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CLEMSON CHEATING!?!?!?

Ugadawg1993Ugadawg1993 Posts: 88 ✭✭✭ Junior
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  • AgDawgAgDawg Posts: 755 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Ya don’t say? I would never have thought that wholesome, family oriented program would cheat.

  • TheSmartWayTheSmartWay Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yikes, it's obvious that everyone is doing this. I'm just hoping that UGA isn't one of the schools that gets caught. Crazy how we were able to pull in a top basketball prospect out of the blue this year, isn't it?

  • TomGroseTomGrose Posts: 165 ✭✭✭ Junior
    edited April 25

    "Yikes, it's obvious that everyone is doing this. I'm just hoping that UGA isn't one of the schools that gets caught. Crazy how we were able to pull in a top basketball prospect out of the blue this year, isn't it?"

    It isn't obvious that everyone is doing it.

    If you're a Georgia fan why would you smear the program by lumping the Dawgs in with a bunch of cheating lowlifes without evidence?

  • DipDawgDipDawg Posts: 43 ✭✭✭ Junior

    "If you use resources at Clemson, like you can really keep everything tight."

    I'm not really sure how incriminating that statement is. That can be taken in a lot of different ways. But hopefully its enough to get Bresee to decommit today hahaha.

  • TeddyTeddy Posts: 3,471 mod

    The statement by itself isn’t incriminating, but considering he said it around the time he was talking about trying to pay Zion to come to Clemson adds a little weight to the incriminating side. But since he didn’t come out and just say they were cheating, doubt much comes of this. Unless he, or others, start talking specific examples to the FBI.

  • BankwalkerBankwalker Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Glass houses.

    Plus, I highly doubt this true of Clemson. They have ALWAYS been known as a “clean” school, all the way back to Charley Pell and Danny Ford. 😂

  • superdawgsuperdawg Posts: 335 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    All the top programs do it, no need for a "holier than thou" attitude...if you get caught, then you get caught...if you don't get caught and you win championships, the payoff is worth the risk...just know that these kids get offered incentive packages at a lot of places, so you still have to recruit, coach & develop....it's not as easy as paying a bunch of 5 star guys and waiting on the trophies to roll in...Duke's men's basketball team had the top 3 recruits in the country and couldn't even make the final 4....I don't care if I get slammed for this, because our truth is also our rivals truth...

  • MIghtydawgMIghtydawg Posts: 638 ✭✭✭✭ Senior

    There is low level additional benefits ($100 handshakes, making college experience comparable to student population, cars, etc.) at every major school. The question is whether high level payments ($50,000 plus) are happening at every school. Alabama got busted for paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for Albert Means so we know it goes on there. Miss St. got busted for offer hundreds of thousands of dollars for Cam Newton. Cam Newton went to Auburn so we are pretty sure that Auburn is doing it too. along with the statement of the recruit that auburn should have made a better offer to get Pickens. The basketball scandal has shown numerous basketball programs paying $100,000 plus to get an elite recruit.

  • TomGroseTomGrose Posts: 165 ✭✭✭ Junior
  • texdawgtexdawg Posts: 966 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Read the bagman article that was in SB nation a few months ago. It is really pretty accurate.

    I can assure you that Dabo doesn't know anything about it.

    I played college football in the old Southwest conference in the 80s (some of you older guys remember how dirty that was), coached high school for almost 30 years and currently have a son just starting the recruiting process so I'm somewhat familiar with how recruiting works.

    Things happen but it's not as obvious or egregious as some of you might think. And it doesn't work like basketball. Basketball is much dirtier.

    Nothing will come out concerning Clemson and no one wants anything to come out.

  • WCDawgWCDawg Posts: 13,128 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 25

    Clempson folk is a bunch of ly'n', cheat'n sister marry' 'n yokels with chronic body odor.

  • FirePlugDawgFirePlugDawg Posts: 3,568 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • CatfishCatfish Posts: 1,086 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    The bagman giveth and the bagman rateth yer a s s out to avoid federal time!

