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Amid Georgia directive to not schedule Texas Tech, Cody Campbell calls out Georgia football program
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Amid Georgia directive to not schedule Texas Tech, Cody Campbell calls out Georgia football program
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Notice the difference in dialogue. Brooks is logical and measured. Campbell sounds like a 12 year old. Apples and Oranges my friends.
As for the following quote:
“We can’t allow the Wild West to continue any longer,” Morehead said.
All hail Captain Obvious.
TT judge has now set a precedence. This is really bad for the future.
As I've said for years..NCAA is an acronym for National Corrupt Athletic ASSociation and this proves it. You can cheat, gamble, do whatever, while this JOKE of an organization called the ncaa looks the other way. They then reward you, by giving you an extra year of eligibility, when the 🤡 should've been banned from football for life..The I D I O T(S) responsible for this outcome= TRUE, STINKING pile(s) of corrupt 💩
34 UGA football players got arrested in the last 3 years and nary a peep out of Brooks. Way to take a stand, Josh.
“True integrity means holding your program accountable when things go wrong, not buying custom legislation or running to a local courtroom to bypass the rules,” Brooks tweeted.
This 👆
Speeding arrests do not compare with a QB betting on the outcome of his team’s games. To bet on a game when the quality of your performance could influence the outcome threatens the integrity of the sport. Would anyone want to watch a sport where players occasionally throw a game to win money? It is an ethical and moral issue, and it would be destructive to TV ratings and stadium attendance. While unacceptable, speeding arrests do not negatively affect other teams in a league.
Suspensions and dismissals appropriate to the crime. It does not excuse the actions of the students but to imply nothing was done by the school is just flat wrong. But also, speeding and controlled substance use (aside from performance enhancing) are not NCAA rule violations. They are administered by the schools and at least the University of Georgia does enforce internal punishment for these.
Gambling is a known NCAA rules violation with a known consequence. Or at least there was. Not at all the same thing.
Now that player gambling on your own team is allowed— on top of players telling programs how much they're going to be paid, what position they're going to play, when they're going to play, and bolting when things get uncomfortable— this is no longer college sports or maybe even sports in general… it's officially a racket. I'm admittedly pretty addicted to Georgia sports, but pretty close to being "done" with this crap as it becomes a shadow of its original self. Go Dawgs!
As I understand it, the NCAA declared Sorsby ineligible. Then a local Texas judge stepped in and blocked the NCAA from enforcing the suspension. His justification seems to be that the punishment would hurt the player’s career — but that’s the whole point of consequences. When you break rules, there are penalties. I’m not usually an NCAA defender, but in this case the issue isn’t them — it’s the idea that an outside judge can overrule normal eligibility rules just because he doesn’t like the outcome.
If I were the NCAA, I’d make it simple: the player can take the field if the team wants him to, but any game he participates in is an automatic forfeit, and the program becomes ineligible for postseason play. Teams can’t have it both ways.
Love the stance & leadership shown by Brooks. And Cody Campbell sounds like a child. I don't think a football player being arrested for speeding (as thousands of regular citizens do also) can affect the outcome & integrity of a game. You lose the entire concept & sport if players are allowed to bet, especially on their own team. I'm not going to pay to go or watch a game if it's known in advance that could likely happen. I think maybe MLB, unfortunately for Pete Rose, understood the danger of even allowing a hint go gambling on your own sport & especially your own team. So logical.
JayDog and 87dawg, very well said!
The fact that Texas Tech wants to defend this action and not be as far as possible from internal gambling speaks volumes for the integrity of the school.
Most of what you say is correct. "Substance abuse" may not be against NCAA rules but it is against the law in GA. The state of GA, unlike the NCAA, has laws that are enforceable and significantly more important in maintaining order and safety in society than NCAA rules.
People who turn a blind eye to speeding and substance abuse very conveniently forgot that those abuses cost 2 UGA students their lives. Ask their families which is the more dangerous endeavor; speeding or betting on football.
As for substance abuse, you know UGA players use marijuana. Probably a lot. How would you all feel if you found out all the UGA DB's "party'd on Garth!" before the UGA/Ole MS playoff game last year? Not saying they did but their play certainly looked like they might've been under the influence of something. It certainly wasn't under the influence of good coaching and preparation. I am guessing that many more CFB game's outcomes are influenced by players playing impaired by pot use than by players point shaving.
It seems many people did not do their homework regarding what Sorsby did and didn't do.
"NCAA investigations concluded that Sorsby did not bet on any games he actively played in and did not engage in point shaving or any activity intended to influence the outcome of a contest", ESPN.
I never "implied nothing was done" in the UGA cases. My point initially was that Josh Brooks has been surprisingly silent during all of the UGA transgressions yet now finds his voice. Seems hypocritical. After all no students died from Sorsby's betting activity.
But I am not surprised. Brooks is a figurehead. The real boss of UGA athletics is Kirby Smart. That is clearly shown by the distribution of resources relative to football vs other sports at UGA. As well as the number of football players that run afoul of the law vs all the other sports at UGA.
OK so we have NIL, the TP, and now the Judge says it’s just fine for a player to gamble on his team. CFB is setting up just wonderful for fans ain’t it ? 🙄 Just to be sure everyone understands that was my sarcasm. As has already been stated by @RedUga4Ever this might set a legal precedent. Which I agree. Note how TT is going for the sympathy angle with the “ gambling is a mental health issue”. So how long has he been gambling and on what ? Doesn’t there have to be a Trend for it to be declared a “ mental health issue” ? Sounds like a cop out of responsibility to me.