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Braves Pitching

SouthGA_DawgSouthGA_Dawg Posts: 226 ✭✭✭ Junior

We have a deep crop of prospects, too many to give 25 starts to a season so with some more of those getting close to being ready for the pros, What should the braves do with these plethora of arms?

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  • TNDawg71TNDawg71 Posts: 1,267 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Wait it out, some of them will take the next step, some won't.

    When the "young guns" came out and Glavine, Avery and Smoltz took over there were many other young arms in the organization that the Braves were just as high on. Pete Smith, Tommy Greene, Kent Mercker, Derek Lilliquist, Marty Clary and more. Honestly Avery was the most hyped of all of the prospects.

  • MacDawg15MacDawg15 Posts: 2,011 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Trade the RIGHT ones for a franchise catcher (like Realmuto), a stud CF with multiple years on his contract, or bring Kimbrel back and beef up the bullpen!

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Just keep the talent in-house and watch the franchise grow by 5 wins a year.

  • kelly_bkelly_b Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 24

    The great thing is that the Braves have so many options right now. They don't have to move anyone, but I would consider seriously pursuing Kimbrel. Having a closer is a true need. If they allow the Phils to get him and improve their pen, it could be bad for the Braves this year. Mac will help our young guys develop and teach them how to pitch.

    I think our rotation looks like this currently:

    1. Folty
    2. Gausman
    3. Newcomb
    4. Julio
    5. Sorotka/Toussaint

    We'll get nothing for Tehran. If both Sorotka and Toussaint work out, we could possibly move JT to the pen. If we could somehow get CK back, then we're in the NLCS.

    Aside that, I like @Bigcalidawg's and @TNDawg71 take on being patient.

    EDIT: Does anyone believe that the Braves have an insider's shot at getting our southern boy back down south? I'm not as familiar w/ his agent as I am Boras, so I don't know if he's as ruthless as Boras is and what his influence is on Kimbrel. Thoughts?

  • BigcalidawgBigcalidawg Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    So much $$$ on a closer. I don’t see it

  • kelly_bkelly_b Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 25

    I would have agreed before the days of ridiculously low pitch counts and as Verducci has explained before, the stats about pitch counts don't necessarily prove that it protects the health of the starter. A surefire HOF shutdown closer like Kimbrel is worth it IMO - if the Braves want to win now. This piece is a little dated but still relevant.

    "How is it possible that in 10 years all 30 teams agree on the same one-size-fits-all philosophy when it comes to pitching? How could Johnson, Garcia and Hernandez -- all of whom compiled prolific careers -- do in one day what the entire industry could not do in the subsequent decade? And how could every organization agree on the same philosophy while pitchers do not remain healthier and leads are not better protected under this bowing down to the pitch count? What does it say about advances in nutrition, biomechanics, medicine and other sciences that pitchers have become less productive?" -- The below article is good but is still not the one I'm searching for. Seems to have portalized into magical cornfield of lore.


  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 4,004 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It’s a pretty important role on the roster, especially in playoff situations where guys just mentally melt. Kimbrel could be the missing piece. The reat of the bullpen would be much stronger just having everyone else slide back a spot. Vizcaino as the primary setup guy would be very solid. I expect to see the Top 3 guys go 7 a lot this year. If Teheran can ever string together a season then the Braves could run away with the division. A lot depends on Gausman maintaining the fix he found after coming over from Baltimore.

    This will be the 3rd straight year I am surprised to see Teheran still on the roster.

  • corai3corai3 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Should've traded Julio a couple years ago. I do appreciate the years he put in, but it's time to move on.

  • kelly_bkelly_b Posts: 1,315 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I was and am a JT fan. When he's on he's great. Remember the four game sweep a few years back of the Cards. JT pitched the final Sunday game and I was there. He was magnificent. Maybe Mac can help him transition? Hope so.

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