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Robert Kraft

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    KaseyKasey Posts: 28,879 mod

    Found not guilty due to the NFL Tug rule

    h/t to Cousin Sal Iacono

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    orlandoorlando Posts: 2,322 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    With all the bank the man has, you’d think he could do better than the local massage parlor. SMH

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If party A wants to sell their body and party B is a willing buyer, I have no issue as long as it's done in private, both parties are adults and the environment isn't damaging to a commercial area or neighborhood.

    Still...****, a massage parlor ? he should be ringing up high end escorts who know how to be discrete.

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    WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 17,293 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I hate to agree with Levander on anything, including the time of day, but.

    Being very punitive in dealing with drunk drivers is essential in limiting their presence on our roads.

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    YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,112 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Of course. Him not knowing doesn't absolve him of supporting the practice. That's why they make first time offenders take a course on how damaging human trafficking is and how they sustain the system by paying for prostitutes

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    levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    You are just going off on a religious rant? Or you have personal extensive experience with women who work in the sex trade?

    Was it in the news that the women at that place don’t speak English or you’re assuming that?

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    benjaminwgreggbenjaminwgregg Posts: 677 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I'm just saying I don't think he can claim ignorance thats all.

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    ugaforeverugaforever Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    Money talks, he will walk. The whole thing is a mute point. Put your ideals in your pocket and grab another TMZ story to ride on.

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    ugaforeverugaforever Posts: 802 ✭✭✭✭ Senior
    edited February 2019

    In the big picture of life, do you really care about this? Get a hobby.

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    BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 5,348 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    That’s exactly my point. The amount of time they suspend the license is nothing compared to the consequences suffered by the victims, not to mention there is no difference in penalties for someone at .08 vs a legitimately intoxicated BAC like happens the more you exceed the speed limit. You can point to the legal code but what happens in real life is mosty focused on the money. If DUI’s were REALLY about saving lives the punishments would be much worse. As you said, your friend still had a license to drive to and from work and all over town for various reasons. @WCDawg, You arent “agreeing with Levander” that DUI’s should be severly punished. He thinks the penalties are already harsh enough.

    Surprising someone with an Ivy League background would buy that garbage about consumer safety in regard to Uber and Lyft. That angle failed when it was pointed out there has always been an electronic record of the driver, rider, pickup location, and drop off point with both companies - something that still does not exist with a taxi. The transactions are cashless, making them much less of a target for thieves. The “public safety” line was immediately ridiculed by Uber and Lyft customers, and for good reason. It was a made up ploy that only briefly got the support of the same type of nitwit mentality that thinks gun control is a solution to keep guns away from criminals. The Uber fight was just another example of being about the Benjamins.

    @scooterdawg You might be the only person on the board dumber than Levander. Never once have I said penalties should be lighter. Reading and comprehension is an ongoing problem with you.

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    levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    @Bankwalker

    Since you’ve already made a fool of yourself with the comments where it turned out you had no idea if they revoke a driver’s license or not, it’s probably not a good idea for you to double down trying to establish yourself as some kind of expert.

    Just laugh it off and say you got carried away or something, Or just don’t say anything. Nobody’s going to really read that research white paper you just decided to publish above anyway.

    You’re trying too hard. Just tone it down.

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    levanderlevander Posts: 4,481 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    I’m surprised at the number of people saying prostitution in this thread shouldn’t be illegal. Here’s a video I watched maybe a month ago that basically spelled out everything I had alway kind of suspected. But the lady says it all with facts and experience to back it up. And weaves it all together in a way that makes much more sense than I had ever bothered to try to. And I kind of knew the difference between legalization and decriminalization of various activities. But this lady really makes the difference plain.

    If you want to be able to explain why you think prostitution shouldn’t be illegal, this is a good video to watch:

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    christopheruleschristopherules Posts: 14,296 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    To me, this really is a non-news story. He's widowed. He's old. He's extremely wealthy. He is not a story much at all. IMHO he might have pi$$ed someone off. This is merely an attempt to just embarrass him for a while in public. This too shall pass.

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    YaleDawgYaleDawg Posts: 7,112 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    If a person has multiple DUIs or a victim is involved the DUI is no longer a simple misdemeanor due to "aggravating factors". In the case of multiple DUIs you move from high misdemeanor for the 2nd offense to a felony by the fourth. DUIs that result in bodily injury to another are felonies. You seem to think drunk drivers can kill people and go home the next day as long as they pay a fine. Yes, going to work and the grocery store on the way home from work and church on Sunday is "all over town".

    The main contention over safety between ride hailing services and cities was finger printing drivers and vehicle inspections. Taxi companies have to submit to these and other regulations which made them feel as if the playing field wasn't level. Those were the issues and it had nothing to do with drunk driving money as you say.

    BAC over .08 is definitely intoxicated and people should avoid driving with any BAC over 0.

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    pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yeah....at first I thought this was a funny story kind of like when Hugh Grant got caught with a hooker. Now it’s taken a darker turn. This could be really bad for Kraft. If it’s true, I hope they lock his azz away for a very long time. This will probably be the end of the Pat’s dynasty.

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    pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2019

    Makes you wonder what was going on at that place that got his attention. Was he able to get something there that he couldn’t get somewhere else? Makes me thing there is something a lot more sinister going on than a simple happy ending. The guy could walk into any bar in Boston and walk out with any number of opportunistic non-hooker women if that is all he wanted. I’ll wager that underage girls were involved. When the dirty details come up, someone better put Kraft on suicide watch. This is going to get very ****.

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    SoFL_DawgSoFL_Dawg Posts: 11,084 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Wait...you want him locked up for a long time because he got a happy ending? Dramatic much? I guess he conspired with and orchestrated the sex trafficking too. For Christian folks, some sure like to throw that first stone with Randy Johnson type heat. Unbelievable.

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    pgjacksonpgjackson Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited February 2019

    I agree if it was just a simple “guy wanted to get laid so he hired a hooker” story. I don’t think it’s that simple. Sex trafficking is suspected...and most sex trafficking involves children. Why would a gazillionaire fly to florida to a cheap ****-mall massage parlor to get some nookie? They were able to provide something he couldn’t get elsewhere. There is a lot more to this story.

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