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CBS: Kirby Smart ‘best coach on the planet,’ but ‘still vulnerable’

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edited October 20 in Article commenting
imageCBS: Kirby Smart ‘best coach on the planet,’ but ‘still vulnerable’

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  • dazzledawgdazzledawg Posts: 389 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    You can find this stuff yourself. It must not be that hard to write for this site.

  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    the dawgs are 1 fumble or dropped pass away from being undefeated. Also true, the dawgs are a field goal, refs call, and making a 4th and 1, from being 3-4. Vurnerable? Apparently. Lucky? Maybe. Resilient? Absolutly!

  • mitch_earlmitch_earl Posts: 75 ✭✭ Sophomore
  • Eric_CEric_C Posts: 144 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited October 20

    Yikes, that is great praise for CKS, but it's not encouraging to hear that the team is "maxed out." Yeah I'd agree that the 2nd half team (or in the case of this last game - the 4th quarter team) has been maxed out most games, but the first half team is far from maxed out and is instead one of the most underachieving teams in FBS. As a fan, every P4 game minus Kentucky has felt like jumping out of a plane and hoping the parachute works in the end, and I just accept every one of the remaining P4 games will be the same way.

    In the game with Ole Miss, I appreciated the aggressive play calling on offense (e.g, flea flicker in first drive) and the blitz schemes early on in an attempt to rattle Chambliss. Even though it didn't help keep them from getting behind, I hope to see more of it.

    Looking down the road, the Texas game is probably the strongest blip on the radar…they get a bye week (of course they do) before coming to Athens. Kiffin as we know essentially had 3 weeks to prepare for UGA and we should expect Texas will be fired up and prepared in similar fashion, just like all other teams who circle the game with UGA well before the season starts. As Kirby likes to say, just keep chopping.

  • jdatl3jdatl3 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    They are getting the max out of this group, but don't forget, there are a huge number of freshmen and sophomores on this field. Imagine next year, or the year after. They lack a few pieces, but they are getting there. Way ahead of other teams in processing talent. Way, way ahead. Tech will give UGA a good run this year, but not next year.

  • SCDawgFanSCDawgFan Posts: 96 ✭✭✭ Junior

    I know we share open weeks with Bama and Florida on this year's schedule, but who else do we play that is open the week before they play us? I know Texas is and Ole Miss basically used their open week and non-conference opponent to prepare…but is there anyone else that is open prior to playing UGA? Seems like the schedule makers routinely make things tougher on UGA than others.

  • mitch_earlmitch_earl Posts: 75 ✭✭ Sophomore

    @Brooksie Nah, sorry.

    1. UGA beat Tennessee because their QB choked. He played loose and was having fun early because Georgia was favored. Then when Tennessee got the big lead, the mental pressure started and he couldn't deal with it. He was missing wide open WRs that he was hitting with no problem previously despite UGA not getting consistent pressure. It isn't a big deal. Heupel has done a great job at Tennessee, getting them back to consistently winning despite Georgia and Bama being contenders (something that Phil Fulmer never had to deal with in his prime). But he still hasn't instilled the "we can consistently win big games" mindset yet. Or a program that requires him to grab a small college QB out of the transfer portal and get him on the field within months. Yes, he is actually better than the guy that he replaced, but still Heupel has a job to do.
    2. UGA beat Auburn because Hugh Freeze decided to play hero ball with his "just better than average" QB. Had it off to Jeremiah Cobb or better yet Damari Alston (215 lbs) up the middle instead of having Jackson Arnold pretend to be Jalen Hurts and it is 17-0 well into the 2nd quarter with UGA's offense not having done a thing all day. And this doesn't even factor in how the referees very easily could have called not only the fumble a TD for Auburn, but how they could have given Auburn a TD on the previous play instead of spotting it on the 1.

