to Cram him into something he’s not.
And You Don’t Know what Gunner’s game would be, you have NO inkling because NONE of us have seen it because he hasn’t been Allowed to play His game. Hes not even Allowed to change plays. So you can insult all you’re Arrogant day long but I’ll just ignore it.
I showed you Stetson Bennett’s stats over 14 games over these 4 Gunner has slightly better stats. I’m not gonna go through the exercise of repeating all that. I believe BOBO and SEARLS are the Main issues Not Gunner you believe whatever you want to from you’re ivory tower.
I tried to offer a peace offering and Just Like The Last Time you and I had a disagreement YOU threw it right back in my face. Shows me very clearly that you’re an Arrogant “ Always Gotta Be Right “ type. Well TO ME you’re Not right.
When I see Gunner throw allot of INTs especially Foolish ones and/or handle the ball carelessly causing allot of fumbles THEN I will be more critical of him. But the young man has done his job and More. You don’t like it give KS a buzz and tell him to change QBs then listen to the dial tone.
These things said I’ll go Back to where I should have stayed and that’s Avoiding YOU. I would Very Much appreciate it if You would do the same. When the Dawgs won over TN there were news articles and fans Galore bragging on Gunner, especially the throw to Humphries which I think was far better than the HS Insult You throwed out
It’s really Easy and really Convenient to blame the QB for a TEAM Loss. So You can continue to take the Easy and Convenient way, I’ll take the more Realistic way of saying that sometimes the TEAM loses and that starts with the COACHES.
You need not post a response and think that I’m gonna read it, because I’m moving on from You and the TEAM Loss to Bama that both KS and Bobo were Heavily involved in causing to the upcoming KY game.
I come here to Enjoy not to read arrogant snobs like You heavily and wrongly criticize Young men that are doing everything they possibly can ( at least Most of them) to please their Coaches, Teammates, and Fans only to get overly harsh criticism from some recliner chair coach like You. Good day to you Sir.
"Again you are absolving GS of blame by shifting most/all the blame to the OL." "TOTALLY", is not in anything I said. You made that up. I think you just like to pick fights with me. If you are going to put me in my place you better bring a better argument. But when you make up things that you say I said it just makes you look bad.
UGA's "porous" OL has given up less sacks than 11 other SEC teams. You are emotionally defending a guy you love w/o facts.
Don't insult me because you are emotionally defending a guy you love. I never said he was a bad player. He hasn't played that well and he needs to play a lot better for UGA to win games in the post season. He is not the only one but he is the QB. He is the most important player that needs to play well.
You don't need to make peace with anyone. Your opinion is your opinion. But I do take issue when you claim I said things that I didn't say. And I will always call you on that.
GS has been allowed to play his game as much as the coaches think he is capable of doing. Do you think they are not trying to put him in the best position to succeed? One of the problems GS has is that in HS GS was considered a duel threat QB. At the SEC level he is not athletic, quick or fast enough to be a better than average duel threat QB. GS is not the athlete at QB that SBIV was. We are starting to see that. What alarms me is what he does with the pass plays he is given.
I didn't throw anything back in your face. I just continued the conversation in a very logical and calm manner. Wherever you want to put the blame for GS's play so far this year, there have been guys open and he has not found them. That is not on Searels or Bobo. He completed 6 passes in the 2nd half of the AL game. Five of those passes went for 7, 6, 5, 3 and 1 yard. Let that sink in. After 3 years in the program is that what he is capable of or is that all the coaches trust him capable of? Remember what CBeck did in his 1st year as starter? Much more in command of of the O. Is the '25 OL any worse than the '23 OL? Certainly the '25 WR's are better than the '23 wr's.
"Again you are absolving GS of blame by shifting most/all the blame to the OL. The UGA OL was good enough to block for 227 yards of rushing. Alabama's OL? 117 yards rushing. The OL must be doing something right. You would think with that running success the UGA O would have been able to pass with more success than it did. Part of that is Bobo's calls, apparently UGA's WR's and certainly GS's execution." Is what I said. It is spot on and not harsh at all.
My "criticism" wasn't harsh at all. It is what football people are thinking after seeing a larger sample size of UGA and GS. You avoid debating me because you want to live in your bubble and ignore what is happening with this team.