  • TheSmartWayTheSmartWay Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Hey man, I respect your opinion if you don't believe that everyone is doing it. However, it seems to me and most others that top prospects across the major college sports are obviously getting paid by everyone who's landing them. "lumping the dawgs with a bunch of cheating lowlifes" is a pretty harsh way of interpreting my statement that everyone including UGA is paying players. Hopefully we can both agree that the system needs to change, however I don't see your perspective that some programs are "cheating lowlifes" while UGA is landing a bunch of awesome guys who are turning down these other offers to play for free at UGA.

  • christopheruleschristopherules Posts: 3,190 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
    edited April 25

    Unbelievable.

  • 3rdshift3rdshift Posts: 351 ✭✭✭ Junior

    recruiting is a bloodsport just like politics...and really any other billion +$ industry.... just because you think your fav program is perfect doesn't make it true..... 2 big 2 fail...it will blow over..... but clemson is laughable to everyone without orange glasses......keep thinking your the shinning beacon of moral goodness ...in a world of kill or be killed...

    waiting for the "snitches" the tiger memes to go viral

  • MeR3htidMeR3htid Posts: 1,966 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    It's the players that are getting cheated if they're not being paid. 😎😎😎

  • brentwilsonbrentwilson Posts: 2,290 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    out of the blue? Edwards is a home-grown GA guy. Crean is a maestro with shooting guard development. (See D-Wade, Oladipo, Ferrel) It’s not out of the blue to stay home and play for your state and get the same developments you could far away.

  • FreesafetyFreesafety Posts: 6 ✭ Freshman

    2 natty rings in 3 years. Maybe you guys will get one again. Someday.

  • muttley1211muttley1211 Posts: 60 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Yup, we might. Someday.

    ....Your response didn’t deny the lying, cheating, sister marrying or chronic body odor though.

    🧐

  • KaseyKasey Posts: 7,297 mod

    How many orange PED bottles though? 2 per player or more?

  • bmauldinbmauldin Posts: 3,807 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Yes... the draw of being a non-powdery white person in Lexington, Kentucky...

  • TomGroseTomGrose Posts: 165 ✭✭✭ Junior

    Really? You respect my opinion when I don't accept the pronouncements of internet rumormongers whose evidence consists of "everybody knows it's true?"

    Whew. I'm glad I was sitting down when I read that.

  • tfk_fanboytfk_fanboy Posts: 1,421 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate
  • TheSmartWayTheSmartWay Posts: 581 ✭✭✭✭✭ Graduate

    Geez man, yes I do respect your opinion. Seems like you may not be respecting mine. I’m not here to argue with you but I’ll defend my perspective to you again more clearly.

    Its obvious *to me* that “everyone is doing it”. I get that it may not be obvious to you and again I respect that. However, all the info coming out about these top guys (and even some mid-tier guys) getting paid seems to me like a pattern. Obviously if Duke hadn’t paid Zion then he would have gone to Clemson or somewhere that was going to pay him and his family. What are the realistic odds that other guys like Ant Man and other top prospects aren’t getting similar offers? Why wouldn’t they? It just doesn’t make sense for a Clemson or an LSU to offer certain guys money, miss on them, and then just settle without offering others. Sounds like college basketball recruiting is a little bit of a bidding war. Additionally, how likely is it that our magically clean program managed to pull in this guy despite tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars being offered elsewhere? Call me a rumormonger who has no evidence or whatever. In my opinion, it’s obvious that anyone in college basketball who is getting top recruits right now is paying them in some way. Disagree with me and my perspective all you want, I’m gonna end my participation in this thread moving forward because I’ve made my take clear and I’m not interested in internet fights.

    Additionally, just to speak on my “out of the blue” comment. I get that he‘s from ga but there was no precedent for this signing despite numerous other top guys coming out of ga every year. If you had asked me if we were going to sign a top overall prospect this year, I would have laughed. That makes this out of the blue imo.

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