    Georgia is a lot closer to 5-2 than 7-0. And this is without playing a single loaded or dominant team that is balanced on both sides of the ball. The Ole Miss team from last year - which had 8 draft picks including 1st round starting NFL QB Jaxson Dart and 1st, 3rd 5th and 6th round picks in the front 7 and this does not even include Jared Ivey who had 7 sacks but went undrafted due to off the field issues but easily made an NFL active roster - beats this Ole Miss team by 2 TDs. Tennessee got hammered 37-20 by Bama and it wasn't even that close. Bama is 6-1, true, but with no running game and without the stars at WR or on defense that they had in the Saban era. They lost big to FSU, really could have lost to UGA and honestly would have lost to Missouri were Eli Drinkwitz a better gameday coach. (Florida should still hire him, as similar to Dabo Swinney, Mack Brown and Phil Fulmer, he would assemble enough talent to cover his other issues.)

    That said, Georgia still has a real shot this year. The best teams that I have seen this year that weren't built with the transfer portal are Ohio State (with a freshman QB) and Texas A&M. But that will require two things that Kirby Smart at this point in his career doesn't want to do: return to a "feature back" philosophy on offense and change his philosophy on defense.

  • mitch_earlmitch_earl Posts: 75 ✭✭ Sophomore

    @MikeGriffith

    Clemson won a national title in 2018. The offensive coordinator for that team? Tony Elliot, who is 6-1 at Virginia and one play from 7-0. They only need to go 2 out of 3 against teams with winning records to finish the regular season 10-2 and have the second best season in program history. Those 3 teams are Duke, Cal and Wake Forest. In fairness, Duke and Cal are road games. The defensive coordinator for that team? Brent Venables, 6-1 at Oklahoma. Kind of makes you think eh?

    Of course, Dabo Swinney was a successful head coach before either of those guys, including making the 2011 Orange Bowl in Clemson's best season since the Danny Ford era. And he deserves credit for hiring Elliot, Venables and his other famous assistant Chad Morris in the first place. But it really shows the importance of assistants. Especially in recruiting, as Clemson has neither the big time defensive linemen or the big time RBs and WRs that they did when Venables and Elliot were there.

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 32,482 mod
    1. Tennessee lost bc their kicker couldn’t make the FG at the end of regulation. We took it from there in OT.
    2. Auburn lost bc they let an unfortunate set of circumstances influence how they play while gaining 52 yards of offense in the second half. Most of it coming on the final, fruitless drive.
    3. Those Clemson boards must be pretty boring to be slumming it here eh?
  • BrooksieBrooksie Posts: 747 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited October 20

    I don’t disagree with you, but I was just agreeing with the authors headline that the Dawgs are vulnerable

  • D1Athlete1987D1Athlete1987 Posts: 29 ✭✭ Sophomore

    This is this such a ridiculous cop out way of thinking. Field goals are part of the game. Uga didnt miss any and the other team did. You never are given a game bc another team didnt make one. They could have scored more points to not need a fg, but they were unable to. Uga won bc they were the more complete team. Its such a fallacy to say oh the other team gave it bc of a missed fg. They dont want to be in that situation you had all game to score more points just like uga did. The better team who played the more complete game won.

    Auburn lost bc they were not the better team. Just bc you play better to start does not mean you deserve to win. Doesnt matter at which point you play well over 60 minutes. It is who does the most within that time frame. Doesnt matter if its to.begin, solely in the middle, the end, or a steady bit throughout the entire game. The team who has the best results of the total 60 comes out on top. Auburn has its issues. Uga did not. You cant condemn one team for something and not give credit to the other team for not faltering for those same reasons. Is just a biased or false way of negative thinking to try to portray things in a certain way. One team in each game got it done. The other didnt. Uga could have been the team to do what tennessee or Auburn did, but they did not. Its not fluke its who they are and its disingenuous to assume otherwise.

    As for could they have lost games in general? Sure. Any team in the country who has played real competetion can say the exact same thing this year. What separates the top teams from the bottom are who actually is able to come out on top. You do not have to beat everyone by blowing them out in domination to be deserve the win or be the better team. To be the better team you just have to win the game because that is what good teams and winners do. They win. You can talk hypothetical or what "should" have happened but the results were what they were because of who teams are and how the players performed in that moment. Ita the same way for uga losing to alabama. We "could/should" be 7-0, but we are not because they faltered instead of getting it done. The team that does what they are supposed to do wins plain and simple. No game in the past means anything moving forward. Its a bit cliche, but it holds true. Every week you have the team in front of you and nothing else matters at that point. You take care of it and onto the next. There are always coulda/shoulda/woulda, but you did what you did and the results were the results making it what is it and what it should have been because its what you did that matters and got those results. Whether its not missing a fg or not giving up your actions are what determines the outcome and while things "could" have went differently they played out exactly as they did bc of how a team performed when it mattered.