@UGADad20 If I knew how to put you on Block I would. Hopefully one of the other posters here will share with me how to do that.
And who was the first to initiate this so called conversation Hmm ? YOU were. YOU quoted my comment. I didn’t ask for your football Lecture. But you being the arrogant football know it all you Think you are YOU reached out first.
NO you’re crap is far from logical and you Sir are a Liar to boot.
Your words: “You are absolving GS of any blame for his play and laying it all on Bobo's O and the OL.” I did use the word totally but I don’t see much difference in This context between Totally and Any.
Oh and the” better bring a better argument” comment was laughable. I Could but it’d take At Least a month to Try and probably fail to chip through you’re deliberate amnesia about Stets early playing time and Beck’s early playing time.
And I NEVER, EVER said Gunner was blameless that’s just crap You’re making up. I’ve looked at your posts since I’ve been on here you do not have the capability of ever admitting you’re wrong about Any thing. And you sure as heck would Never apologize for Any thing. That’d be beneath you.
I humbled down and apologized in an effort to make peace and get along this is the Second time I’ve done that on this board with you. On both occasions in your typical obnoxious arrogant way you threw it back in my face. More desirous of flexing your superior knowledge you Think you have than maybe getting along with someone and maybe forming a new friendship.
Mister I’ve seen allot with these old tired eyes of mine and I’ve unfortunately had to deal with Allot of people like You. You claim I like to pick fights with you but it was YOU who came roaring at Me being YES Overly and Harshly Critical of Gunner which is SO easy for you to do from you’re recliner chair.
Here’s the real deal you are an obnoxious, very arrogant person who fancies himself a expert probably not just on football but Any conversation.
Very Quick to criticize a very young man but totally unwilling to take any criticism yourself. And not above Bending the truth at the least. Now you claim I live in a bubble maybe so, but I didn’t invite You into it. So how bout you stay away from me and I’ll stay away from you.
And spare me you’re football Lectures which are 90% you’re opinion. I’ll stick with My birds of a feather and would appreciate it if you stick with yours. And Yeah I Do Love Gunner not in a perverse way or homo way but with Allot of respect for a fine young Christian man from a very good Christian family. I’m VERY SURE any mistakes he’s made he feels Far Worse than your cold critical heart is capable of.
I’ don’t want or need you’re sympathies but I’m going through Allot of issues in my life and I don’t need or want You lecturing me. I come here to Enjoy the conversation and be with people I consider my Cyber Friends. Not listen to some pompous arrogant wisenheimer like you Try to lecture and belittle me at the same time about Dawgs football.
Stay clear of me from here on and I’ll stay clear of you. I think that’d be best for both of us. I Know it will be for me. Good evening to you.
I only pointed out that you pointed the finger at others as the main reasons for GS difficulties. I pointed out what we all have seen. WR running open at times and GS not seeing them. Lack of pocket feel (ND fumble) that now results in a fixation on the pass rush. And an inability to improvise with his legs and arm so far despite having some mobility and arm strength. Not saying he can't get better just that it is surprising considering 3 years in the program. I will predict that if we don't see GS take off by the last quarter of the season UGA will have a different starting QB in '26.
"Your words: “You are absolving GS of any blame for his play and laying it all on Bobo's O and the OL.” I did use the word totally but I don’t see much difference in This context between Totally and Any." I reprinted my comments 3 times. Never said totally. Totally and any have (way) different meanings.
Any: "used to refer to one or some of a thing or number of things, no matter how much or how many."
Totally: "completely; absolutely"
So again you are getting all upset because of what you think I said. Let's face it, you don't like me. That is pretty clear. Yet when I counter your emotional claims with facts and stat's you attack me personally. I never came "roaring at you" about anything. I never criticized you personally (unlike you). You have a chip on your shoulder and a bit of an inferiority complex.
If you are going to be critical of my comments do it with logic and stats not insults. I stand by the comments I make about GS or anything UGA football. I wouldn't say them if I wasn't pretty sure they weren't correct. I will look forward to you showing me where my comments were/are wrong.
"respect for a fine young Christian man from a very good Christian family. I’m VERY SURE any mistakes he’s made he feels Far Worse than your cold critical heart is capable of." No doubt. Never said any different. I just gave you what the NFL QB evaluations are starting to write up for GS.