    The team is not perfect. No one ever will be again moving forward. Expectations must be recalibrated to modern reality. Even with that this team is improving each week. Even the defense is close. Not to 21 22 bc we already covered thats not possible just like a human can not fly like a superhero. The team is young and or inexperienced even where they are older at most spots. Most fans see results, but if u look closely even against ole miss they could have had af least 3 stops on the first half if not for DPI, several missed tackles in which players were in place and just failed to execute and a missed sacks in which they had free shots at the qb. Those are all easy fixes if the players just finish. There are times they could tweak the scheme a but, but if playersbdo what they are supposed to and finish the simple plays they are already in position to make the game outcome is completely different. They are close. Whether they get there or not still remains to be seen. All comes down to consistency, but where other teams have bigger and more scheme or personnel issues ours are more realistic and as simple as just finishing on a play they more consistently that they typically make. Issue is thst most of our 3rd and 4th and even 2nd year players on d had not played in enough snaps to be meaningful if at all prior to this year. Mistakes will happen, but they are very close. This team has a trait that losing and bad teams don't. Finding a way and never quitting. That is a skill in itself. Is a nc in the cards? Maybe not, but every week you can improve and things can become completely different (see ND and osu last year). So why not uga this year? They have done what they had to keep them in position to have a chance. Everything is in front of them. Maybe it does not work out, but they have just as much as chance of improving and doing it as they do of not. Fans need to appreciate that in a year of rebuild and basically to gain experience this team is winning. Most teams in this cycle of year of growth end up losing games but uga stands above. Is it what used to seeing? No, but times have changed and even if they did not we were never maintaining the same level of 21' until the end of time. Be grateful the "down" years are still resulting in one of the best programs in the country who are positioned to have a chance at it all should they continue to work and get it done. Most teams would be in a cycle year of hoping to be .500 with the amount of guys playing meaningful amount of snaps for the first time.

  • BeachwagonBeachwagon Posts: 615 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Unfortunately, the fantastic head coach Kirby Smart is being let down by his two coordinators, his personal friends. Kirby would do well to watch the Classic "12 O'Clock High" with Gregory Peck to see how misplaced loyalty to friends at work can lead to organizational failure. Smart needs to start recruiting replacements to his current assistant coordinators NOW and replace them at season's end with more capable coordinators with presence, brains, and high energy. To do otherwise is not fair to those highly touted players he recruited so skillfully. Replace them at season's end. It will be worth the crazy buyout costs that the university should have never signed up for. Bobo and Schumann are both pulling down in excess of $2M per year. Nobody else would hire them as an entry analyst.

  • navydawgnavydawg Posts: 4,839 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Loved your comments !! Great read !! To put it in my ole countryfied way of saying it: Great Leaders FIND a way to Win. Close is only good in horseshoes and hand grenades. And Never Ever give up the ship !! In a very simplified way this is what I got from your comments.

    Man people like you are people I enjoy being around !! And there are Allot of such people here I’m blessed to say. The Dawgs Never give up because that’s how Kirby and his coaches train them. Yes they get off to slow starts. No ( at this point) they’re not perfect. Though I’m not sure a “perfect” team exists now or ever. Not the flashiest glitzy team but you don’t need that necessarily to win.

    But Tough ? Yes Very much so. Resilient ? Yes very much so. And you could add patient. Plus they Trust the coaches. I love the Never Give Uo mantra of our Dawgs. To me that’s one of if not The most important trait of all !! I bet you were and Still are a fearsome competitor. My Old body is all broken down now. But I boxed in HS I Always wanted the toughest guy to match to as I figured if I beat Him the rest I could beat to. That’s why I don’t have any brains now Lol !! 🤪. Go Dawgs !!

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